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His greatest accomplishment by far was refusing to be drafted and sent to Vietnam. It takes a real man to do that.

 

Just my opinion..... :) :)

He had the money to flee but was man enough to stay

 

ALL done While holding the heavyweight title which he to give up (done so in his prime fighting years) and also faced the ridicule he faced for changing his name and religion. I might have done the same.....btw he never was sent to Vietnam.

 

I do have a question about Ali.....Did Ali change his religion to avoid the draft? I appear to have an ongoing discussion about whether or not that question was a fact.

A man has a right to change his name to whatever he wants to change it to...!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQpl7AxSgsE

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With a simple question from this youngster Ali had a way to make us think....

 

 

 

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Listening to this -

 

In the clearing stands a boxer,

And a fighter by his trade

And he carries the reminders

Of every glove that laid him down

And cut him till he cried out

In his anger and his shame,

"I am leaving, I am leaving."

But the fighter still remains

 

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His greatest accomplishment by far was refusing to be drafted and sent to Vietnam. It takes a real man to do that.

 

Just my opinion..... :) :)

He had the money to flee but was man enough to stay

 

ALL done While holding the heavyweight title which he to give up (done so in his prime fighting years) and also faced the ridicule he faced for changing his name and religion. I might have done the same.....btw he never was sent to Vietnam.

 

I do have a question about Ali.....Did Ali change his religion to avoid the draft? I appear to have an ongoing discussion about whether or not that question was a fact.

I don't think he did it for that reason. A black person at that time that was fed up with the status quo (and with his boxing he had seen a lot of things the average person didn't) had two choices: the kindler, gentler approach of MLK or the more aggressive approach of the Nation of Islam. As a fighter it kind of makes sense he chose the more aggressive approach.

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Dodging 21 punches in 10 seconds....

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/muhammad-ali.gif

 

A smarter boxer would have thrown a bunch of gut punches. Ali's mid-section was wiiiiiiiiide open.....:LOL:

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His greatest accomplishment by far was refusing to be drafted and sent to Vietnam. It takes a real man to do that.

 

Just my opinion..... :) :)

He had the money to flee but was man enough to stay

 

ALL done While holding the heavyweight title which he to give up (done so in his prime fighting years) and also faced the ridicule he faced for changing his name and religion. I might have done the same.....btw he never was sent to Vietnam.

 

I do have a question about Ali.....Did Ali change his religion to avoid the draft? I appear to have an ongoing discussion about whether or not that question was a fact.

I don't think he did it for that reason. A black person at that time that was fed up with the status quo (and with his boxing he had seen a lot of things the average person didn't) had two choices: the kindler, gentler approach of MLK or the more aggressive approach of the Nation of Islam. As a fighter it kind of makes sense he chose the more aggressive approach.

The approach of MLK hadn't been working. Besides, black people didn't like it that their last names were white people's names given to their ancestors when they were slaves. I don't blame any of the black people that changed their names or went with the "x" plus a number.
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I'm surprised this thread hasn't gotten more attention. We have can have countless discussions about college football and basketball, but one the most iconic athletes of our time passes, and no biggie.

 

Cool.

 

I can't speak for everyone but maybe it's because a number of the regular posters are too young to remember him as a boxer. I was three years old in 1981 when he had his last fight. I've seen some interview/fight clips over the years but that's it. I'm aware of what an icon he is. Unfortunately the only Ali i'm familiar with is the retired one not the iconic fighter.

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So...I go to breakfast this morning at a place I had never been to...I look up from my menu and there on the wall is a picture box with a boxing glove in it...signed by no other than Mihhamed Ali. It was a cool moment.
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One of the reasons he signed so many things and autographs was dew to an encounter with Ali's childhood hero. Ali said from one of his autobiography books that he waited and waited to see and meet Sugar Ray Robinson. That moment finally came however SRR just brushed him off and never signed an autograph he wanted badly. He says from that moment on IF he ever became famous he would never do that to his fans and he certainly didn't.
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Can't imagine of anyone else having such an impact in sports and surrounding world.

He was absolutely right. He was the greatest.

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Can't imagine of anyone else having such an impact in sports and surrounding world.

He was absolutely right. He was the greatest.

 

Ali's famous line, "I am the greatest!" is a fascinating part of his life and career.

 

Was he the greatest human being? No.

Was he the greatest athlete? Probably not.

Was he the greatest man/father/husband? Many will argue NO.

 

But he certainly did some extraordinary things! His expertise in self-promotion, his charisma, his guile, and his moral integrity concerning social justice and anti-war protests were off the charts!

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Now that I think about it I believe he had a bigger impact on the world outside the ring than in it.
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The inscription that will be in Ali's headstone:

 

 

“I tried to love somebody. I did try to feed the hungry."

 

"I did try, in my life, to clothe those who were naked. I want you to say that I tried to love and serve humanity”

 

A MLK quote.

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Loved the man, ever since the Rumble. I have a 7" of "In Zaire" by Johnny Wakelin somewhere, grim listening now, but then, wow! Come on, I was 5. I was allowed up one night to listen to the first Spinks fight. I was heartbroken, I'd read so much about him up to that point I thought he was invincible.

 

Regarding the Rumble in the Jungle, Mailer's book "The Fight" & the doc "When We Were Kings" are the best of their kind.

 

RIP, The Greatest.

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Loved the man, ever since the Rumble. I have a 7" of "In Zaire" by Johnny Wakelin somewhere, grim listening now, but then, wow! Come on, I was 5. I was allowed up one night to listen to the first Spinks fight. I was heartbroken, I'd read so much about him up to that point I thought he was invincible.

 

Regarding the Rumble in the Jungle, Mailer's book "The Fight" & the doc "When We Were Kings" are the best of their kind.

 

RIP, The Greatest.

I was eight and watched the fight with my Dad. It was one of three times I cried over sports.
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The inscription that will be in Ali's headstone:

 

 

“I tried to love somebody. I did try to feed the hungry."

 

"I did try, in my life, to clothe those who were naked. I want you to say that I tried to love and serve humanity”

 

A MLK quote.

 

If that is true that quote is simply beautiful just like the man.....he was The Greatest.

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http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014711/rs_1024x759-140811171258-1024.ali.cm.81114.jpg

 

That image got to me.....males me wonder what RWilliams was thinking taking that picture.

I am not one to get overly sentimental, especially when it comes to people I don't actually know but this picture choked me up a bit.
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http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014711/rs_1024x759-140811171258-1024.ali.cm.81114.jpg

 

That image got to me.....males me wonder what RWilliams was thinking taking that picture.

I am not one to get overly sentimental, especially when it comes to people I don't actually know but this picture choked me up a bit.

The look in Robin's eyes makes the photo bittersweet.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/muhammad-alis-final-hours-daughters-8116602

 

Ali's heart was so strong it refused to stop, daughter Hana said

 

Muhammad Ali’s heart kept beating for 30 minutes after he died in hospital, his family revealed last night.

 

Even though the boxing legend’s major organs had failed, his heart was so strong it refused to stop, daughter Hana said.

 

In a moving tweet she said: “All of us were around him hugging and kissing him and holding his hands, chanting the Islamic prayer.

 

“All of his organs failed but his HEART wouldn’t stop heating. For 30 minutes... his heart just keep beating.

 

“No one had ever seen anything like it. A true testament to the strength of his Spirit and Will!”

 

Hana added: “We are so happy daddy is free now. We all tried to stay strong and whispered in his ear, ‘You can go now. We will be OK. We love love. Thank you.

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Here in Louisville this is a HUGE deal. Ali came home on a regular basis and just walked around like anyone else and is more than beloved and revered here. The procession for him Friday will be essentially a citywide holiday.

I can only imagine. Now that's a hell of a home town hero!
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