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Coastal Carolina knocks BYU from the unbeaten ranks, 22-17.

Fun game...would be interesting to see how these teams would do vs the top of a P5 conference.

Heard an interesting take on this last Friday, saying the P5's refused multiple requests by BYU to schedule a game. These same conferences were then using the strength of schedule mantra in denying BYU a higher ranking. A moot point now, but still...

 

Other strangeness:

Ohio State goes to Big 10 Championship game, even if game against Michigan is cancelled due to Covid? I can live with that.

 

'Bama loses SEC Championship game, but stays in playoff? WTF?

 

Say stupid chit below.

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UM - OSU cancelled, making OSU ineligible for conference title game under current rules.

 

Paging Barry Alvarez, STAT!

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UM - OSU cancelled, making OSU ineligible for conference title game under current rules.

 

Paging Barry Alvarez, STAT!

 

I think I heard last weekend that the Big 10 would likely change the rules given the circumstances, and they'd be eligible anyway.

Why would it matter? I mean let's face it, the four team playoff is totally run by ESPN and any close choices are going to be based on TV ratings. Even if Ohio St. doesn't play another game, they're going to get in because ESPN wants them in. I fully expect them to trot out Kirk Herbstriet in the next couple of days to tell us all the reasons they deserve to get in anyway. (fukk him, he's nothing but a shill for ESPN, the big 10 and Ohio State)

Meanwhile, USC has a nearly identical metric including strength of schedule, margin of victory etc. and there's zero talk of them being included. (and btw, I am NOT a USC fan)

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UM - OSU cancelled, making OSU ineligible for conference title game under current rules.

 

Paging Barry Alvarez, STAT!

 

I think I heard last weekend that the Big 10 would likely change the rules given the circumstances, and they'd be eligible anyway.

Why would it matter? I mean let's face it, the four team playoff is totally run by ESPN and any close choices are going to be based on TV ratings. Even if Ohio St. doesn't play another game, they're going to get in because ESPN wants them in. I fully expect them to trot out Kirk Herbstriet in the next couple of days to tell us all the reasons they deserve to get in anyway. (fukk him, he's nothing but a shill for ESPN, the big 10 and Ohio State)

Meanwhile, USC has a nearly identical metric including strength of schedule, margin of victory etc. and there's zero talk of them being included. (and btw, I am NOT a USC fan)

I don't think there's much doubt that anOSU, who I don't like and consider the recipient of considerable favoritism in the past, especially inside the league, is one of the four best teams.

 

i would be interested in seeing the metric that has USC and anOSU as comparable, Sagarin has about a two TD difference between the two and I think the spread in Vegas would open at about anOSU -14.

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UM - OSU cancelled, making OSU ineligible for conference title game under current rules.

 

Paging Barry Alvarez, STAT!

 

I think I heard last weekend that the Big 10 would likely change the rules given the circumstances, and they'd be eligible anyway.

Why would it matter? I mean let's face it, the four team playoff is totally run by ESPN and any close choices are going to be based on TV ratings. Even if Ohio St. doesn't play another game, they're going to get in because ESPN wants them in. I fully expect them to trot out Kirk Herbstriet in the next couple of days to tell us all the reasons they deserve to get in anyway. (fukk him, he's nothing but a shill for ESPN, the big 10 and Ohio State)

Meanwhile, USC has a nearly identical metric including strength of schedule, margin of victory etc. and there's zero talk of them being included. (and btw, I am NOT a USC fan)

I don't think there's much doubt that anOSU, who I don't like and consider the recipient of considerable favoritism in the past, especially inside the league, is one of the four best teams.

 

i would be interested in seeing the metric that has USC and anOSU as comparable, Sagarin has about a two TD difference between the two and I think the spread in Vegas would open at about anOSU -14.

I saw something on TV but I also fully admit I despise Ohio St. and Herbstriet so my opinion is clouded by that. Sadly, I don't actually think USC could beat them.

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UM - OSU cancelled, making OSU ineligible for conference title game under current rules.

 

Paging Barry Alvarez, STAT!

 

I think I heard last weekend that the Big 10 would likely change the rules given the circumstances, and they'd be eligible anyway.

Why would it matter? I mean let's face it, the four team playoff is totally run by ESPN and any close choices are going to be based on TV ratings. Even if Ohio St. doesn't play another game, they're going to get in because ESPN wants them in. I fully expect them to trot out Kirk Herbstriet in the next couple of days to tell us all the reasons they deserve to get in anyway. (fukk him, he's nothing but a shill for ESPN, the big 10 and Ohio State)

Meanwhile, USC has a nearly identical metric including strength of schedule, margin of victory etc. and there's zero talk of them being included. (and btw, I am NOT a USC fan)

 

There are certain teams that the media adores and OSU is one of them.

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Washington at Oregon in football tomorrow canceled due to high Covid numbers in Husky land.

A lot of conspiracies in Duckville saying the Huskies just want to be named North champs and are afraid they'll lose to U of O.

 

Really this is UW's own fault, Their basketball program canceled their game in Spokane against Gonzaga because they supposedly didn't want to risk travel due to Covid yet funnily enough, they travelled to Las Vegas to play UC-Riverside a couple weeks ago. But hey, quality of opponent and the likelihood that they would've have gotten beat by 30+ in Spokane had nothing to do with the decision. amirite Dawgs? Obviously the University's sports teams aren't above "rearranging" their schedules to benefit themselves now are they? It's no wonder Oregon fans think they're dodging the game.

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Washington at Oregon in football tomorrow canceled due to high Covid numbers in Husky land.

A lot of conspiracies in Duckville saying the Huskies just want to be named North champs and are afraid they'll lose to U of O.

 

Really this is UW's own fault, Their basketball program canceled their game in Spokane against Gonzaga because they supposedly didn't want to risk travel due to Covid yet funnily enough, they travelled to Las Vegas to play UC-Riverside a couple weeks ago. But hey, quality of opponent and the likelihood that they would've have gotten beat by 30+ in Spokane had nothing to do with the decision. amirite Dawgs? Obviously the University's sports teams aren't above "rearranging" their schedules to benefit themselves now are they? It's no wonder Oregon fans think they're dodging the game.

 

I mean, it's certainly possible. Good news is this shouldn't be a possibility that carries into future seasons.

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As they go to break with about 5 minutes to go in the Iowa-Wisconsin game, FS1 takes it to break with the sounds of Limelight.
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As they go to break with about 5 minutes to go in the Iowa-Wisconsin game, FS1 takes it to break with the sounds of Limelight.

 

'Sconsin's lame offensive team

Approaches the unreal....

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A 5 loss LSU team beats the Gators, 37-34 on a last second FG.

 

I think you mean on a shoe throwing penalty, lol.

Also, I understand getting a field goal defense team on the field, but if I were Florida, I would never have called the timeout before LSU's game winning field goal try. They were out of timeouts, and at best the clock would have started before the snap. In this case RUSH the kicker, don't freeze him.

Makes the SEC Champ game an afterthought.

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From the "I s--t you not" department: The RoofClaim.com Boca Raton Bowl.

Brigham Young vs Central Florida, 12/22/2020. :facepalm:.

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From the "I s--t you not" department: The RoofClaim.com Boca Raton Bowl.

Brigham Young vs Central Florida, 12/22/2020. :facepalm:.

Today's South Florida Sun-Sentinel contained an "official program" for this train wreck .

 

Also, mho only:

  1. Alabama
  2. Clemson
  3. Ohio State
  4. Texas A & M.

Sorry Notre Dame, that beat down you took last night was a knockout blow.

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Just cancel the semis and go right to the championship game, or at least just take the top 3. ND and A&M can't win, or even come close to winning.
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Corrupt m***********s on the committee... go f**k yourself... and take the game you ruined with you.

This could apply to every year of the charade...but this year is beyond a joke.

 

Rename it the "Invitational".

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A writer for ESPN let's the NCAA have a piece of her mind, and they'll probably laugh at her. A pathetic joke.

 

Welcome once again to the Alabama-Clemson College Football Playoff invitational, where it hardly seems to matter who earned the "right" to take on the two clear favorites to make the national championship game.

This year, it happens to be No. 3 Ohio State and No. 4 Notre Dame. The Irish made it in over Texas A&M with what the committee called a better body of work. Ohio State only played six games, but the committee deemed that enough because it won its conference championship and had two ranked wins.

 

We can quibble over résumés and who was most worthy of facing the No. 1 Crimson Tide as a double-digit underdog, but there is no surprise in what the committee did. In fact, the decisions on the top four were so predictable, it made the entire process stale and boring and so filled with an utter lack of meaningful debate that there is no reason for outrage because we all saw the way this was going to unfold.

 

This speaks to a system that was set up to favor teams in the Power 5 conferences (and Notre Dame, of course) to keep power and money for themselves. From the beginning, the same teams in Power 5 conferences have dominated the top four. That, in turn, has watered down who actually is capable of making a playoff run. Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Oklahoma have combined to take 20 out of 28 possible spots since the playoff began in 2014.

 

If Clemson and Alabama end up meeting in the national championship, it would be their fifth playoff meeting in the past six years.

Talk about a lack of competitive balance across a sport with 130 FBS teams.

And, although Oklahoma is not in the playoff this year, the two-loss Sooners still proved their Power 5 stature Sunday when the committee jumped them four spots all the way to No. 6 in the final rankings because they just won their sixth straight Big 12 title. In the process, Oklahoma moved ahead of undefeated Cincinnati, a team that should have merited consideration but instead was deemed to have an insufficient résumé -- like every other undefeated Group of 5 team in BCS/playoff history.

 

That the committee actually says it "respects" the undefeated Group of 5 teams it is charged with evaluating smacks of so much hypocrisy you can only laugh (or cry if you are Cincinnati or Coastal Carolina or even San Jose State).

There is no respect and never has been. Look at how the committee treated undefeated UCF in 2017. The Knights, the only undefeated team that year, finished 12th overall in the final rankings behind five two-loss teams and one three-loss team. It's no wonder they declared themselves national champions. There was no way the power structure would let them prove it legitimately. The following year, after another undefeated regular-season run, UCF was ranked eighth -- but only behind two two-loss teams that time!

 

Former Boise State athletic director Gene Bleymaier saw the same system rewarding only Power 5 programs during the BCS era. He once told me, "Had we beaten Nevada in [2010], we would have had a chance, and that was under the BCS system and this was after we had gone to Congress and put a little pressure on it. Now, there's no chance, in my opinion, for a Group of 5. They can go undefeated all they want, but that committee is not going to let them in the top four. I don't see that happening, and I think that's a shame."

 

Even in a year in which a pandemic significantly altered résumés, with only two tepid options between Notre Dame and Texas A&M for the No. 4 spot, the committee refused to consider Cincinnati on its merits. Instead, Cincinnati finished No. 8 and gets to play Georgia in the Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl -- a no-win situation because, even if the Bearcats win, their critics will claim Georgia simply did not care enough. Then there is undefeated Coastal Carolina, which finished No. 12 and was bypassed for an at-large New Year's Six spot in favor of teams with multiple losses: Iowa State, Georgia and Florida.

 

Although this particular year looks especially egregious, we have become immune to this lack of consideration now, and it cannot be good for the long-term health of the sport if half the teams playing it are simply going to be disqualified from the playoff every year before the season begins.

The playoff has also had a negative effect on the competitive balance across conferences. Teams like Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State only grow stronger the more often they make the playoff, because it boosts their national profile and ability to recruit, making them perennial national title contenders. (Those three finished in the top five in the recruiting rankings on National Signing Day last week.) It then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that these are the predictable heavyweights when a new season rolls around.

 

Because so much emphasis has been placed on making the playoff, the entire bowl system around the playoff feels as if it is a consolation prize and not a reward for a season's worth of hard work and effort. Players are now skipping bowl games, a trend that won't end soon.

 

While it is true the playoff was set up to try to create more opportunities for teams to compete for a championship, expanding from two to four teams, the same old rules have been reinforced and strengthened. That has made the playoff selection process feel as if it is designed to prop up the same teams and conferences. Weekly explanations to justify rankings only fuel the rancor that accompanies the work the committee does when it gathers.

Because there is so much emphasis placed on strength of schedule, body of work, ranked wins and (to a much lesser extent) championships, it becomes unattainable for a large number of teams to even think about the top four.

 

The only way any possible expansion fixes the issues is if there are guaranteed spots for each Power 5 champion plus the highest-ranked Group of 5 team. But in years such as this, where unranked Oregon upsets previously undefeated USC, that format would also get blasted.

We have seen this four-team playoff in action for seven years now, and it has never been more predictable. That is a shame not only for the teams that deserve more consideration or inclusion, but for the sport itself.

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A writer for ESPN let's the NCAA have a piece of her mind, and they'll probably laugh at her. A pathetic joke.

Interesting considering ESPN is the one running the whole thing. Notre Dame brings ratings, ratings bring $. That's why they're in. Same reason Ohio $t. is in after only playing 6 games.

They probably told her to write it to pretend they're not the puppet masters behind the curtain.

 

I know I only quoted the first sentence of your post Fordgalaxy, but should say it's a fantastic post you made in it's entirety.

 

I do not watch any of the playoff games myself. I absolutely refuse to give them my ratings for reasons you well outlined.

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Carson Strong 22/28 with 5 TDs as Nevada rolls Tulane in Idaho. A real statement by the Wolf Pack after being snubbed by the championship committee.

 

 

 

 

:P

Cincinnati doesn't think your post is funny..............hold on I got a call coming in..........Coastal Carolina just said they think you're a dick. But hey my man, I found it quite amusing. :laughing guy:

And btw, I watched a good portion of it and was of course rooting for the western team, UN.

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