Chris Cornell has died aged 52

[Ancient Ways]

The report is pretty insignificant at this point...i.e., too late to fix anything. Call it a toxic drug cocktail and a terrible tragedy.

 

But if that information can help others free themselves from drug abuse and dependency, then it will be hugely significant.

 

Every time someone dies from the abuse of drugs - legal or illegal - we can use it to help others learn from those fatal mistakes.

He died from strangulation. Anything else affecting his state of mind, especially by people who didn't know him, is speculative. Many medications do a lot of people a lot of good. Modern medicine and medications ahve done a lot for millions of people.

[Presto-digitation]

People are over medicated though. I could go to my doctor tomorrow and feign depression and walk out with anti-depressants. So could you.

 

Some drugs indeed help people. And they can kill others. Side effects are nuts. I saw one drug ad (I have a problem with TV adverts for meds) where one of the side effects was exacerbation of the reason you began taking it to begin with. If I'm taking a drug for constipation shouldn't have a side effect of constipation for fucksake..!

 

I am not convinced that big pharm isn't also a big problem, as helpful as it can be and is to some.

Edited June 3, 2017 by Presto-digitation

[J2112YYZ]

The report is pretty insignificant at this point...i.e., too late to fix anything. Call it a toxic drug cocktail and a terrible tragedy.

 

But if that information can help others free themselves from drug abuse and dependency, then it will be hugely significant.

 

Every time someone dies from the abuse of drugs - legal or illegal - we can use it to help others learn from those fatal mistakes.

 

At the very least a high profile death like this should lead to a closer study of this Ativan he was taking and the effects it can have on somebody who's suffering from depression.

 

Regardless of what the meds may or may not have done to his mental state, he did take his own life. And the way he did it shows that he in some way knew what he was doing. This isn't a horror movie. A cord doesn't accidentally get wrapped around someone's neck to strangle them to death.

[Principled Man]

The report is pretty insignificant at this point...i.e., too late to fix anything. Call it a toxic drug cocktail and a terrible tragedy.

 

But if that information can help others free themselves from drug abuse and dependency, then it will be hugely significant.

 

Every time someone dies from the abuse of drugs - legal or illegal - we can use it to help others learn from those fatal mistakes.

 

He died from strangulation. Anything else affecting his state of mind, especially by people who didn't know him, is speculative.

 

When someone's lit up with all those drugs, including a large dose of an anti-depressant that can make you suicidal, that speculation is not only valid, but warranted.

 

I said it earlier, and I'll say it again. You DON'T give such dangerous medication to someone who is already mentally/emotionally unstable.

[Lucas]

A big part of the problem is that doctors are taught not necessarily about healing to body and finding the root cause, but to follow the guidelines of the AMA and mask the symptoms, simply giving a quick fix solution to issues that are rooted much deeper ..

 

One drug is given and its side effects are countered by yet another drug and it can be a never ending cycle ...

 

The pills are just that - pills .. They can help and they can harm ... the problem seems to be the hap hazard and reckless prescribing of drugs by doctors who are encouraged to push these drugs and continue the cattle call atmosphere in their practice

[Ancient Ways]

The report is pretty insignificant at this point...i.e., too late to fix anything. Call it a toxic drug cocktail and a terrible tragedy.

 

But if that information can help others free themselves from drug abuse and dependency, then it will be hugely significant.

 

Every time someone dies from the abuse of drugs - legal or illegal - we can use it to help others learn from those fatal mistakes.

 

He died from strangulation. Anything else affecting his state of mind, especially by people who didn't know him, is speculative.

 

When someone's lit up with all those drugs, including a large dose of an anti-depressant that can make you suicidal, that speculation is not only valid, but warranted.

 

I said it earlier, and I'll say it again. You DON'T give such dangerous medication to someone who is already mentally/emotionally unstable.

What dose of anti-depressant do you think he was prescribed exactly? Btw, who should be prescribed anti anxiety or anti depressant if not people with those issues?

[Principled Man]

What dose of anti-depressant do you think he was prescribed exactly?

 

That very night, he told his wife that he took extra Ativan.

 

Btw, who should be prescribed anti anxiety or anti depressant if not people with those issues?

 

NO ONE should be prescribed that shit. Common sense alone says that if you truly need to prescribe a drug for depressed people, you prescribe them something that will help them feel HAPPY ....... not suicidal.

[Ancient Ways]

What dose of anti-depressant do you think he was prescribed exactly?

 

That very night, he told his wife that he took extra Ativan.

 

Btw, who should be prescribed anti anxiety or anti depressant if not people with those issues?

 

NO ONE should be prescribed that shit. Common sense alone says that if you truly need to prescribe a drug for depressed people, you prescribe them something that will help them feel HAPPY ....... not suicidal.

The real danger is someone without a medical degree making ignorant statements on the internet about medications they don't understand. I sure hope no one ever takes your advice.

[librarian]

He was on tranquilizers (Ativan) which is in the Valium, Klonapan, Xanax, family. As a recovering person, he shouldn't have been on them in the first place, as they are addictive meds. He was also on a decongestant and a sedative Butalbital.

 

I wonder if he even knew where he was. Can you "black out" and not remember like someone who drinks enough to?

 

Yes I understand that he hung himself and that is how he died, but to say the meds played no part? I call bulls@it!

[Ancient Ways]

He was on tranquilizers (Ativan) which is in the Valium, Klonapan, Xanax, family. As a recovering person, he shouldn't have been on them in the first place, as they are addictive meds. He was also on a decongestant and a sedative Butalbital.

 

I wonder if he even knew where he was. Can you "black out" and not remember like someone who drinks enough to?

 

Yes I understand that he hung himself and that is how he died, but to say the meds played no part? I call bulls@it!

Another "not a doctor" with a medical opinion. You don't know what he was prescribed or how it was dosed. You didn't know Chris Cornell and you don't know which treatment was right or wrong for him.

[librarian]

Not arguing with you ^^^^

[Leanne]

Eddie Vedder Mourns ‘Older Brother’ Chris Cornell’s Death: ‘I Want To Be There For The Family

 

 

http://www.alternativenation.net/eddie-vedder-mourns-older-brother-chris-cornells-death-want-family/

 

I had tears in my eyes after reading this.

[goose]

 

Wicked cover of Jesus Christ Pose in tribute to Chris.

[goose]

Eddie Vedder Mourns ‘Older Brother’ Chris Cornell’s Death: ‘I Want To Be There For The Family

 

 

http://www.alternati...th-want-family/

 

I had tears in my eyes after reading this.

And then I couldn’t stop the memories. And trying to sleep it was like if the neighbours had the music playing and you couldn’t stop it. But then it was fine because then it got into little memories. It just kept going and going and going. And I realised how lucky I was to have hours worth of…you know if each of these memories was quick and I had hours of them. How fortunate was I?! And I didn’t want to be sad, wanted to be grateful not sad. I’m still thinking about those memories and I will live with those memories in my heart and I will…love him forever.”

 

^^^ This is exactly how I feel when i lose someone..and after the 24 hours I just had Sat-Sun with two of my best friends. Grateful for the time together...grateful to have been blessed to share any moment at all with such amazing people. What a gift to receive...

 

And so it is with Chris Cornell.

Edited June 12, 2017 by goose

[Mystic Slipperman]

Eddie Vedder Mourns ‘Older Brother’ Chris Cornell’s Death: ‘I Want To Be There For The Family

 

 

http://www.alternati...th-want-family/

 

I had tears in my eyes after reading this.

And then I couldn’t stop the memories. And trying to sleep it was like if the neighbours had the music playing and you couldn’t stop it. But then it was fine because then it got into little memories. It just kept going and going and going. And I realised how lucky I was to have hours worth of…you know if each of these memories was quick and I had hours of them. How fortunate was I?! And I didn’t want to be sad, wanted to be grateful not sad. I’m still thinking about those memories and I will live with those memories in my heart and I will…love him forever.”

 

^^^ This is exactly how I feel when i lose someone..and after the 24 hours I just had Sat-Sun with two of my best friends. Grateful for the time together...grateful to have been blessed to share any moment at all with such amazing people. What a gift to receive...

 

 

This is the happy/sad, the beautiful and mysterious miracle of living. It breaks your heart and feeds it at the same time.

 

The older we get, hopefully the more we appreciate every moment we get to spend with the people who matter to us most.

[goose]

Eddie Vedder Mourns ‘Older Brother’ Chris Cornell’s Death: ‘I Want To Be There For The Family

 

 

http://www.alternati...th-want-family/

 

I had tears in my eyes after reading this.

And then I couldn’t stop the memories. And trying to sleep it was like if the neighbours had the music playing and you couldn’t stop it. But then it was fine because then it got into little memories. It just kept going and going and going. And I realised how lucky I was to have hours worth of…you know if each of these memories was quick and I had hours of them. How fortunate was I?! And I didn’t want to be sad, wanted to be grateful not sad. I’m still thinking about those memories and I will live with those memories in my heart and I will…love him forever.”

 

^^^ This is exactly how I feel when i lose someone..and after the 24 hours I just had Sat-Sun with two of my best friends. Grateful for the time together...grateful to have been blessed to share any moment at all with such amazing people. What a gift to receive...

 

 

This is the happy/sad, the beautiful and mysterious miracle of living. It breaks your heart and feeds it at the same time.

 

The older we get, hopefully the more we appreciate every moment we get to spend with the people who matter to us most.

[Lucas]

This from 2013, and it is worse now:

 

Prescription drugs are currently responsible for more deaths annually than illegal drugs. According to ( former ) CDC director Tom Frieden,, “it’s a big problem, and it’s getting worse ..

 

Out of the 783,936 annual deaths from conventional medicine mistakes, approximately 106,000 of those are the result of prescription drug use [1]. According to the Journal of the American Medical Association, two-hundred and ninety people in the United States are killed by prescription drugs every day

 

 

The infuriating part of this is that most of these drugs are band-aids .. They do nothing to address the cause, and doctors who prescribe indiscriminately have no desire to look for the cause ..

 

We have a customer here at our shop - she is an MD, spent time on active duty in the Air Force and is also an assistant professor at Robert Wood Johnson here in NJ ... She recently got her degree in acupuncture and has transitioned to holistic medicine .. She is a brilliant person, and she told me that, among other things, one thing that stuck in her mind when making the decision to give up conventional medicine was actually her experience in medical school ... There was no emphasis on healing, nutrition or finding the root cause .... In fact, she said the thing that was stressed all though school was "Keep the corpse alive" - quality of life be damned, as long as the beds were filled ..

 

 

 

[Mystic Slipperman]

 

We have a customer here at our shop - she is an MD, spent time on active duty in the Air Force and is also an assistant professor at Robert Wood Johnson here in NJ ... She recently got her degree in acupuncture and has transitioned to holistic medicine .. She is a brilliant person, and she told me that, among other things, one thing that stuck in her mind when making the decision to give up conventional medicine was actually her experience in medical school ... There was no emphasis on healing, nutrition or finding the root cause .... In fact, she said the thing that was stressed all though school was "Keep the corpse alive" - quality of life be damned, as long as the beds were filled ..

 

That is messed up, and completely inhumane, IMO.

[condemned2bfree]

This from 2013, and it is worse now:

 

Prescription drugs are currently responsible for more deaths annually than illegal drugs. According to ( former ) CDC director Tom Frieden,, “it’s a big problem, and it’s getting worse ..

 

Out of the 783,936 annual deaths from conventional medicine mistakes, approximately 106,000 of those are the result of prescription drug use [1]. According to the Journal of the American Medical Association, two-hundred and ninety people in the United States are killed by prescription drugs every day

 

 

The infuriating part of this is that most of these drugs are band-aids .. They do nothing to address the cause, and doctors who prescribe indiscriminately have no desire to look for the cause ..

 

We have a customer here at our shop - she is an MD, spent time on active duty in the Air Force and is also an assistant professor at Robert Wood Johnson here in NJ ... She recently got her degree in acupuncture and has transitioned to holistic medicine .. She is a brilliant person, and she told me that, among other things, one thing that stuck in her mind when making the decision to give up conventional medicine was actually her experience in medical school ... There was no emphasis on healing, nutrition or finding the root cause .... In fact, she said the thing that was stressed all though school was "Keep the corpse alive" - quality of life be damned, as long as the beds were filled ..

 

I have a very good Doctor. She said to me very candidly once "Medication is very good at treating the symptoms." Is a healthy individual, a good customer, for Pharma?

Edited June 12, 2017 by condemned2bfree

[LedRush]

I've been listening to a lot of Songbook recently:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7JDBMrzMcw

[KW84]

http://i.imgur.com/P4buFhS.jpg?1

 

One month ago today

[GhostGirl]

I've been listening to a lot of Songbook recently:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7JDBMrzMcw

 

That was beautiful. I'm waiting on my order of "Songbook" to arrive any day now.

[willowroolz]

Anneke's tribute to Chris:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiNDum7q958

[Lorraine]

Please don't shoot the messenger (me)!

 

I know nothing about this website. I simply saw a headline elsewhere, clicked on it, and it took me to this place where I scanned this article. I know many of you here loved him.

 

http://themetalden.com/?p=58334

[Ancient Ways]

Please don't shoot the messenger (me)!

 

I know nothing about this website. I simply saw a headline elsewhere, clicked on it, and it took me to this place where I scanned this article. I know many of you here loved him.

 

http://themetalden.com/?p=58334

Asks some interesting questions but wouldn't the cover up be from Detroit police and coroner office? They did investigation and autopsy not tmz. Also, if you really want to control a persons meds that person can't be an employee of the addict. Conflict of interest: keep my job or give him pills.