Wil1972 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I think Micky Dolenz deserves more respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) No Matt Cameron...fail Stewert Copeland...hasn't done shit on the drums beyond the Police. most overrated drummer ever. Charlie Watts...his entire career could be replaced by a drum machine. Max Weinberg -wouldn't be on the list if his nose wasn't stuck up Bruce's ass. Piece of shit list. Excuse me while I clear all the cookies and browser history from this click bait shit site. Edited December 20, 2018 by HemiBeers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 No Matt Cameron...fail Stewert Copeland...hasn't done shit on the drums beyond the Police. most overrated drummer ever. Charlie Watts...his entire career could be replaced by a drum machine. Max Weinberg -wouldn't be on the list if his nose wasn't stuck up Bruce's ass. Piece of shit list. Excuse me while I clear all the cookies and browser history from this click bait shit site. Matt Cameron might be the most underrated drummer I know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhawk2112 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 The drummer not ranked high enough on this list is Ginger Baker... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I haven't looked at it. But if it doesn't include Phil Rudd, and have him in the top 3 and ahead of Neil, it's a bullshit list. Folks, Neil is NOT a good rock drummer. No feel. No groove. He a robot, programmed to jerk off all over the place. ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 No Matt Cameron...fail Stewert Copeland...hasn't done shit on the drums beyond the Police. most overrated drummer ever. Charlie Watts...his entire career could be replaced by a drum machine. Max Weinberg -wouldn't be on the list if his nose wasn't stuck up Bruce's ass. Piece of shit list. Excuse me while I clear all the cookies and browser history from this click bait shit site. To each his own, but I completely disagree with your statements on all 3 above! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Except for Matt Cameron - a great drummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 I haven't looked at it. But if it doesn't include Phil Rudd, and have him in the top 3 and ahead of Neil, it's a bullshit list. Folks, Neil is NOT a good rock drummer. No feel. No groove. He a robot, programmed to jerk off all over the place. ...Not being a drummer, I don't pretend to be able to give any meaningful assessment of Neil as a "rock" drummer. One of my favorite drummers is Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree, but what do I know about drumming... Not much. I just love listening to Neil play... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 How does Ringo Starr rank so high? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 How does Ringo Starr rank so high? Being the drummer of the most popular musical act of the last century might have a lot to do with it. It's not like he sucks anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 How does Ringo Starr rank so high? Being the drummer of the most popular musical act of the last century might have a lot to do with it. It's not like he sucks anyways.He doesn’t suck but he isn’t great either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) How does Ringo Starr rank so high? Being the drummer of the most popular musical act of the last century might have a lot to do with it. It's not like he sucks anyways.He doesn’t suck but he isn’t great either. Depends on your definition of great. A great drummer imo knows when to play what, and always plays to serve the tune. Peart is surprisingly a great example of this, as his complex and machinelike style compliment the overall complexity of Rush's songs perfectly. Meanwhile, Ringo's extremely straightforward approach (with a slight quirk caused by a lefty playing a right handed kit setup) compliments the Beatles' very straightforward songs quite well. And when their songs aren't so straightforward, Ringo provides a simple backbone for the rest of the instruments to revolve around. I'm not saying the tunes would suck with a more technically skilled drummer, but I think Ringo's simplistic approach actually adds to their quality in a way many other drummers couldn't. Besides, I doubt you could find many drummers out there who are willing to bash his work, even the most technically proficient of them. Edited December 20, 2018 by Entre_Perpetuo 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) No Matt Cameron...fail Stewert Copeland...hasn't done shit on the drums beyond the Police. most overrated drummer ever. Charlie Watts...his entire career could be replaced by a drum machine. Max Weinberg -wouldn't be on the list if his nose wasn't stuck up Bruce's ass. Piece of shit list. Excuse me while I clear all the cookies and browser history from this click bait shit site. Matt Cameron might be the most underrated drummer I know. Bill Berry?? I see him on no ones top ten list cept mine and my best friend's, and as far as I know he has only been mentioned in a top ten once, IN THE PARAGRAPH BEFORE THE LIST EVEN STARTED!! Edited December 20, 2018 by Permanent-Rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 No Matt Cameron...fail Stewert Copeland...hasn't done shit on the drums beyond the Police. most overrated drummer ever. Charlie Watts...his entire career could be replaced by a drum machine. Max Weinberg -wouldn't be on the list if his nose wasn't stuck up Bruce's ass. Piece of shit list. Excuse me while I clear all the cookies and browser history from this click bait shit site. Matt Cameron might be the most underrated drummer I know. Bill Berry?? I see him on no ones top ten list cept mine and my best friend's, and as far as I know he has only been mentioned in a top ten once, IN THE PARAGRAPH BEFORE THE LIST EVEN STARTED!! He’s no slouch, but he’s never caught my ear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 How does Ringo Starr rank so high? Being the drummer of the most popular musical act of the last century might have a lot to do with it. It's not like he sucks anyways.He doesn’t suck but he isn’t great either. Depends on your definition of great. A great drummer imo knows when to play what, and always plays to serve the tune. Peart is surprisingly a great example of this, as his complex and machinelike style compliment the overall complexity of Rush's songs perfectly. Meanwhile, Ringo's extremely straightforward approach (with a slight quirk caused by a lefty playing a right handed kit setup) compliments the Beatles' very straightforward songs quite well. And when their songs aren't so straightforward, Ringo provides a simple backbone for the rest of the instruments to revolve around. I'm not saying the tunes would suck with a more technically skilled drummer, but I think Ringo's simplistic approach actually adds to their quality in a way many other drummers couldn't. Besides, I doubt you could find many drummers out there who are willing to bash his work, even the most technically proficient of them. Yes, yes, yes! As I stated earlier drumming is not about playing the most complex patterns possible - unless you are in a band like Rush. The drummer is there to set the time and to complement, but not to overplay and overshadow the rest of the band. I think non-drummers have a different view of who is best. As a long time drummer, I have come to realize that I get the best feedback from other musicians when I keep a steady beat and again don't overplay. Musicians appreciate a rock steady drummer. Ringo Starr is on the list because he may be the most influential drummer of all time! I believe more kids took up drumming after seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan than any other time. His oyster black Ludwig kit remains the most iconic drum set ever. The original bass head used on Ed Sullivan sold for over $2 million and his actual first Ludwig kit sold for over $2.1 million. Ringo was perfect for the Beatles. His drumming on their albums (and as the story goes he didn't play on all songs), was exactly what those songs needed. Ringo Starr and Charlie Watts both belong on any greatest drummers lists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 How does Ringo Starr rank so high? Being the drummer of the most popular musical act of the last century might have a lot to do with it. It's not like he sucks anyways.He doesn’t suck but he isn’t great either. Depends on your definition of great. A great drummer imo knows when to play what, and always plays to serve the tune. Peart is surprisingly a great example of this, as his complex and machinelike style compliment the overall complexity of Rush's songs perfectly. Meanwhile, Ringo's extremely straightforward approach (with a slight quirk caused by a lefty playing a right handed kit setup) compliments the Beatles' very straightforward songs quite well. And when their songs aren't so straightforward, Ringo provides a simple backbone for the rest of the instruments to revolve around. I'm not saying the tunes would suck with a more technically skilled drummer, but I think Ringo's simplistic approach actually adds to their quality in a way many other drummers couldn't. Besides, I doubt you could find many drummers out there who are willing to bash his work, even the most technically proficient of them. "The drummer is there to set the time and to complement, but not to overplay and overshadow the rest of the band. . ." So, are you suggesting that Neil "overplayed" or "overshadowed" Alex and Ged? IMO, he did not. I think they were all complimentary to each other. If there was a drummer that overplayed or overshadowed the rest of the band, in my opinion, it would have been Portnoy in DT (although they all overplay)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 How does Ringo Starr rank so high? Being the drummer of the most popular musical act of the last century might have a lot to do with it. It's not like he sucks anyways.He doesn’t suck but he isn’t great either. Depends on your definition of great. A great drummer imo knows when to play what, and always plays to serve the tune. Peart is surprisingly a great example of this, as his complex and machinelike style compliment the overall complexity of Rush's songs perfectly. Meanwhile, Ringo's extremely straightforward approach (with a slight quirk caused by a lefty playing a right handed kit setup) compliments the Beatles' very straightforward songs quite well. And when their songs aren't so straightforward, Ringo provides a simple backbone for the rest of the instruments to revolve around. I'm not saying the tunes would suck with a more technically skilled drummer, but I think Ringo's simplistic approach actually adds to their quality in a way many other drummers couldn't. Besides, I doubt you could find many drummers out there who are willing to bash his work, even the most technically proficient of them. "The drummer is there to set the time and to complement, but not to overplay and overshadow the rest of the band. . ." So, are you suggesting that Neil "overplayed" or "overshadowed" Alex and Ged? IMO, he did not. I think they were all complimentary to each other. If there was a drummer that overplayed or overshadowed the rest of the band, in my opinion, it would have been Portnoy in DT (although they all overplay)... That’s not at all what they were suggesting. They mentioned that Rush with Neil are the exception to the “rule” that drumming isn’t about playing the most complex patterns in the previous sentence to the one you quoted. Don’t take people’s words out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Don't suppose someone would care to list the drummers here so I don't have to go through the whole thing myself . . . I get irritated by those "they didn't know they were being photographed" and "why Hollywood won't hire ______ anymore" and "you won't believe what __________ looks like now" things. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Don't suppose someone would care to list the drummers here so I don't have to go through the whole thing myself . . . I get irritated by those "they didn't know they were being photographed" and "why Hollywood won't hire ______ anymore" and "you won't believe what __________ looks like now" things. Alex Van HalenTommy LeePhil CollinsCarmine AppiceJanet WeissChad SmithRoger TaylorTommy Aldridge Jeff PorcaroDanny CareyTerry BozzioMaureen “Moe” TuckerMax WeinbergMike PortnoyDave GrohlRingo StarrIan PaiceMitch MitchellStewart CopelandKeith MoonBill BrufordCharlie WattsGinger BakerNeil PeartJohn Bonham 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 ^ Terima kasih banyak!! Though IMO I believe Bill Berry should be on that list, and is better than most of those drummers, just my opinion here folks don't get offended!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Many thanks, EP!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 ^ Terima kasih banyak!! Though IMO I believe Bill Berry should be on that list, and is better than most of those drummers, just my opinion here folks don't get offended!!He’s not anywhere near the class of most of those drummers really. If you enjoy his playing that’s enough. I’d say Gavin Harrison is better than many of those. I think as a technician Moon should be lower as should Starr and Grohl, but it isn’t just about technique hence why Peart doesn’t always come top. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 ^ Terima kasih banyak!! Though IMO I believe Bill Berry should be on that list, and is better than most of those drummers, just my opinion here folks don't get offended!!He’s not anywhere near the class of most of those drummers really. If you enjoy his playing that’s enough. I’d say Gavin Harrison is better than many of those. I think as a technician Moon should be lower as should Starr and Grohl, but it isn’t just about technique hence why Peart doesn’t always come top. Indeed and for phil collins to be rated one above tommy lee.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaportrailer Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 ^Terima kasih banyak!! You speak Indonesian?! :o Anda pintar!Selamat Hari Natal! (dan Tahun Baru) :cheers: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) ^Terima kasih banyak!! You speak Indonesian?! :o Anda pintar!Selamat Hari Natal! (dan Tahun Baru) :cheers: Ya, saya berbicara Bahasa Indonesia, untuk seorang sedikit sementara sekarang!! Saya melakukan untuk seorang teman-teman!! :cheers: Edited December 24, 2018 by Permanent-Rush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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