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The very big drum battle: Buddy Rich vs Neil Peart?


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Joe Morello, really?

 

Oh yes! What he could do was scary.

Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Ronda Alla Turk, Unsquare Dance etc).

 

The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper.

 

Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it.

 

Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested.

 

Take Five is a classic, and I love a lot of Brubeck...but never really paid attention to the drumming as a standout feature of that band.

 

Morello can be so subtle, and everything sounds so effortless, it's easy to overlook him at times. Check out some of the live stuff (Carnegie Hall Concert for example), or just go to YouTube. Lotsa stuff on there!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgvCVi9b7Qo

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k

 

This is a obvious reason why is Rich (who is in his 60s in this video) SUPERIOR to Neil.

 

That YouTube clip didn't work for me. It said it wasn't available in this country (U.S.). Texas King, where are you from?

 

This one should work for those who can't play the original:

 

http://youtu.be/738sdgMNfrA

 

I just realized that the above video that I posted is a joke. It's part of a series of "SHREDS" clips where audio of very bad playing is dubbed onto a performance video. I can't seem to find the legit version of this drum solo.

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re: J Bonham, B Rich almost plays the "Poor Tom" beat here around 3:35. :LOL:

and my god that drum roll that he starts about a minute after...whoa nelly!

 

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Can I skip them both and go straight to Tony F****n Williams please? :)

 

Especially for you!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsCjeHWXiGY

 

and just stumbled across this:

 

 

Tony Williams footage has been tricky to find on YouTube at times, hopefully these links stay up for a while.

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...no one can state absolutely who is a "better" drummer, only who THEY, PERSONALLY think is better, i.e., prefer! there are no valid objective standards for determining who is BETTER,...

Nonsense. Rich was more skilled by many objective measurements, and there's no need to list them.

 

Let's not confuse "better" with "favorite".

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Joe Morello, really?

 

Oh yes! What he could do was scary.

Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Rondo Ala Turk, Unsquare Dance etc).

 

The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper.

 

Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it.

 

Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested.

Paul Desmond (sax) reportedly nearly quit the Brubeck band because Morello's playing drew so much attention. The guy was an incredible drummer. Edited by goose
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Joe Morello, really?

 

Oh yes! What he could do was scary.

Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Ronda Alla Turk, Unsquare Dance etc).

 

The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper.

 

Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it.

 

Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested.

 

Take Five is a classic, and I love a lot of Brubeck...but never really paid attention to the drumming as a standout feature of that band.

 

Morello can be so subtle, and everything sounds so effortless, it's easy to overlook him at times. Check out some of the live stuff (Carnegie Hall Concert for example), or just go to YouTube. Lotsa stuff on there!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgvCVi9b7Qo

Go to the 33:00 mark and let it play. Morello pulls off a series of great fills. As you say, effortless.
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Joe Morello, really?

 

Oh yes! What he could do was scary.

Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Ronda Alla Turk, Unsquare Dance etc).

 

The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper.

 

Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it.

 

Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested.

 

Take Five is a classic, and I love a lot of Brubeck...but never really paid attention to the drumming as a standout feature of that band.

 

Morello can be so subtle, and everything sounds so effortless, it's easy to overlook him at times. Check out some of the live stuff (Carnegie Hall Concert for example), or just go to YouTube. Lotsa stuff on there!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgvCVi9b7Qo

Go to the 33:00 mark and let it play. Morello pulls off a series of great fills. As you say, effortless.

 

ha ha! Goose, you devil; the 33:00 mark is the end of the video and those fills are deadly, but silent.

Did you mean the 'trading fours' starting around 6:30? Tasty stuff!

 

Something from the Burning for Buddy sessions:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY1M10wt62g

 

(The trading-fours start around 3:25.)

 

Not only is Joe Morello kicking ass on the drums, but the old blind bastard had to memorize the arrangement, and nailed it in one take (I figure this is the first take because he misses the crash on his right a couple of times and would've fixed it, or adapted, for a second try).

I wonder if Peart has ever mentioned Morello? He should've taken lessons from him, no offense F Gruber.

 

http://drummerworld.com/pics/drumpics4/JoeMorelloJuly1962.jpg

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Joe Morello, really?

 

Oh yes! What he could do was scary.

Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Ronda Alla Turk, Unsquare Dance etc).

 

The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper.

 

Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it.

 

Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested.

 

Take Five is a classic, and I love a lot of Brubeck...but never really paid attention to the drumming as a standout feature of that band.

 

Morello can be so subtle, and everything sounds so effortless, it's easy to overlook him at times. Check out some of the live stuff (Carnegie Hall Concert for example), or just go to YouTube. Lotsa stuff on there!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgvCVi9b7Qo

Go to the 33:00 mark and let it play. Morello pulls off a series of great fills. As you say, effortless.

 

ha ha! Goose, you devil; the 33:00 mark is the end of the video and those fills are deadly, but silent.

Did you mean the 'trading fours' starting around 6:30? Tasty stuff!

 

:LOL: Yep, that was it!
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Something from the Burning for Buddy sessions:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY1M10wt62g

 

(The trading-fours start around 3:25.)

 

Not only is Joe Morello kicking ass on the drums, but the old blind bastard had to memorize the arrangement, and nailed it in one take (I figure this is the first take because he misses the crash on his right a couple of times and would've fixed it, or adapted, for a second try).

 

:drool: :nom nom nom: :drool:
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