JohnRogers Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed. Songs written in the 1970’s Songs recorded in the 1979 The album was produced and mixed in 1979 The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979 The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979 Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979 These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed. Songs written in the 1970’s Songs recorded in the 1979 The album was produced and mixed in 1979 The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979 The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979 Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979 These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously. :goodone: Edited January 4, 2018 by laughedatbytime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) A thought experiment... Big Star's Third (aka, Alex Chilton's Sister Lovers) was recorded in 1974 but not released because of label disinterest (convinced of its lack of commercial appeal). Another label acquired the tapes and released it in 1978, without the involvement of either the band or producer. It picked the songs to include, of the many recorded, leaving some out, and the song order. Other "unofficial" versions would follow over the years with still different songs and song orders. Eventually, an "official" version was released in 1992, with the original producer's involvement, and supposedly Alex Chilton's approval, that is claimed to have captured the vision the band had had for the album, which the earlier releases had, to greater or lesser extents, failed to capture. So... for those who insist PeW is an '80s album, is Big Star's Third, recorded in 1974, a '90s album, as it's first official release was 1992? Say the tapes had sat for another two years and the first unofficial release was 1980 instead of 1978; would that make it at earliest an '80s album by any logic? Personally, I think the torturous history of Big Star's 3rd shows that the decade of an album has to be defined by that in which it was recorded, otherwise, you can be left with a ridiculous assertion that this Velvet Underground-inspired '70s masterpiece is a '90s album because that's when it was first officially released. Edited January 4, 2018 by Rutlefan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed. Songs written in the 1970’s Songs recorded in the 1979 The album was produced and mixed in 1979 The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979 The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979 Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979 These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously.So you are saying the science is settled? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed. Songs written in the 1970’s Songs recorded in the 1979 The album was produced and mixed in 1979 The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979 The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979 Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979 These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously.So you are saying the science is settled?On Permanent Waves? Yes. I’m currently working on a theory that Ron Moore’s Battlestar Galactica was just a nightmare of Dirk Benedict’s Starbuck. While he was marooned on a desolate planet in the last episode of Galactica 1980. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushFanForever Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed. Songs written in the 1970’s Songs recorded in the 1979 The album was produced and mixed in 1979 The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979 The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979 Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979 These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously. We can also say that 'The Buggles' album 'The Age Of Plastic is from the 70's since its release date is four days prior to 'Permanent Waves'. Then 'video killed the radio star' or it helped them. Edited January 5, 2018 by RushFanForever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZ Working Man Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 An Epic straight out of Morin Heights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planet X-1 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed. Songs written in the 1970’s Songs recorded in the 1979 The album was produced and mixed in 1979 The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979 The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979 Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979 These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously. ...stop using alternative facts. :P Truth be told, PeW is a 70's album but was most influential during the 80s...(and the 90s...and into next millennia). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na na na Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I don't care if it is a 70's album. Permanent Waves came out january 14 1980. Fact!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 A thought experiment... Big Star's Third (aka, Alex Chilton's Sister Lovers) was recorded in 1974 but not released because of label disinterest (convinced of its lack of commercial appeal). Another label acquired the tapes and released it in 1978, without the involvement of either the band or producer. It picked the songs to include, of the many recorded, leaving some out, and the song order. Other "unofficial" versions would follow over the years with still different songs and song orders. Eventually, an "official" version was released in 1992, with the original producer's involvement, and supposedly Alex Chilton's approval, that is claimed to have captured the vision the band had had for the album, which the earlier releases had, to greater or lesser extents, failed to capture. So... for those who insist PeW is an '80s album, is Big Star's Third, recorded in 1974, a '90s album, as it's first official release was 1992? Say the tapes had sat for another two years and the first unofficial release was 1980 instead of 1978; would that make it at earliest an '80s album by any logic? Personally, I think the torturous history of Big Star's 3rd shows that the decade of an album has to be defined by that in which it was recorded, otherwise, you can be left with a ridiculous assertion that this Velvet Underground-inspired '70s masterpiece is a '90s album because that's when it was first officially released.A 90s album of 70s music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 ^^ If you like :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed. Songs written in the 1970’s Songs recorded in the 1979 The album was produced and mixed in 1979 The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979 The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979 Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979 These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously.So you are saying the science is settled?On Permanent Waves? Yes. I’m currently working on a theory that Ron Moore’s Battlestar Galactica was just a nightmare of Dirk Benedict’s Starbuck. While he was marooned on a desolate planet in the last episode of Galactica 1980.I wonder when the episodes were written and filmed for Galactica 1980? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 This thread may get resurrected for today, so I wanted to share this February 9, 1980 article from RPM Weekly Magazine (a former Canadian music magazine) re-posted on the Power Windows Tribute website below. Intense Early Reaction to Rush's Permanent Waves It says the actual release date is January 14, 1980. Interesting. That's the first reference I've seen that puts the release date on the 14th. Maybe it was released on Jan. 1 in other markets and delayed two weeks in the US because of the trouble with the front cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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