Lorraine Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Huge difference. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Early on like the 80’s older cars were safer but modern cars while built with less steel have things like crumple zones, air bags and parts designed not to impale drivers. I don’t think safety glass even was used in 1959. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not.Car safety has improved notably every decade in the last five. It has contributed to steadily lower highway fatality rates through the years. It appeared that knowing someone (or multiple) that had died in a crash was a part of life back in the day, but that just isn't as much the case anymore. I'm thankful for how safe modern automobiles are. Unfortunately, I truly believe it has contributed to an increase in incompetent and reckless driving, since the consequences for unacceptable driving are much lower with such safe vehicles. And yet there's still Darwin-award winners refusing to wear seatbelts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) I put this here because I'm always amazed at how easily the new cars crumple in an accident. It doesn't take much to total a car out today. I now realize why automakers did that. Edited December 5, 2017 by Lorraine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) My first car was grandpa's 64 BelAir, not much different than the 59. Solid steel dashboard with no padding. Seat belts were a factory option (lap belts only). Yeah probably a death trap if hitting something head-on. But crap, why'd they have to toast a classic 59 belair? Edited December 5, 2017 by HemiBeers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not.Car safety has improved notably every decade in the last five. It has contributed to steadily lower highway fatality rates through the years. It appeared that knowing someone (or multiple) that had died in a crash was a part of life back in the day, but that just isn't as much the case anymore. I'm thankful for how safe modern automobiles are. Unfortunately, I truly believe it has contributed to an increase in incompetent and reckless driving, since the consequences for unacceptable driving are much lower with such safe vehicles. And yet there's still Darwin-award winners refusing to wear seatbelts.I can only speak for where I live, but the drivers are really bad. Not a week goes by without someone dying in a crash. Almost always it is an inexperienced young driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I drive/drove a Honda Fit...a deer jumped over a guard rail just as I was going under an overpass and landed directly on top of my car from above. To say the car was totaled would be an understatement. It looked like someone crushed a beer can in their hand. I second earlier and I suspect I wouldn't be typing this message. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 My first car was grandpa's 64 BelAir, not much different than the 59. Solid steel dashboard with no padding. Seat belts were a factory option (lap belts only). Yeah probably a death trap if hitting something head-on. But crap, why'd they have to toast a classic 59 belair?Early on like the 80’s older cars were safer but modern cars while built with less steel have things like crumple zones, air bags and parts designed not to impale drivers. I don’t think safety glass even was used in 1959. Looks like the windshield flew right off of that BelAir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not.Car safety has improved notably every decade in the last five. It has contributed to steadily lower highway fatality rates through the years. It appeared that knowing someone (or multiple) that had died in a crash was a part of life back in the day, but that just isn't as much the case anymore. I'm thankful for how safe modern automobiles are. Unfortunately, I truly believe it has contributed to an increase in incompetent and reckless driving, since the consequences for unacceptable driving are much lower with such safe vehicles. And yet there's still Darwin-award winners refusing to wear seatbelts.I can only speak for where I live, but the drivers are really bad. Not a week goes by without someone dying in a crash. Almost always it is an inexperienced young driver.Put the damn phone down and just because we have ABS...stop tailgating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 I drive/drove a Honda Fit...a deer jumped over a guard rail just as I was going under an overpass and landed directly on top of my car from above. To say the car was totaled would be an understatement. It looked like someone crushed a beer can in their hand. I second earlier and I suspect I wouldn't be typing this message.Did you get hurt at all? You wouldn't think a deer could do that much damage to a car, but they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not.Car safety has improved notably every decade in the last five. It has contributed to steadily lower highway fatality rates through the years. It appeared that knowing someone (or multiple) that had died in a crash was a part of life back in the day, but that just isn't as much the case anymore. I'm thankful for how safe modern automobiles are. Unfortunately, I truly believe it has contributed to an increase in incompetent and reckless driving, since the consequences for unacceptable driving are much lower with such safe vehicles. And yet there's still Darwin-award winners refusing to wear seatbelts.I can only speak for where I live, but the drivers are really bad. Not a week goes by without someone dying in a crash. Almost always it is an inexperienced young driver.Put the damn phone down and just because we have ABS...stop tailgating!I don't know what folks think ABS will save them from if they aren't doing their part. The worst are the trucks that seem to think they're invincible on icy roads. 4-Wheel Drive isn't doing to save anyone on ice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 My first car was grandpa's 64 BelAir, not much different than the 59. Solid steel dashboard with no padding. Seat belts were a factory option (lap belts only). Yeah probably a death trap if hitting something head-on. But crap, why'd they have to toast a classic 59 belair?Early on like the 80’s older cars were safer but modern cars while built with less steel have things like crumple zones, air bags and parts designed not to impale drivers. I don’t think safety glass even was used in 1959. Looks like the windshield flew right off of that BelAir.I've never even seen a windshield dislodge itself (and certainly never shatter) in a [non-100mph] crash involving a vehicle made in the last twenty years. Progress! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not.Car safety has improved notably every decade in the last five. It has contributed to steadily lower highway fatality rates through the years. It appeared that knowing someone (or multiple) that had died in a crash was a part of life back in the day, but that just isn't as much the case anymore. I'm thankful for how safe modern automobiles are. Unfortunately, I truly believe it has contributed to an increase in incompetent and reckless driving, since the consequences for unacceptable driving are much lower with such safe vehicles. And yet there's still Darwin-award winners refusing to wear seatbelts.I can only speak for where I live, but the drivers are really bad. Not a week goes by without someone dying in a crash. Almost always it is an inexperienced young driver.Put the damn phone down and just because we have ABS...stop tailgating!I don't know what folks think ABS will save them from if they aren't doing their part. The worst are the trucks that seem to think they're invincible on icy roads. 4-Wheel Drive isn't doing to save anyone on ice.Tell that to the Subaru and Audi drivers up here. Many of which I see in ditches in the winter months up the canyons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I drive/drove a Honda Fit...a deer jumped over a guard rail just as I was going under an overpass and landed directly on top of my car from above. To say the car was totaled would be an understatement. It looked like someone crushed a beer can in their hand. I second earlier and I suspect I wouldn't be typing this message.Did you get hurt at all? You wouldn't think a deer could do that much damage to a car, but they do.I would have rather tangled with that Bel Air...the impact blew out all of the windows. I crawled out of the passenger window and passed out on the side of the road. I had just started driving again after nearly nine months of recuperating from different surgeries. I was out of sorts for a month or so, but absolutely fine otherwise. I saw the deer get up and walk away as I was laying there...I hope he made it as well, poor thing. I was happy to have broken his fall. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not.Car safety has improved notably every decade in the last five. It has contributed to steadily lower highway fatality rates through the years. It appeared that knowing someone (or multiple) that had died in a crash was a part of life back in the day, but that just isn't as much the case anymore. I'm thankful for how safe modern automobiles are. Unfortunately, I truly believe it has contributed to an increase in incompetent and reckless driving, since the consequences for unacceptable driving are much lower with such safe vehicles. And yet there's still Darwin-award winners refusing to wear seatbelts.I can only speak for where I live, but the drivers are really bad. Not a week goes by without someone dying in a crash. Almost always it is an inexperienced young driver.Put the damn phone down and just because we have ABS...stop tailgating!I don't know what folks think ABS will save them from if they aren't doing their part. The worst are the trucks that seem to think they're invincible on icy roads. 4-Wheel Drive isn't doing to save anyone on ice.Tell that to the Subaru and Audi drivers up here. Many of which I see in ditches in the winter months up the canyons.I have a Subaru, and it's gotten me out of a lot of winter jams, but AWD can only do so much. Ice is ice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not.Car safety has improved notably every decade in the last five. It has contributed to steadily lower highway fatality rates through the years. It appeared that knowing someone (or multiple) that had died in a crash was a part of life back in the day, but that just isn't as much the case anymore. I'm thankful for how safe modern automobiles are. Unfortunately, I truly believe it has contributed to an increase in incompetent and reckless driving, since the consequences for unacceptable driving are much lower with such safe vehicles. And yet there's still Darwin-award winners refusing to wear seatbelts.I can only speak for where I live, but the drivers are really bad. Not a week goes by without someone dying in a crash. Almost always it is an inexperienced young driver.Put the damn phone down and just because we have ABS...stop tailgating!I don't know what folks think ABS will save them from if they aren't doing their part. The worst are the trucks that seem to think they're invincible on icy roads. 4-Wheel Drive isn't doing to save anyone on ice.UGGH one of my pet peeves are idiot 4wd truck drivers in winter. I actually take a sick pleasure seeing them stuck in a freeway ditch. I hate ABS. Ok I'm gonna stomp on the brake on an icy road and when the car feels like stopping it eventually will. Otherwise enjoy the slide. Stupid. Edited December 6, 2017 by HemiBeers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g The old cars seem sturdier, but apparently not.Car safety has improved notably every decade in the last five. It has contributed to steadily lower highway fatality rates through the years. It appeared that knowing someone (or multiple) that had died in a crash was a part of life back in the day, but that just isn't as much the case anymore. I'm thankful for how safe modern automobiles are. Unfortunately, I truly believe it has contributed to an increase in incompetent and reckless driving, since the consequences for unacceptable driving are much lower with such safe vehicles. And yet there's still Darwin-award winners refusing to wear seatbelts.I can only speak for where I live, but the drivers are really bad. Not a week goes by without someone dying in a crash. Almost always it is an inexperienced young driver.Put the damn phone down and just because we have ABS...stop tailgating!I don't know what folks think ABS will save them from if they aren't doing their part. The worst are the trucks that seem to think they're invincible on icy roads. 4-Wheel Drive isn't doing to save anyone on ice.UGGH one of my pet peeves are idiot 4wd truck drivers in winter. I actually take a sick pleasure seeing them stuck in a freeway ditch. I hate ABS. Ok I'm gonna stomp on the brake on an icy road and when the car feels like stopping it eventually will. Otherwise enjoy the slide. Stupid.ABS, averaged over year round driving conditions, is much, much safer. ABS has personally saved my life. I do prefer non abs on snow/ice, and it would be nice to have an "abs off" button for such times. Or you could just remove the ABS fuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy85 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Try this one out from the '70s... some of the cars are more familiar. It should be noted that some old cars weren't well built. Chevies back then had a notoriously flexy frame called the X-frame. They're weak in the middle. What is wanted is a passenger compartment that is like a cage while the ends are designed to absorb the blow. I found a test of a late '60's Lincoln that was interesting. They're built like a safe. Hardly any intrusion into the passenger area. Still... it's remedial safety equipment. Lap belts, Collapsible steering column (very important.) It would be interesting to see one of these (or a similar vintage Chrysler) take on a newer car. The '59 Impala was designed mostly for looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 cars today are intentionally designed to crumple but in '59 they were designed to withstand as much as possible. some point along the way they figured it was more important to use the car to save the driver instead of just save the car.. the real question here is what in the fcuk did they really prove by destroying an old classic car.. I mean it's not a mopar but still.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 I don't remember seeing many of those cars back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordgalaxy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Crumple zones are much better for the occupants, but they are also why cars get "totaled" much easier these days. I bet insurance companies love that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 cars today are intentionally designed to crumple but in '59 they were designed to withstand as much as possible. some point along the way they figured it was more important to use the car to save the driver instead of just save the car.. the real question here is what in the fcuk did they really prove by destroying an old classic car.. I mean it's not a mopar but still..How far automotive safety has come? It actually seems really easy to identify what they were going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Crumple zones are much better for the occupants, but they are also why cars get "totaled" much easier these days. I bet insurance companies love that.No doubt. Necessary evil, financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 It keeps car manufacturers and dealerships busy, but must be hurting body work shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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