Principled Man Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n1T3HxHd7Y Edited August 26, 2019 by Principled Man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I’m still excited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 I’m still excited. :musicnote: And you just can't hide it.... :musicnote: ;) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken hawk Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Wow, i havent seen all the Star Wars movies .......but i wont miss this one. Will i be lost if i didnt see all the others ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Wow, i havent seen all the Star Wars movies .......but i wont miss this one. Will i be lost if i didnt see all the others ? Which ones haven't you seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken hawk Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Wow, i havent seen all the Star Wars movies .......but i wont miss this one. Will i be lost if i didnt see all the others ? Which ones haven't you seen? Most of the newer ones...i should catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Wow, i havent seen all the Star Wars movies .......but i wont miss this one. Will i be lost if i didnt see all the others ? Which ones haven't you seen? Most of the newer ones...i should catch up. Yes, you should familiarize yourself with the new cast: Rey, Ben (Kylo Ren), Finn, Poe Dameron, BB-8, et al. The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi take place about 30 years after Return of The Jedi. The Empire has lost its stranglehold over the Galaxy, but the remaining forces form The First Order, which seeks to create a new empire and crush the Galactic Republic and Resistance once and for all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) I enjoyed The Force Awakens quite a bit. Rogue One was really good. The Last Jedi was a steaming pile of dog vomit. Solo was not bad. Here's hoping The Rise of Skywalker holds up. Teaser looks awesome - Don't f**k it up Abrams. Edited August 26, 2019 by chemistry1973 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) The Last Jedi was a steaming pile of dog vomit. It was worse than that. At least a pile of dog vomit is usually easy to clean up. The mess made with The Last Jedi might not be. Edited August 26, 2019 by J2112YYZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Three Eyes Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXT38i7-RN0 Hold my beer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 So, Rey goes to the dark side? This is already better than the last movie if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 ...and I still like The Last Jedi. The sequel trilogy looks like it should sit snugly between the prequels and the originals in terms of quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yeah, I'll add another pea shooter to the fleet defending The Last Jedi; I liked it; my son liked it; I've even watched it again, voluntarily. This looks cool -- but I bet you a shiny dime the Rey thing is some sort of false vision (like Luke's in the cave on Dagobah . . .) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yeah, I'll add another pea shooter to the fleet defending The Last Jedi; I liked it; my son liked it; I've even watched it again, voluntarily. This looks cool -- but I bet you a shiny dime the Rey thing is some sort of false vision (like Luke's in the cave on Dagobah . . .) Yeah, not a chance Disney will smash the dreams of their new fanbase of little girls by turning Rey to the Dark Side...also, I don't see that making any sense in her character arc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yeah, I'll add another pea shooter to the fleet defending The Last Jedi; I liked it; my son liked it; I've even watched it again, voluntarily. This looks cool -- but I bet you a shiny dime the Rey thing is some sort of false vision (like Luke's in the cave on Dagobah . . .) Yeah, not a chance Disney will smash the dreams of their new fanbase of little girls by turning Rey to the Dark Side...also, I don't see that making any sense in her character arc. I say smash them. Kids need to learn early that things may not go the way they like sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yeah, I'll add another pea shooter to the fleet defending The Last Jedi; I liked it; my son liked it; I've even watched it again, voluntarily. This looks cool -- but I bet you a shiny dime the Rey thing is some sort of false vision (like Luke's in the cave on Dagobah . . .) Yeah, not a chance Disney will smash the dreams of their new fanbase of little girls by turning Rey to the Dark Side...also, I don't see that making any sense in her character arc. I say smash them. Kids need to learn early that things may not go the way they like sometimes. I agree, but I still doubt Disney is capable of doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yeah, I'll add another pea shooter to the fleet defending The Last Jedi; I liked it; my son liked it; I've even watched it again, voluntarily. This looks cool -- but I bet you a shiny dime the Rey thing is some sort of false vision (like Luke's in the cave on Dagobah . . .) Yeah, not a chance Disney will smash the dreams of their new fanbase of little girls by turning Rey to the Dark Side...also, I don't see that making any sense in her character arc. She has little reason to turn to the Dark Side. She has shown virtually no desire for power, revenge, or any other vice. I think she'll pull through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Yeah, I'll add another pea shooter to the fleet defending The Last Jedi; I liked it; my son liked it; I've even watched it again, voluntarily. This looks cool -- but I bet you a shiny dime the Rey thing is some sort of false vision (like Luke's in the cave on Dagobah . . .) Yeah, not a chance Disney will smash the dreams of their new fanbase of little girls by turning Rey to the Dark Side...also, I don't see that making any sense in her character arc. She has little reason to turn to the Dark Side. She has shown virtually no desire for power, revenge, or any other vice. I think she'll pull through! She also has no motivation to really do anything. Why even be a Jedi. What is driving her. What are the stakes? She is simply a "girl character" where the audience needs no reason to route for her, aside from her being a female. - Sorry to seem so shitty, but it's apparent that they didn't really flesh the character out. Rose Tico exhibited more motivation and reason for existing. What mission is she on. What is she fighting for. What does she have to lose. Why should we care about Rey in any way? I'll add that Kylo Ren also offers nearly no backstory or character development. He just feels "pain". We have to infer just about everything else with these characters. They are archetypes - not human beings. We don't even know what happened with the Knights of Ren and Luke, and we have zero backstory work with when it comes to Rey. The movies should have centered around Finn. Edited August 27, 2019 by chemistry1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yeah, I'll add another pea shooter to the fleet defending The Last Jedi; I liked it; my son liked it; I've even watched it again, voluntarily. This looks cool -- but I bet you a shiny dime the Rey thing is some sort of false vision (like Luke's in the cave on Dagobah . . .) Yeah, not a chance Disney will smash the dreams of their new fanbase of little girls by turning Rey to the Dark Side...also, I don't see that making any sense in her character arc. She has little reason to turn to the Dark Side. She has shown virtually no desire for power, revenge, or any other vice. I think she'll pull through! She also has no motivation to really do anything. Why even be a Jedi. What is driving her. What are the stakes? In my opinion, Rey's life has been quite similar to Luke's. An inherently good person, young & gifted, but with no idea of who she is and who her family was, and stuck on some nasty planet with nowhere to go. Only an attack by the Empire/First Order changed her life and sent her to other worlds, where she found purpose. Luke experienced the same life events. Luke and Rey were motivated to become Jedi for the same reason. The Empire/First Order destroyed their lives and killed the ones they loved. Luke was motivated to become better than his father (and to save him), and Rey is motivated to be better than her loser, nobody parents. Both become committed to seeking justice - for themselves and for the Galaxy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Yeah, I'll add another pea shooter to the fleet defending The Last Jedi; I liked it; my son liked it; I've even watched it again, voluntarily. This looks cool -- but I bet you a shiny dime the Rey thing is some sort of false vision (like Luke's in the cave on Dagobah . . .) Yeah, not a chance Disney will smash the dreams of their new fanbase of little girls by turning Rey to the Dark Side...also, I don't see that making any sense in her character arc. She has little reason to turn to the Dark Side. She has shown virtually no desire for power, revenge, or any other vice. I think she'll pull through! She also has no motivation to really do anything. Why even be a Jedi. What is driving her. What are the stakes? In my opinion, Rey's life has been quite similar to Luke's. An inherently good person, young & gifted, but with no idea of who she is and who her family was, and stuck on some nasty planet with nowhere to go. Only an attack by the Empire/First Order changed her life and sent her to other worlds, where she found purpose. Luke experienced the same life events. Luke and Rey were motivated to become Jedi for the same reason. The Empire/First Order destroyed their lives and killed the ones they loved. Luke was motivated to become better than his father (and to save him), and Rey is motivated to be better than her loser, nobody parents. Both become committed to seeking justice - for themselves and for the Galaxy. Luke had dreams of becoming a pilot, and had a home life that was violently taken from him - no mystery there at all. Also - the Empire killed his uncle and mentor. We know nothing about Rey, and can only infer what her motivations are. Where does her morality come from? She should be a scavenger - dirty, uncouth, uneducated. Her character makes no sense at all. In Rogue One we got a sense of who Jyn was - what happened to her parents, and who raised her - And the Jyn character's backstory could easily be Rey's backstory. Edited August 27, 2019 by chemistry1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 We know nothing about Rey, and can only infer what her motivations are. Where does her morality come from? She should be a scavenger - dirty, uncouth, uneducated. Her character makes no sense at all. Rey's motivations are clear to me. She wanted a family. She wanted her parents back, which is why she kept wanting to go back to Jakku. Maz Kanata convinced her to let go of that fantasy. Rey then bonded with Han, Chewbacca, Finn and Leia. Every day, children are brought up in horrible environments and still become good, moral people. Growing up in a scavenger world is no different than growing up in a real-life gang-infested neighborhood, where violence rules. Morality always comes from within, which is why good people come out of horrible families and neighborhoods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Wow, i havent seen all the Star Wars movies .......but i wont miss this one. Will i be lost if i didnt see all the others ? Which ones haven't you seen? Most of the newer ones...i should catch up. Yes, you should familiarize yourself with the new cast: Rey, Ben (Kylo Ren), Finn, Poe Dameron, BB-8, et al. The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi take place about 30 years after Return of The Jedi. The Empire has lost its stranglehold over the Galaxy, but the remaining forces form The First Order, which seeks to create a new empire and crush the Galactic Republic and Resistance once and for all. and don't listen to the Last Jedi haters. It was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I enjoyed The Force Awakens quite a bit. Rogue One was really good. The Last Jedi was a steaming pile of dog vomit. Solo was not bad. I agree with all of that except that I thought the Solo flick was very forgettable. Not bad, but not good either. I could’ve skipped it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 I enjoyed The Force Awakens quite a bit. Rogue One was really good. The Last Jedi was a steaming pile of dog vomit. Solo was not bad. I agree with all of that except that I thought the Solo flick was very forgettable. Not bad, but not good either. I could’ve skipped it. I did skip it, as it was not a Han Solo film. It was a shameless money grab, which featured a total stranger trying to impersonate Han Solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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