goose Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) His greatest accomplishment by far was refusing to be drafted and sent to Vietnam. It takes a real man to do that. Just my opinion..... :) :)He had the money to flee but was man enough to stay ALL done While holding the heavyweight title which he to give up (done so in his prime fighting years) and also faced the ridicule he faced for changing his name and religion. I might have done the same.....btw he never was sent to Vietnam. I do have a question about Ali.....Did Ali change his religion to avoid the draft? I appear to have an ongoing discussion about whether or not that question was a fact.A man has a right to change his name to whatever he wants to change it to...! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQpl7AxSgsE Edited June 4, 2016 by goose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 With a simple question from this youngster Ali had a way to make us think.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Listening to this - In the clearing stands a boxer,And a fighter by his tradeAnd he carries the remindersOf every glove that laid him downAnd cut him till he cried outIn his anger and his shame,"I am leaving, I am leaving."But the fighter still remains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 His greatest accomplishment by far was refusing to be drafted and sent to Vietnam. It takes a real man to do that. Just my opinion..... :) :)He had the money to flee but was man enough to stay ALL done While holding the heavyweight title which he to give up (done so in his prime fighting years) and also faced the ridicule he faced for changing his name and religion. I might have done the same.....btw he never was sent to Vietnam. I do have a question about Ali.....Did Ali change his religion to avoid the draft? I appear to have an ongoing discussion about whether or not that question was a fact.I don't think he did it for that reason. A black person at that time that was fed up with the status quo (and with his boxing he had seen a lot of things the average person didn't) had two choices: the kindler, gentler approach of MLK or the more aggressive approach of the Nation of Islam. As a fighter it kind of makes sense he chose the more aggressive approach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Dodging 21 punches in 10 seconds....http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/muhammad-ali.gif A smarter boxer would have thrown a bunch of gut punches. Ali's mid-section was wiiiiiiiiide open..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikenrooster Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 His greatest accomplishment by far was refusing to be drafted and sent to Vietnam. It takes a real man to do that. Just my opinion..... :) :)He had the money to flee but was man enough to stay ALL done While holding the heavyweight title which he to give up (done so in his prime fighting years) and also faced the ridicule he faced for changing his name and religion. I might have done the same.....btw he never was sent to Vietnam. I do have a question about Ali.....Did Ali change his religion to avoid the draft? I appear to have an ongoing discussion about whether or not that question was a fact.I don't think he did it for that reason. A black person at that time that was fed up with the status quo (and with his boxing he had seen a lot of things the average person didn't) had two choices: the kindler, gentler approach of MLK or the more aggressive approach of the Nation of Islam. As a fighter it kind of makes sense he chose the more aggressive approach.The approach of MLK hadn't been working. Besides, black people didn't like it that their last names were white people's names given to their ancestors when they were slaves. I don't blame any of the black people that changed their names or went with the "x" plus a number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm surprised this thread hasn't gotten more attention. We have can have countless discussions about college football and basketball, but one the most iconic athletes of our time passes, and no biggie. Cool. I can't speak for everyone but maybe it's because a number of the regular posters are too young to remember him as a boxer. I was three years old in 1981 when he had his last fight. I've seen some interview/fight clips over the years but that's it. I'm aware of what an icon he is. Unfortunately the only Ali i'm familiar with is the retired one not the iconic fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 So...I go to breakfast this morning at a place I had never been to...I look up from my menu and there on the wall is a picture box with a boxing glove in it...signed by no other than Mihhamed Ali. It was a cool moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 One of the reasons he signed so many things and autographs was dew to an encounter with Ali's childhood hero. Ali said from one of his autobiography books that he waited and waited to see and meet Sugar Ray Robinson. That moment finally came however SRR just brushed him off and never signed an autograph he wanted badly. He says from that moment on IF he ever became famous he would never do that to his fans and he certainly didn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Can't imagine of anyone else having such an impact in sports and surrounding world.He was absolutely right. He was the greatest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) Can't imagine of anyone else having such an impact in sports and surrounding world.He was absolutely right. He was the greatest. Ali's famous line, "I am the greatest!" is a fascinating part of his life and career. Was he the greatest human being? No. Was he the greatest athlete? Probably not. Was he the greatest man/father/husband? Many will argue NO. But he certainly did some extraordinary things! His expertise in self-promotion, his charisma, his guile, and his moral integrity concerning social justice and anti-war protests were off the charts! Edited June 5, 2016 by Principled Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 The biggest sports icon since Babe Ruth. I absolutely adored him when I was a kid. He was the greatest for many reasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 I guess Ali was a nobody .. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Now that I think about it I believe he had a bigger impact on the world outside the ring than in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Prince with Ali trying to Ali's levitating magic trick. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/muhammad-alis-daughter-hana-shares-8120079 I believe tomorrow would have been Prince's birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librarian Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 The inscription that will be in Ali's headstone: “I tried to love somebody. I did try to feed the hungry." "I did try, in my life, to clothe those who were naked. I want you to say that I tried to love and serve humanity” A MLK quote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Loved the man, ever since the Rumble. I have a 7" of "In Zaire" by Johnny Wakelin somewhere, grim listening now, but then, wow! Come on, I was 5. I was allowed up one night to listen to the first Spinks fight. I was heartbroken, I'd read so much about him up to that point I thought he was invincible. Regarding the Rumble in the Jungle, Mailer's book "The Fight" & the doc "When We Were Kings" are the best of their kind. RIP, The Greatest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Loved the man, ever since the Rumble. I have a 7" of "In Zaire" by Johnny Wakelin somewhere, grim listening now, but then, wow! Come on, I was 5. I was allowed up one night to listen to the first Spinks fight. I was heartbroken, I'd read so much about him up to that point I thought he was invincible. Regarding the Rumble in the Jungle, Mailer's book "The Fight" & the doc "When We Were Kings" are the best of their kind. RIP, The Greatest.I was eight and watched the fight with my Dad. It was one of three times I cried over sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 The inscription that will be in Ali's headstone: “I tried to love somebody. I did try to feed the hungry." "I did try, in my life, to clothe those who were naked. I want you to say that I tried to love and serve humanity” A MLK quote. If that is true that quote is simply beautiful just like the man.....he was The Greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesweetscience Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014711/rs_1024x759-140811171258-1024.ali.cm.81114.jpg That image got to me.....males me wonder what RWilliams was thinking taking that picture.I am not one to get overly sentimental, especially when it comes to people I don't actually know but this picture choked me up a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014711/rs_1024x759-140811171258-1024.ali.cm.81114.jpg That image got to me.....males me wonder what RWilliams was thinking taking that picture.I am not one to get overly sentimental, especially when it comes to people I don't actually know but this picture choked me up a bit.The look in Robin's eyes makes the photo bittersweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Here in Louisville this is a HUGE deal. Ali came home on a regular basis and just walked around like anyone else and is more than beloved and revered here. The procession for him Friday will be essentially a citywide holiday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/muhammad-alis-final-hours-daughters-8116602 Ali's heart was so strong it refused to stop, daughter Hana said Muhammad Ali’s heart kept beating for 30 minutes after he died in hospital, his family revealed last night. Even though the boxing legend’s major organs had failed, his heart was so strong it refused to stop, daughter Hana said. In a moving tweet she said: “All of us were around him hugging and kissing him and holding his hands, chanting the Islamic prayer. “All of his organs failed but his HEART wouldn’t stop heating. For 30 minutes... his heart just keep beating. “No one had ever seen anything like it. A true testament to the strength of his Spirit and Will!” Hana added: “We are so happy daddy is free now. We all tried to stay strong and whispered in his ear, ‘You can go now. We will be OK. We love love. Thank you. Edited June 8, 2016 by g under p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Here in Louisville this is a HUGE deal. Ali came home on a regular basis and just walked around like anyone else and is more than beloved and revered here. The procession for him Friday will be essentially a citywide holiday.I can only imagine. Now that's a hell of a home town hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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