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The very big drum battle: Buddy Rich vs Neil Peart?


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In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?

My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich.

And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers.

 

The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer?

So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k

 

This is a obvious reason why is Rich (who is in his 60s in this video) SUPERIOR to Neil.

 

That YouTube clip didn't work for me. It said it wasn't available in this country (U.S.). Texas King, where are you from?

 

This one should work for those who can't play the original:

 

http://youtu.be/738sdgMNfrA

 

(EDIT: I just realized that the above video is a joke. It's part of a series of "SHREDS" clips where audio of very bad playing is dubbed onto a performance video. I can't seem to find the legit version of this drum solo.)

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In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?

My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich.

And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers.

 

The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer?

So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject.

 

this is a completely ridiculous expectation. no one can state absolutely who is a "better" drummer, only who THEY, PERSONALLY think is better, i.e., prefer! there are no valid objective standards for determining who is BETTER, only different ways to parse the question, none of which will produce an absolute answer but only a set of preferences. especially considering that pretty much everything about the contexts in which neil peart played and buddy rich played were completely different, from the size of their kits to the styles of music they played to the musicians they played with. pretty much the only thing they have in common in any objective sense is that they both hit things with sticks.

 

:heart: :Neil: :heart:

 

 

I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

:heart: :Neil: :heart:

 

 

I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

 

So then how your vote can be accurate if you didn't listen the other one?

 

no vote is going to be "accurate!" for the reasons i stated above. your search for absolutes in subjective matters such as musical performance are doomed to frustration.

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In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?

My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich.

And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers.

 

The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer?

So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject.

 

Buddy is a good drummer. Ive seen a few things with him. He is like the Jedi Master while Neil is the apprentice.

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Ed does a good job, gotta give him credit for even getting in the ring ... And while I feel it is not fair to compare musicians like this, it is fun, nonetheless

 

I think Neil would be the first to admit that he'd probably be out of his league here

 

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Buddy Rich is a drumming freak. (Papa Jo Jones too)

 

Buddy Rich is actually more musical than some people would think, and is a tasteful and swinging accompanist (check out his work with various vocalists).

He also did some recording with Ravi Shankar, and the results were pretty decent.

 

Neil is a very good rock drummer, whose strength seemed to lie in coming up with interesting drum arrangements for the songs.

 

Who's better than Buddy Rich? Maybe Joe Morello in terms of technique, but that's about it. A very short list indeed!

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I don't know much about drumming training but I am certain Ricki Rockett of Poison never had 1 lesson
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Joe Morello, really?

 

Oh yes! What he could do was scary.

Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Rondo Ala Turk, Unsquare Dance etc).

 

The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper.

 

Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it.

 

Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested.

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Joe Morello, really?

 

Oh yes! What he could do was scary.

Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Ronda Alla Turk, Unsquare Dance etc).

 

The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper.

 

Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it.

 

Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested.

 

Take Five is a classic, and I love a lot of Brubeck...but never really paid attention to the drumming as a standout feature of that band.

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