Which is truly the worst, weakest most worthless RUSH album of all?

[RUSHHEAD666]

I'm surprised T4E only had one vote so far.

 

Me too.

What did you think of Moving Pictures, AFTK and :rush: getting a vote in this poll??

 

I understand the first RUSH record. Perhaps some Rush fans can't stand that record because there is no Neil. Too raw? Too Zep? I love the record.

Moving Pictures? I don't get it, but perhaps the Rush fan thinks that is their most commercial album made. OVERPLAYED! LOL! That's for you Pat.

A Farewell To Kings boggles my mind!!! Perhaps the fan is sick of "Closer To The Heart" and the weak track "Madrigal?"

 

I know AFTK is your favorite Duck. What the Fuckk?

I don't get it either. I don't get any of them. No way is Presto or Shakes & Arrows or T4E better than any of those three albums and I don't care what excuse they have.

 

I agree!!

[RUSHHEAD666]

The answer is definitely RTB by the way. Not worthless, but nothing I would say is wholeheartedly great, plus a bonus of a side two along through such annoying numbers as Heresy, Neurotica, and You Bet Your Life. Ghost Of A Chance isn't even that good either.

 

Dreamline is great, and Bravado is incredibly great.

There's a reason the boys put those two as tracks 1 and 2.

 

I like most all the songs in the first half. As much as I rag on the album as a whole it's still Rush and I still find a lot to like. Bravado took until Neil's passing t grow on me, as I never understood the wording of the chorus (I don't know how, it's pretty simple actually) and that added to Geddy's scratchy vocals in the first verse just made it not work for me for a long time. Where's My Thing and the title track I really enjoy, but I do think the production keeps them away from "great" status for me. Dreamline comes close as well, but again with the production sapping a lot of life out of it (and it's a bit of a rehash or DEW with fewer synths...). Face Up is also fun but clearly not great. Once we get to the second half things fall right off of a cliff.

 

This is why my drumming brain thinks different. I LOVE "FACE UP!" Neil's drumming is frigging incredible. That drum intro KICKS ASS!!!!

 

I LOVE "ROLL THE BONES!"

 

"Bravado" is so fun to play along to! "Ghost Of A Chance" was my wedding song!!!!! A beautiful song. Alex is incredible on that tune!!!!!

 

Just get rid of the rap part on "Roll The Bones."

[goose]

As the resident Presto defender...

...Imma tell some of you where you can stick it.

 

Yes, it's pop-rock contemporary 90s sound.

Yes, it needs more bass.

 

BUT

 

The songwriting was tight as hell and Ged's chest voice was good.

They keys were balanced, for once, with Alex's guitar.

A few of the songs are not just above average, but excellent.

Show Don't Tell (which belongs on MP, if you listen closely), The Pass, Presto, Available Light.

Personally, I really enjoy Scars and Hand Over Fist too, but most don't.

 

That is all.

 

(withdraws pointed index finger, steps down off soapbox)

I dig Presto.

 

Same. What doesn't work about Roll The Bones works quite well on Presto. Snappy, energetic tunes to match the poppy, elastic production.

Tupperware production.

He wasn't using the DW drums on that album. :P

[RUSHHEAD666]

As the resident Presto defender...

...Imma tell some of you where you can stick it.

 

Yes, it's pop-rock contemporary 90s sound.

Yes, it needs more bass.

 

BUT

 

The songwriting was tight as hell and Ged's chest voice was good.

They keys were balanced, for once, with Alex's guitar.

A few of the songs are not just above average, but excellent.

Show Don't Tell (which belongs on MP, if you listen closely), The Pass, Presto, Available Light.

Personally, I really enjoy Scars and Hand Over Fist too, but most don't.

 

That is all.

 

(withdraws pointed index finger, steps down off soapbox)

I dig Presto.

 

Same. What doesn't work about Roll The Bones works quite well on Presto. Snappy, energetic tunes to match the poppy, elastic production.

Tupperware production.

He wasn't using the DW drums on that album. :P

 

Hahaha! I love the Tama and Ludwig sound the best!!!

[invisible airwave]

Is bathory the local troll on this forum, or what?

 

Yes. He is, however, occasionally hilarious when not being tiresome. There are others that are worse, mostly in SOCN.

 

He's no Bugsy. ;)

[invisible airwave]

As the resident Presto defender...

...Imma tell some of you where you can stick it.

 

Yes, it's pop-rock contemporary 90s sound.

Yes, it needs more bass.

 

BUT

 

The songwriting was tight as hell and Ged's chest voice was good.

They keys were balanced, for once, with Alex's guitar.

A few of the songs are not just above average, but excellent.

Show Don't Tell (which belongs on MP, if you listen closely), The Pass, Presto, Available Light.

Personally, I really enjoy Scars and Hand Over Fist too, but most don't.

 

That is all.

 

(withdraws pointed index finger, steps down off oapbox)

 

[bathory]

honestly, the goofy/disjointed pseudo-prog of AFTK is part of its charm, and every song on it is better than anything after the 80s. hemispheres perfects the formula though

 

I think cygnus x-1 is the closest they came to actual dissonance, which is, in a sea of styx and journey shit, very progressive. and tool obviously ripped it off

I don`t want dissonance and goofy and disjointed though, I can do that with my own guitar :(

 

yeah, except you'd sound like shit and probably still end up writing a whitesnake song

[GeddysMullet]

None, because even if the album stinks, it has at least one song on it that was worth its production.

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I love this answer. It stops me having to sit down and figure out which Rush albums I actively dislike vs which ones I don't really care about one way or the other. Who has time for that?

 

[Lorraine]

Just popping in to make sure I don't need to use my Ambassador card.

Looks like I don't. Yay :)

 

And you're a faithful one too. :)

 

I'm going to find that thread and resurrect it. The good old days on TRF.

yeah! We need to find out which ambassadors are still around

There's the two of us. Maybe a few others. If you find the old thread, pm me the link, or pull the thread back up.

[invisible airwave]

honestly, the goofy/disjointed pseudo-prog of AFTK is part of its charm, and every song on it is better than anything after the 80s. hemispheres perfects the formula though

 

I think cygnus x-1 is the closest they came to actual dissonance, which is, in a sea of styx and journey shit, very progressive. and tool obviously ripped it off

I don`t want dissonance and goofy and disjointed though, I can do that with my own guitar :(

 

yeah, except you'd sound like shit and probably still end up writing a whitesnake song

 

There you go again on your own.

[Lorraine]

Hey Bathory, he called you an idiot! :o

[Lorraine]

I swear people only dislike S&A because of the vocals... better vocals than the other 2000s albums

Is that really why people hate hate Snakes so much? I had no idea

 

I love "Snakes." 'We Hold On" is incredible. Wish they played that one live.

 

I love "Roll The Bones." "Test For Echo" and "Vapor Trails" are my top two stinkers.

 

Snakes isn't that bad of an album. It has several good songs on it, "We Hold On" being one of them.

[treeduck]

None, because even if the album stinks, it has at least one song on it that was worth its production.

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I love this answer. It stops me having to sit down and figure out which Rush albums I actively dislike vs which ones I don't really care about one way or the other. Who has time for that?

Geddy Lee, check out the Geddy Lee ranks the RUSH albums thread.

[Lorraine]

None, because even if the album stinks, it has at least one song on it that was worth its production.

 

That's a great point Lorraine. I can't stand "Vapor Trails" but I love "Secret Touch."

 

Ooooo, Earl, me too. Secret Touch is the song that makes Vapor Trails worthwhile.

[treeduck]

I swear people only dislike S&A because of the vocals... better vocals than the other 2000s albums

Is that really why people hate hate Snakes so much? I had no idea

 

I love "Snakes." 'We Hold On" is incredible. Wish they played that one live.

 

I love "Roll The Bones." "Test For Echo" and "Vapor Trails" are my top two stinkers.

 

Snakes isn't that bad of an album. It has several good songs on it, "We Hold On" being one of them.

That's one of the really bad songs!

[_hi_water._]

I swear people only dislike S&A because of the vocals... better vocals than the other 2000s albums

Is that really why people hate hate Snakes so much? I had no idea

 

I love "Snakes." 'We Hold On" is incredible. Wish they played that one live.

 

I love "Roll The Bones." "Test For Echo" and "Vapor Trails" are my top two stinkers.

 

Snakes isn't that bad of an album. It has several good songs on it, "We Hold On" being one of them.

WHO is an underrated gem for sure.

[_hi_water._]

I swear people only dislike S&A because of the vocals... better vocals than the other 2000s albums

Is that really why people hate hate Snakes so much? I had no idea

 

I love "Snakes." 'We Hold On" is incredible. Wish they played that one live.

 

I love "Roll The Bones." "Test For Echo" and "Vapor Trails" are my top two stinkers.

 

Snakes isn't that bad of an album. It has several good songs on it, "We Hold On" being one of them.

That's one of the really bad songs!

treeduck when was the last you heard that one?

[Lorraine]

I'm surprised T4E only had one vote so far.

What's wrong with the album? It has quite a few good songs on it.

[Lorraine]

I swear people only dislike S&A because of the vocals... better vocals than the other 2000s albums

Is that really why people hate hate Snakes so much? I had no idea

 

I love "Snakes." 'We Hold On" is incredible. Wish they played that one live.

 

I love "Roll The Bones." "Test For Echo" and "Vapor Trails" are my top two stinkers.

 

Snakes isn't that bad of an album. It has several good songs on it, "We Hold On" being one of them.

That's one of the really bad songs!

 

Says who?

[treeduck]

I'm surprised T4E only had one vote so far.

What's wrong with the album? It has quite a few good songs on it.

There's lots of other better albums though.

[treeduck]

I swear people only dislike S&A because of the vocals... better vocals than the other 2000s albums

Is that really why people hate hate Snakes so much? I had no idea

 

I love "Snakes." 'We Hold On" is incredible. Wish they played that one live.

 

I love "Roll The Bones." "Test For Echo" and "Vapor Trails" are my top two stinkers.

 

Snakes isn't that bad of an album. It has several good songs on it, "We Hold On" being one of them.

That's one of the really bad songs!

 

Says who?

Me, but we can put it to the test if you like? Select a "bad" song, in your opinion, and we'll do a poll.

[Lorraine]

I'm surprised T4E only had one vote so far.

What's wrong with the album? It has quite a few good songs on it.

There's lots of other better albums though.

Says who?

[treeduck]

I swear people only dislike S&A because of the vocals... better vocals than the other 2000s albums

Is that really why people hate hate Snakes so much? I had no idea

 

I love "Snakes." 'We Hold On" is incredible. Wish they played that one live.

 

I love "Roll The Bones." "Test For Echo" and "Vapor Trails" are my top two stinkers.

 

Snakes isn't that bad of an album. It has several good songs on it, "We Hold On" being one of them.

That's one of the really bad songs!

treeduck when was the last you heard that one?

A few months ago.

[Lorraine]

I swear people only dislike S&A because of the vocals... better vocals than the other 2000s albums

Is that really why people hate hate Snakes so much? I had no idea

 

I love "Snakes." 'We Hold On" is incredible. Wish they played that one live.

 

I love "Roll The Bones." "Test For Echo" and "Vapor Trails" are my top two stinkers.

 

Snakes isn't that bad of an album. It has several good songs on it, "We Hold On" being one of them.

That's one of the really bad songs!

 

Says who?

Me, but we can put it to the test if you like? Select a "bad" song, in your opinion, and we'll do a poll.

Who cares what a poll says? I like the song.

[treeduck]

I'm surprised T4E only had one vote so far.

What's wrong with the album? It has quite a few good songs on it.

There's lots of other better albums though.

Says who?

We can do a poll so you can see just who says if you like.