JohnnyBlaze Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Please let me know if this story sounds familiar. Neil wrote about it somewhere, or it was in an article about him, decades ago. I'm mostly over the embarrassment of it now. It was during Power Windows tour, 1986. About 2-3 days after my first Rush concert, I unknowingly met Neil Peart. Though the most die-hard fan I knew at the time, I did not recognize him! He mentioned he was with Rush, and I concluded he meant with their road crew. We spoke about 20 minutes, and he dropped about 10 hints, all of which I missed. To be continued after charging my phone... Very cool. Did you get a cell phone picture together or an autograph?It was 1986, so I had no cell phone. I didn't get an autograph because I didn't realize it was Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. Edited July 17, 2020 by Dear Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Please let me know if this story sounds familiar. Neil wrote about it somewhere, or it was in an article about him, decades ago. I'm mostly over the embarrassment of it now. It was during Power Windows tour, 1986. About 2-3 days after my first Rush concert, I unknowingly met Neil Peart. Though the most die-hard fan I knew at the time, I did not recognize him! He mentioned he was with Rush, and I concluded he meant with their road crew. We spoke about 20 minutes, and he dropped about 10 hints, all of which I missed. To be continued after charging my phone... Very cool. Did you get a cell phone picture together or an autograph?It was 1986, so I had no cell phone. I didn't get an autograph because I didn't realize it was Neil. It's too bad you didn't think to take a picture with him. It would be awesome to have that, especially now. Oh, well. At least you got to meet him. That's still great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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goose Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Please let me know if this story sounds familiar. Neil wrote about it somewhere, or it was in an article about him, decades ago. I'm mostly over the embarrassment of it now. It was during Power Windows tour, 1986. About 2-3 days after my first Rush concert, I unknowingly met Neil Peart. Though the most die-hard fan I knew at the time, I did not recognize him! He mentioned he was with Rush, and I concluded he meant with their road crew. We spoke about 20 minutes, and he dropped about 10 hints, all of which I missed. To be continued after charging my phone... Very cool. Did you get a cell phone picture together...?"Mr. Peart, can I take a picture...?" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Please let me know if this story sounds familiar. Neil wrote about it somewhere, or it was in an article about him, decades ago. I'm mostly over the embarrassment of it now. It was during Power Windows tour, 1986. About 2-3 days after my first Rush concert, I unknowingly met Neil Peart. Though the most die-hard fan I knew at the time, I did not recognize him! He mentioned he was with Rush, and I concluded he meant with their road crew. We spoke about 20 minutes, and he dropped about 10 hints, all of which I missed. To be continued after charging my phone... Very cool. Did you get a cell phone picture together or an autograph?It was 1986, so I had no cell phone. I didn't get an autograph because I didn't realize it was Neil. It's too bad you didn't think to take a picture with him. It would be awesome to have that, especially now. Oh, well. At least you got to meet him. That's still great.I agree. It's crazy, but I did not realize it was truly Neil until many years later. I felt sick when I realized it but console myself by realizing it enabled a normal conversation, instead of his wanting to hide from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) Please let me know if this story sounds familiar. Neil wrote about it somewhere, or it was in an article about him, decades ago. I'm mostly over the embarrassment of it now. It was during Power Windows tour, 1986. About 2-3 days after my first Rush concert, I unknowingly met Neil Peart. Though the most die-hard fan I knew at the time, I did not recognize him! He mentioned he was with Rush, and I concluded he meant with their road crew. We spoke about 20 minutes, and he dropped about 10 hints, all of which I missed. To be continued after charging my phone... Very cool. Did you get a cell phone picture together...?"Mr. Peart, can I take a picture...?" Haha! That looks a lot like the one my dad had around that time, except his was gray and about 3x bigger. He often had to be on top of a hill for the call to come through clearly. I think there was a button that said "Send" instead of the icons. Edited July 17, 2020 by Dear Sir 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 http://www.2112.net/...050400bmwon.htm This part jumped out to me:"I have long underwear." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) For those who believe my story is true, here is a funny part that I think provides some insight into Neil's personality. While I was hanging out at the gas station, I stepped outside at one point. The tall guy (Neil) was there smoking and looking up at the dark clouds. He then turned to me with a serious expression and said, "This is my area. You go find your own area." A bit stunned, I stepped back inside. A moment later he came in and somewhat quietly said, "Hey, I was just joking. You can go anywhere you want." Looking back, I think he felt bad because of my reaction. I now find it humorous and admire that he was concerned enough about my reaction to say something. Edited July 17, 2020 by Dear Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Please let me know if this story sounds familiar. Neil wrote about it somewhere, or it was in an article about him, decades ago. I'm mostly over the embarrassment of it now. It was during Power Windows tour, 1986. About 2-3 days after my first Rush concert, I unknowingly met Neil Peart. Though the most die-hard fan I knew at the time, I did not recognize him! He mentioned he was with Rush, and I concluded he meant with their road crew. We spoke about 20 minutes, and he dropped about 10 hints, all of which I missed. To be continued after charging my phone... Very cool. Did you get a cell phone picture together or an autograph?It was 1986, so I had no cell phone. I didn't get an autograph because I didn't realize it was Neil. It's too bad you didn't think to take a picture with him. It would be awesome to have that, especially now. Oh, well. At least you got to meet him. That's still great.I agree. It's crazy, but I did not realize it was truly Neil until many years later. I felt sick when I realized it but console myself by realizing it enabled a normal conversation, instead of his wanting to hide from me. Probably. I still think you should have taken the picture, but as long as you have the memory that's enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. I call that progress. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 Please let me know if this story sounds familiar. Neil wrote about it somewhere, or it was in an article about him, decades ago. I'm mostly over the embarrassment of it now. It was during Power Windows tour, 1986. About 2-3 days after my first Rush concert, I unknowingly met Neil Peart. Though the most die-hard fan I knew at the time, I did not recognize him! He mentioned he was with Rush, and I concluded he meant with their road crew. We spoke about 20 minutes, and he dropped about 10 hints, all of which I missed. To be continued after charging my phone... Very cool. Did you get a cell phone picture together or an autograph?It was 1986, so I had no cell phone. I didn't get an autograph because I didn't realize it was Neil. It's too bad you didn't think to take a picture with him. It would be awesome to have that, especially now. Oh, well. At least you got to meet him. That's still great.I agree. It's crazy, but I did not realize it was truly Neil until many years later. I felt sick when I realized it but console myself by realizing it enabled a normal conversation, instead of his wanting to hide from me. Probably. I still think you should have taken the picture, but as long as you have the memory that's enough.That's probably a healthy way to look at it (enjoy the memory). Funny, in those days, I didn't even own a camera. When I told my son about meeting Neil and not recognizing him, I had to explain that I had seen Neil only in a couple concert videos or on Mtv. I had never heard him speak, except for short parts on a few songs. My son struggled to grasp the lack of instant information back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. I call that progress. ;)Hmm. You might have misinterpreted my meaning. The doubt is about it being the only day he rode a cycle before the 90s. Total guess, but he possibly rode occasionally for years. He certainly was riding the day I met him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. I call that progress. ;)Hmm. You might have misinterpreted my meaning. The doubt is about it being the only day he rode a cycle before the 90s. Total guess, but he possibly rode occasionally for years. He certainly was riding the day I met him. When he started to ride bikes aside, how can you be “certain” especially when you didn’t think it was even him until YEARS later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddysMullet Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. I call that progress. ;)Hmm. You might have misinterpreted my meaning. The doubt is about it being the only day he rode a cycle before the 90s. Total guess, but he possibly rode occasionally for years. He certainly was riding the day I met him. When he started to ride bikes aside, how can you be “certain” especially when you didn’t think it was even him until YEARS later? Because it serves the narrative! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. I call that progress. ;)Hmm. You might have misinterpreted my meaning. The doubt is about it being the only day he rode a cycle before the 90s. Total guess, but he possibly rode occasionally for years. He certainly was riding the day I met him. When he started to ride bikes aside, how can you be “certain” especially when you didn’t think it was even him until YEARS later? Because it serves the narrative! And why is the phone suddenly full of charge?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Digital Man Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Does anyone on here other than the poster actually believe this was Neil considering all the facts? C'mon lets just agree you were mistaken and all move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. I call that progress. ;)Hmm. You might have misinterpreted my meaning. The doubt is about it being the only day he rode a cycle before the 90s. Total guess, but he possibly rode occasionally for years. He certainly was riding the day I met him. When he started to ride bikes aside, how can you be “certain” especially when you didn’t think it was even him until YEARS later?Because I know details of the experience that erase any doubt. When I share them here, some people think I'm fabricating them. I've forgotten the book, but the quote, "The lady doth protest much" applies. The more I attempt to prove the validity of the story, the more suspicious I sound, at least to some. Consider this: I told my best friend from school all of it. Because I B.S. a lot, I prefaced it so he knew I was sincere. He knows I am painfully honest and would not lie beyond a 1-minute prank or something. When I finished telling him, he was stunned and said, "WTF? Do you have shit for brains?!" and asked how I possibly could have missed all of the clues, etc. I'm telling you, Johnny, the story is true. If you were sitting across from me, you'd know my sincerity. My wife would vouch for my honesty and character (and hotness that exists in a dimension that only she and I can perceive). You would have to choose whether I was deluded or mistaken. But I could tell you a couple more details that would likely eliminate your doubt. Edited July 18, 2020 by Dear Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. I call that progress. ;)Hmm. You might have misinterpreted my meaning. The doubt is about it being the only day he rode a cycle before the 90s. Total guess, but he possibly rode occasionally for years. He certainly was riding the day I met him. When he started to ride bikes aside, how can you be “certain” especially when you didn’t think it was even him until YEARS later? Because it serves the narrative! And why is the phone suddenly full of charge?!!!I hooked it up to a car battery. Heavy and exhausting to carry, but now I'm ready to post 24/7, or more accurately, when my wife gives me permission to stop painting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 So Neils very first motorcycle, a BMW1100RS was a present from his wife Jackie in December 1993, he didn't pass his test until the following year. He was still cycling around Africa in 1988! Hope this clears things up!Those facts don't change the truth of my story.But they do, can you just cofirm again what year this happened please?I am aware of the apparent date discrepancy. He said he bought his first bike in 1996. I saw him in March 1986. No chance it was another decade because I moved from the area the same year. He was driving a BMW motorcycle. Maybe he rented it or was borrowing one for the trip. It was during a short break on the Power Windows tour. I think it was the first tour they ever intentionally incorporated short breaks. I think Lifeson said it was the first tour that was fun.So you obviously didn't read my earlier post, or ignored it, Neil got his very first motorcycle in December 1993, a present from his wife, he didn't have a motorcycle licence at that time and took a riding course and passed his test in 1994! So you are very mistaken, it wasn't Neil, sorry!Your conclusion rests on several assumptions. And I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Edit: I did read your earlier post. It's from an article I read a couple months ago, possibly from the Cygnus site. I don't understand how you can still believe you actually met Neil on a motorcycle 12 years before he was riding one, maybe he stole it, yeah right!Either I'm lying, deluded, or telling the truth. Whatever you decide makes no difference to me. “Deluded” seems a bit strong. I’d go with, as I said earlier, “honestly mistaken”. Not sure how much more proof you want when Peart himself is quoted as saying he didn’t get his license and start riding until the 90s. Was Neil mistaken about his own license? Was he secretly riding bikes in the 80s and didn’t want anyone to know?He definitely rode one in March 1986, apparently without a license. OkThank you for extending the benefit of doubt. I have nothing to gain by making up the story. Edit: Not splitting hairs, but I think his regular riding began in 1996. That is when it became a routine part of the tours. Maybe I saw him on the only day he rode before that, but I doubt it. I call that progress. ;)Hmm. You might have misinterpreted my meaning. The doubt is about it being the only day he rode a cycle before the 90s. Total guess, but he possibly rode occasionally for years. He certainly was riding the day I met him. When he started to ride bikes aside, how can you be “certain” especially when you didn’t think it was even him until YEARS later? Because it serves the narrative!There's no narrative, man. Just facts. The real question is: Did Neil ever ride a BMW cycle between shows before the 90s? Is there any chance he rented one, borrowed one during days off between shows? Having typed that, I think it's highly likely he rented some form of personal transportation when he had a few days off. Power Windows was the first tour that included intentional breaks so they could enjoy the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Sir Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 And I met him on the third day of their break before the show in Michigan. He was anxious to get on the road but was avoiding a storm. It's not that difficult to believe, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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