JohnnyBlaze Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Finn said a few times that he wanted to tell Rey something. But he never did. Or did I miss that somehow? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 Finn said a few times that he wanted to tell Rey something. But he never did. Or did I miss that somehow? That did seem to fall by the wayside. According to this, which cites Abrams, it was that he was force-sensitive. That makes sense. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-finn-rey-love-john-boyega-jj-abrams-a9260436.html%3famp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Finn said a few times that he wanted to tell Rey something. But he never did. Or did I miss that somehow?That did seem to fall by the wayside. According to this, which cites Abrams, it was that he was force-sensitive. That makes sense. Why would he have to tell her? She would already know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Finn said a few times that he wanted to tell Rey something. But he never did. Or did I miss that somehow?That did seem to fall by the wayside. According to this, which cites Abrams, it was that he was force-sensitive. That makes sense. Why would he have to tell her? She would already know. Come one...set reason aside and suspend disbelief! ;) Probably why they didn't follow up on it. They could do more of that, imo. Less direct exposition (i.e. explaining out loud) makes for better stories/films. Edited December 29, 2019 by goose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Han Solo Ghost shot first. LOL! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Finn said a few times that he wanted to tell Rey something. But he never did. Or did I miss that somehow?That did seem to fall by the wayside. According to this, which cites Abrams, it was that he was force-sensitive. That makes sense. Why would he have to tell her? She would already know. Come one...set reason aside and suspend disbelief! ;) Probably why they didn't follow up on it. They could do more of that, imo. Less direct exposition (i.e. explaining out loud) makes for better stories/films. General Hux: I'm the spy. [He should have looked right at the audience when saying that] :D 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Finn said a few times that he wanted to tell Rey something. But he never did. Or did I miss that somehow?That did seem to fall by the wayside. According to this, which cites Abrams, it was that he was force-sensitive. That makes sense. Why would he have to tell her? She would already know. Come one...set reason aside and suspend disbelief! ;) Probably why they didn't follow up on it. They could do more of that, imo. Less direct exposition (i.e. explaining out loud) makes for better stories/films. I agree that less direct exposition is better but for this particular thing with Finn, I think they should’ve just not had it in there at all. It did nothing for the story. The Hux spy thing just should’ve been handled differently. All in all, these are nitpicky things and I liked this last Star Wars entry. Including these minor blemishes and a few others not yet mentioned, I’d probably give it a B+ and place it in the top 3 or 4. Might have to give it a second cinema viewing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 Finn said a few times that he wanted to tell Rey something. But he never did. Or did I miss that somehow?That did seem to fall by the wayside. According to this, which cites Abrams, it was that he was force-sensitive. That makes sense. Why would he have to tell her? She would already know. Come one...set reason aside and suspend disbelief! ;) Probably why they didn't follow up on it. They could do more of that, imo. Less direct exposition (i.e. explaining out loud) makes for better stories/films. General Hux: I'm the spy. [He should have looked right at the audience when saying that] :DPerfect example. Weird that it made the cut, or even past script review. Just unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 What bugged me about the "I'm the spy" line is that "the spy" part. Was Hux part of the rebel conversation about having a spy in the First Order? It was like he was making reference to a pre-existing conversation -- which he was, of course, but it was a conversation the audience knew, but he could not have, unless I missed something. Maybe the line should have been _more_ explanatory, more like "I've been helping your lot." At the same time, I recognize that comes perilously close to the "But they didn't do it the way I wanted them to do it" kind of whiny criticism I hate so much. So feel free to ignore me. I did like it, though, despite all the well-deserved above points, like the yadda-yadda'ing of Palpatine's survival, etc. I'll happily watch it again. Just as another opinion, I assumed the thing Finn wanted to tell Rey was his feelings/love for her (which was one reason the Rose character was so sidelined in this one), but he recognized Poe probably felt the same way, so he didn't want to upset the friendship. I'm not sure how you pronounce it, but . . . . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I liked the film but thought it was narrative mess. but I love The Last Jedi so take it for what you will :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 What bugged me about the "I'm the spy" line is that "the spy" part. Was Hux part of the rebel conversation about having a spy in the First Order? It was like he was making reference to a pre-existing conversation -- which he was, of course, but it was a conversation the audience knew, but he could not have, unless I missed something. Maybe the line should have been _more_ explanatory, more like "I've been helping your lot." At the same time, I recognize that comes perilously close to the "But they didn't do it the way I wanted them to do it" kind of whiny criticism I hate so much. So feel free to ignore me. I don't think wondering about such obvious plot holes is nitpicking. The spy thing...how is that even kept a secret when he's so close to Kylo...a master mind-reader? Let me guess, the Emperor is blocking it because the spy's betrayal is part of the grand scheme... :eyeroll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol"I have the perfect plan. Create a force of planet-destroying weapons...AGAIN!" Edited December 30, 2019 by goose 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol"I have the perfect plan. Create a force of planet-destroying weapons...AGAIN!" yea. this film did make him look like a chump i'm not gonna lie, lol still my fav all time baddie though. ian Mcdirmid rules, Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol"I have the perfect plan. Create a force of planet-destroying weapons...AGAIN!" yea. this film did make him look like a chump i'm not gonna lie, lol still my fav all time baddie though. ian Mcdirmid rules, MickSo, that was actually him? Cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol"I have the perfect plan. Create a force of planet-destroying weapons...AGAIN!" yea. this film did make him look like a chump i'm not gonna lie, lol still my fav all time baddie though. ian Mcdirmid rules, MickSo, that was actually him? Cool. i thought so. they used some film magic on him but it was him. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol the other dumb thing he did was tell Rey his plan that he needed her to strike him down. He should have just taunted her and she would have light sabered the shit out of him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol the other dumb thing he did was tell Rey his plan that he needed her to strike him down. He should have just taunted her and she would have light sabered the shit out of him. i was with with my friend. i love the guy he's one of those Star wars can do no wrong guys. i leaned over and said "um.......if his life force was gonna go into Rey at his death. why tell her? let her just kill you!!" that even made my friend think, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol the other dumb thing he did was tell Rey his plan that he needed her to strike him down. He should have just taunted her and she would have light sabered the shit out of him. i was with with my friend. i love the guy he's one of those Star wars can do no wrong guys. i leaned over and said "um.......if his life force was gonna go into Rey at his death. why tell her? let her just kill you!!" that even made my friend think, lol Mick unfortunately this film has a few of those moments 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol the other dumb thing he did was tell Rey his plan that he needed her to strike him down. He should have just taunted her and she would have light sabered the shit out of him. i was with with my friend. i love the guy he's one of those Star wars can do no wrong guys. i leaned over and said "um.......if his life force was gonna go into Rey at his death. why tell her? let her just kill you!!" that even made my friend think, lol MickReminded me of this... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol the other dumb thing he did was tell Rey his plan that he needed her to strike him down. He should have just taunted her and she would have light sabered the shit out of him. i was with with my friend. i love the guy he's one of those Star wars can do no wrong guys. i leaned over and said "um.......if his life force was gonna go into Rey at his death. why tell her? let her just kill you!!" that even made my friend think, lol Mick unfortunately this film has a few of those momentsThe prequels were riddled with them, so you'd think they'd learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol the other dumb thing he did was tell Rey his plan that he needed her to strike him down. He should have just taunted her and she would have light sabered the shit out of him. i was with with my friend. i love the guy he's one of those Star wars can do no wrong guys. i leaned over and said "um.......if his life force was gonna go into Rey at his death. why tell her? let her just kill you!!" that even made my friend think, lol Mick I'm still not sure I believe him about that. I feel like if Palpatine is powerful enough to come back from the grave, he must be powerful enough to have realized and sensed a few things through the force: 1. Kylo/Ben was very near and coming to help Rey, 2. Rey was never going to strike him down and embrace the dark side, just as Luke wouldn't, 3. (I think he already knew this) Kylo and Rey's bond was just the source of power he needed to come fully back to life, and 4. he could tell Rey a little lie to make her question wether she wanted to kill Palpatine in order to stall long enough for Kylo to arrive. This movie reminded me that believing anything Palpatine says is usually what gets people in trouble in these movies. He is eternally a manipulator, which is how he usually wins. I agree with you about the lightning though, lol. The dude is always overestimating his abilities with the force lightning. That lightning was what distracted him from realizing Vader was going to throw him off a ledge in 6 too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Also supposedly there's a 3 hour directors cut that has a bunch of scenes some people have been clamoring for and Disney might be releasing it in theaters in a few weeks $$$ Despite my feelings about Disney's moneymaking schemes, I'd gladly go see it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Also supposedly there's a 3 hour directors cut that has a bunch of scenes some people have been clamoring for and Disney might be releasing it in theaters in a few weeks $$$ Despite my feelings about Disney's moneymaking schemes, I'd gladly go see it. I was wondering if these "JJ Cut" rumors were true. I really hope so 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 By the way this just occured to me. Palpatine is a dumb idiot. 1. he couldn't turn off his lightning when mace made it bounce into him......deformed. 2. he couldn't turn of his lighting with Rey AGAIN.........dead. just stop shooting it mister all powerful. lol Mick he really is a boob when you think on it, lol the other dumb thing he did was tell Rey his plan that he needed her to strike him down. He should have just taunted her and she would have light sabered the shit out of him. i was with with my friend. i love the guy he's one of those Star wars can do no wrong guys. i leaned over and said "um.......if his life force was gonna go into Rey at his death. why tell her? let her just kill you!!" that even made my friend think, lol Mick I'm still not sure I believe him about that. I feel like if Palpatine is powerful enough to come back from the grave, he must be powerful enough to have realized and sensed a few things through the force: 1. Kylo/Ben was very near and coming to help Rey, 2. Rey was never going to strike him down and embrace the dark side, just as Luke wouldn't, 3. (I think he already knew this) Kylo and Rey's bond was just the source of power he needed to come fully back to life, and 4. he could tell Rey a little lie to make her question wether she wanted to kill Palpatine in order to stall long enough for Kylo to arrive. This movie reminded me that believing anything Palpatine says is usually what gets people in trouble in these movies. He is eternally a manipulator, which is how he usually wins. I agree with you about the lightning though, lol. The dude is always overestimating his abilities with the force lightning. That lightning was what distracted him from realizing Vader was going to throw him off a ledge in 6 too! Dude i forgot About vadar in Jedi. lol. that's 3 times now. COME ON PALP-Y!!!!!!! lol Mick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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