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The media seem to be hyping up this "surge" in new cases in the US, but I keep looking at the figures and I'm not seeing it. Deaths are down to around 300, not good but better than 2000+ in April and May.

 

There is a surge in the southern states right now. But up in the northern part of the states where I live our cases have gone down steadily over the last two months. It looks like it's just spread south now and they're having to deal with what we had here a few months ago when things got pretty serious in some regions.

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The media seem to be hyping up this "surge" in new cases in the US, but I keep looking at the figures and I'm not seeing it. Deaths are down to around 300, not good but better than 2000+ in April and May.

 

There is a surge in the southern states right now. But up in the northern part of the states where I live our cases have gone down steadily over the last two months. It looks like it's just spread south now and they're having to deal with what we had here a few months ago when things got pretty serious in some regions.

It's not just the South. Oregon and Washington are on the upswing too.

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The media seem to be hyping up this "surge" in new cases in the US, but I keep looking at the figures and I'm not seeing it. Deaths are down to around 300, not good but better than 2000+ in April and May.

 

There is a surge in the southern states right now. But up in the northern part of the states where I live our cases have gone down steadily over the last two months. It looks like it's just spread south now and they're having to deal with what we had here a few months ago when things got pretty serious in some regions.

It's not just the South. Oregon and Washington are on the upswing too.

I'm getting tired of the "record number of cases" headlines. As the virus moves through the population, the number of cases will obviously continue to grow. The key number, as Treeduck points out, is deaths. In Oregon, there have been 8937 confirmed cases and 210 deaths. It's important to remember that if you're non-symptomatic, you likely won't get tested. In fact, my mother-in-law, who lives in Washington, was exposed to a COVID-positive woman, and we asked her to get tested. Because my MOL was non-symptomatic, they said they would not test her. She is 83yo with underlying conditions, the highest risk group, and still she could not be tested unless symptomatic.
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The media seem to be hyping up this "surge" in new cases in the US, but I keep looking at the figures and I'm not seeing it. Deaths are down to around 300, not good but better than 2000+ in April and May.

 

There is a surge in the southern states right now. But up in the northern part of the states where I live our cases have gone down steadily over the last two months. It looks like it's just spread south now and they're having to deal with what we had here a few months ago when things got pretty serious in some regions.

It's not just the South. Oregon and Washington are on the upswing too.

I'm getting tired of the "record number of cases" headlines. As the virus moves through the population, the number of cases will obviously continue to grow. The key number, as Treeduck points out, is deaths. In Oregon, there have been 8937 confirmed cases and 210 deaths. It's important to remember that if you're non-symptomatic, you likely won't get tested. In fact, my mother-in-law, who lives in Washington, was exposed to a COVID-positive woman, and we asked her to get tested. Because my MOL was non-symptomatic, they said they would not test her. She is 83yo with underlying conditions, the highest risk group, and still she could not be tested unless symptomatic.

Deaths are definitely a key number, but speak to medical professionals who are following this and the lingering effects on those who had it won't be fully realized for years. Even young people are showing scarring on their lungs.

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The media seem to be hyping up this "surge" in new cases in the US, but I keep looking at the figures and I'm not seeing it. Deaths are down to around 300, not good but better than 2000+ in April and May.

 

There is a surge in the southern states right now. But up in the northern part of the states where I live our cases have gone down steadily over the last two months. It looks like it's just spread south now and they're having to deal with what we had here a few months ago when things got pretty serious in some regions.

It's not just the South. Oregon and Washington are on the upswing too.

I'm getting tired of the "record number of cases" headlines. As the virus moves through the population, the number of cases will obviously continue to grow. The key number, as Treeduck points out, is deaths. In Oregon, there have been 8937 confirmed cases and 210 deaths. It's important to remember that if you're non-symptomatic, you likely won't get tested. In fact, my mother-in-law, who lives in Washington, was exposed to a COVID-positive woman, and we asked her to get tested. Because my MOL was non-symptomatic, they said they would not test her. She is 83yo with underlying conditions, the highest risk group, and still she could not be tested unless symptomatic.

Which is just ignorant. If you know you were exposed, they should test you. I'd probably be willing to pay for it out of my own pocket but not everyone can do that.

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This thread has gone quiet

 

That's because I think everyone is over it now.

 

I did read a report that their is a spike in positive tests among people in their 20s and 30s. I guess with places opening back up around my state that was bound to happen. One of the reasons they gave for the spike is people traveling. Um, all the big destinations are still closed. Where are these people traveling to and from?

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This thread has gone quiet

 

That's because I think everyone is over it now.

 

I did read a report that their is a spike in positive tests among people in their 20s and 30s. I guess with places opening back up around my state that was bound to happen. One of the reasons they gave for the spike is people traveling. Um, all the big destinations are still closed. Where are these people traveling to and from?

From big cities to outlying areas. RV sales are through the roof, as the COVID caravan makes its way through America's small towns and campgrounds. :dweez:
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Hmmmm we must be getting fake news outside of the USA. I am actually worried about my fellow Rush fans from down south.

Loads of cases, relatively few deaths in mostly the same predictable demographic of advanced age with underlying conditions.
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I have just been experiencing a lil bit of coughing and a lil bit of a stuffy nose...

 

:eh:

 

Hope you are ok! Check your temperature, keep washing your hands and try to wear a mask if you are going to be close to others. . .

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Hmmmm we must be getting fake news outside of the USA. I am actually worried about my fellow Rush fans from down south.

Loads of cases, relatively few deaths in mostly the same predictable demographic of advanced age with underlying conditions.

 

But what about the younger people who are getting the virus and are having long term effects from it? It's not a given that you get it you get over it no problem. There have been reports of blood clotting and strokes in people in their 30s and 40s. Young children are developing rashes and other symptoms in a syndrome that is being linked to the coronavirus. There is also evidence of brain trauma that occurs to some. Most of the deaths are still in the over 55 age bracket but now there are too many younger folks getting it, my state just had a high school football player die from it, there is still a lot of reasons to be concerned.

 

"It's a false narrative to take comfort in a lower rate of death," Fauci said Tuesday during a livestreamed press conference hosted by Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.) "There's so many other things that are very dangerous and bad about this virus, don't get yourself into a false complacency," he said.

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Hmmmm we must be getting fake news outside of the USA. I am actually worried about my fellow Rush fans from down south.

Loads of cases, relatively few deaths in mostly the same predictable demographic of advanced age with underlying conditions.

 

But what about the younger people who are getting the virus and are having long term effects from it? It's not a given that you get it you get over it no problem. There have been reports of blood clotting and strokes in people in their 30s and 40s. Young children are developing rashes and other symptoms in a syndrome that is being linked to the coronavirus. There is also evidence of brain trauma that occurs to some. Most of the deaths are still in the over 55 age bracket but now there are too many younger folks getting it, my state just had a high school football player die from it, there is still a lot of reasons to be concerned.

 

"It's a false narrative to take comfort in a lower rate of death," Fauci said Tuesday during a livestreamed press conference hosted by Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.) "There's so many other things that are very dangerous and bad about this virus, don't get yourself into a false complacency," he said.

I think there are plenty of options between complacency and hysteria.
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I don't think anyone is being hysteric when they talk about long term effects. This virus is not like previous viruses. There is all sorts of medical evidence to that affect. I worry that there is way too much complacency.
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I don't think anyone is being hysteric when they talk about long term effects. This virus is not like previous viruses. There is all sorts of medical evidence to that affect. I worry that there is way too much complacency.

 

We have a longtime family friend in Florida who still believes the pandemic has all been concocted by the Democrats to discredit Trump. Florida of all places. So the news I saw here in Osaka last night which reported the numbers specifically in Tokyo was fake and all done by U.S. Democrats?! Oh nevermind, you said “complacency”, not “stupidity”. :P

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I don't think anyone is being hysteric when they talk about long term effects. This virus is not like previous viruses. There is all sorts of medical evidence to that affect. I worry that there is way too much complacency.

 

Unless I'm mistaken, this virus is routinely called a "novel" coronavirus because it's "not like previous viruses." Are you saying there is all sorts of medical evidence to the effect that it's novel, or to the effect that it causes long term damage? If the former, that's what I've heard too. If the latter, how could we have reliable medical evidence about the long term effects of something that's been around anywhere from 6 to 9 months?

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Wow, the school in Pennsylvania where my husband teaches has reversed course due to recent pandemic numbers and will be having all classes held totally remotely for fall. Can you really learn chemistry without any labs where you have hands on time and more importantly get to make weird compounds?

 

Time to finally get a good office chair for him (and look into cat repellents, lol. Our cat LOVES his keyboard! :P :P )

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Wow, the school in Pennsylvania where my husband teaches has reversed course due to recent pandemic numbers and will be having all classes held totally remotely for fall. Can you really learn chemistry without any labs where you have hands on time and more importantly get to make weird compounds?

 

Time to finally get a good office chair for him (and look into cat repellents, lol. Our cat LOVES his keyboard! :P :P )

I hear you. I have a daughter in med school doing all on line and a son in engineering who will be on line in the Fall. I hope we don't end up with a whole cohort of professionals who are not at the required level for their professions. I do know that Universities are investing a lot in on-line education and saying that there will be no loss of quality education.
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Wow, the school in Pennsylvania where my husband teaches has reversed course due to recent pandemic numbers and will be having all classes held totally remotely for fall. Can you really learn chemistry without any labs where you have hands on time and more importantly get to make weird compounds?

 

Time to finally get a good office chair for him (and look into cat repellents, lol. Our cat LOVES his keyboard! :P :P )

I hear you. I have a daughter in med school doing all on line and a son in engineering who will be on line in the Fall. I hope we don't end up with a whole cohort of professionals who are not at the required level for their professions. I do know that Universities are investing a lot in on-line education and saying that there will be no loss of quality education.

I am wondering about the cost of tuition in relation to the product you are getting.
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I do know that Universities are investing a lot in on-line education and saying that there will be no loss of quality education.

 

That "saying" part is the key. My college has also decided to do "virtual" (teaching to/learning from a camera) and online only, and it's really quite distressing how quick to sell out quality classroom instruction they've been. Years now of ed data show that for a particular kind of student, in a particular kind of class, online learning can be just as effective (nothing has ever shown "more effective") as in-seat, but most students are not in that boat, and many classes are not that elastic (like Chemistry, for example!).

 

As a potential patient of doctors or nurses (our nursing classes have also moved online) who did much of their degree remotely, I'm nervous about loss of quality.

 

We had a distancing and sanitation plan ready to go, but have abandoned it. I'm sure that the fee structure for online courses (higher) is just a coincidence.

 

C'mon, vaccine! (hopefully developed by people who learned in actual labs)

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Wow, the school in Pennsylvania where my husband teaches has reversed course due to recent pandemic numbers and will be having all classes held totally remotely for fall. Can you really learn chemistry without any labs where you have hands on time and more importantly get to make weird compounds?

 

Time to finally get a good office chair for him (and look into cat repellents, lol. Our cat LOVES his keyboard! :P :P )

I hear you. I have a daughter in med school doing all on line and a son in engineering who will be on line in the Fall. I hope we don't end up with a whole cohort of professionals who are not at the required level for their professions. I do know that Universities are investing a lot in on-line education and saying that there will be no loss of quality education.

I am wondering about the cost of tuition in relation to the product you are getting.

Oh absolutely no discounts my friend. Do you realize the investment they are making to get the on-line up to par. Seriously, both schools have informed us with regards to tuition, nothing has changed. That is one of the only things left in the world unchanged by the pandemic! Edited by Syrinx
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