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What decade does Permanent Waves really belong in?


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I think it can belong to whatever decade Rush want it to be.

Rush albums are universal and not bound by time or space.

 

It's that wibbley wobbley timey wimey stuff.

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http://ilistensoyoudonthaveto.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_3457-1024x768.jpg

 

.. a mere 4 posts into his career here, and Will has already hit a winner !

 

 

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80's no question. It was the exit from the 70's sound and into a brand new sonic and songwriting approach for the band.
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80's no question. It was the exit from the 70's sound and into a brand new sonic and songwriting approach for the band.

 

Whatever the "70s sound" was, they were still making it on Permanent Waves, which was written, recorded, etc. etc. etc. in . . .

 

http://eil.com/images/main/Various-60s++70s+The+Sensational+70s+426262.jpg

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How could they sound eighties in the seventies?

Playing the devil's advocate, this album was released in October '89 but sounded much MUCH closer to music released in the 90s:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/albums/13438.jpg

 

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/X_I4wtNPv5w/0.jpg

How about Hall & Oates' "You Make My Dreams"? It was off their 1980 (exactly on July 29th: Geddy's 27th birthday!) album VOICES but was recorded at some point between November '79-April '80. That song sounds 80s to me but it could've easily been written AND recorded in '79 before any of the other tracks off VOICES.

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C'mon guys, keep it coming !!

I'm trying! :LOL:

You guys in the 70s camp are a stubborn group of bastards and a lot more defensive than the 80s folks. :LOL:

 

I guess I'll try and keep feeding the flames on occasion because neither side seems ready to stop. Taste great, less filling.

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Just listening to R40. As Ged is introducing Jacob's Ladder, he states we are on the "VERGE" of the 70s. Not in the 70s, the VERGE. SO!!!! If Ged thinks its an 80s album, then it darn well is. He is Geddy freakin Lee.

How can anyone interpret "verge of the 70s" as 80s? That doesn't make sense. The verge of something is still part of that something. So Geddy obviously agrees it's a 70s album, which it factually is as any sane and logically thinking person knows. Otherwise Geddy would have said "beginning of the 80s" (or something like that) if he agreed with the delusional 80s crowd, but of course he does not cause he's not delusional. :smoke:

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Just listening to R40. As Ged is introducing Jacob's Ladder, he states we are on the "VERGE" of the 70s. Not in the 70s, the VERGE. SO!!!! If Ged thinks its an 80s album, then it darn well is. He is Geddy freakin Lee.

How can anyone interpret "verge of the 70s" as 80s? That doesn't make sense. The verge of something is still part of that something. So Geddy obviously agrees it's a 70s album, which it factually is as any sane and logically thinking person knows. Otherwise Geddy would have said "beginning of the 80s" (or something like that) if he agreed with the delusional 80s crowd, but of course he does not cause he's not delusional.

Nope. The verge of something is not still part of that something. noun 1. the edge, rim, or margin of something: the verge of a desert; to operate on the verge of fraud. 2. the limit or point beyond which something begins or occurs ... By definition then, Geddy believes it is on the edge of the 70's but hasn't crossed the border into the 70s. Didn't give my opinion on it. Only Geddy freakin Lee's opinion on it. He is the definitive authority here. He is Geddy freakin Lee. And a 1 and a 2 and a 1-2-3- a 1-2-3. :laughing guy: Edited by Pound of Obscure
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Just listening to R40. As Ged is introducing Jacob's Ladder, he states we are on the "VERGE" of the 70s. Not in the 70s, the VERGE. SO!!!! If Ged thinks its an 80s album, then it darn well is. He is Geddy freakin Lee.

How can anyone interpret "verge of the 70s" as 80s? That doesn't make sense. The verge of something is still part of that something. So Geddy obviously agrees it's a 70s album, which it factually is as any sane and logically thinking person knows. Otherwise Geddy would have said "beginning of the 80s" (or something like that) if he agreed with the delusional 80s crowd, but of course he does not cause he's not delusional. :smoke:

1980 is the "verge of the 70s" IF you're going back through time. What was the R40 setlist doing?

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Just listening to R40. As Ged is introducing Jacob's Ladder, he states we are on the "VERGE" of the 70s. Not in the 70s, the VERGE. SO!!!! If Ged thinks its an 80s album, then it darn well is. He is Geddy freakin Lee.

How can anyone interpret "verge of the 70s" as 80s? That doesn't make sense. The verge of something is still part of that something. So Geddy obviously agrees it's a 70s album, which it factually is as any sane and logically thinking person knows. Otherwise Geddy would have said "beginning of the 80s" (or something like that) if he agreed with the delusional 80s crowd, but of course he does not cause he's not delusional.

noun 1. the edge, rim, or margin of something: the verge of a desert; to operate on the verge of fraud. 2. the limit or point beyond which something begins or occurs ... By definition then, Geddy believes it is on the edge of the 70's but hasn't crossed the border into the 70s. Didn't give my opinion on it. Only Geddy freakin Lee's opinion on it. He is the definitive authority here. He is Geddy freakin Lee. And a 1 and a 2 and a 1-2-3- a 1-2-3. :laughing guy:

It seems like the 80s crowd has a general issue with logical thinking. Maybe consult this guy here:

http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200307/spock01/320x240.jpg

 

By definition then, Geddy believes it is on the edge of the 70's but hasn't crossed the border into the 70s

That doesn't make sense at all. Or was the 70s at the end supposed to be 80s? Then it would.

I mean, let's say you're on the edge of the United States to Canada, and you cross the border, then you're somehow magically still in the United States? Um yeah...

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Just listening to R40. As Ged is introducing Jacob's Ladder, he states we are on the "VERGE" of the 70s. Not in the 70s, the VERGE. SO!!!! If Ged thinks its an 80s album, then it darn well is. He is Geddy freakin Lee.

 

Maybe Geddy thinks it's a late '60s album. That would be on the verge of the '70s, too.

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Just listening to R40. As Ged is introducing Jacob's Ladder, he states we are on the "VERGE" of the 70s. Not in the 70s, the VERGE. SO!!!! If Ged thinks its an 80s album, then it darn well is. He is Geddy freakin Lee.

How can anyone interpret "verge of the 70s" as 80s? That doesn't make sense. The verge of something is still part of that something. So Geddy obviously agrees it's a 70s album, which it factually is as any sane and logically thinking person knows. Otherwise Geddy would have said "beginning of the 80s" (or something like that) if he agreed with the delusional 80s crowd, but of course he does not cause he's not delusional.

noun 1. the edge, rim, or margin of something: the verge of a desert; to operate on the verge of fraud. 2. the limit or point beyond which something begins or occurs ... By definition then, Geddy believes it is on the edge of the 70's but hasn't crossed the border into the 70s. Didn't give my opinion on it. Only Geddy freakin Lee's opinion on it. He is the definitive authority here. He is Geddy freakin Lee. And a 1 and a 2 and a 1-2-3- a 1-2-3. :laughing guy:

It seems like the 80s crowd has a general issue with logical thinking. Maybe consult this guy here:

http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200307/spock01/320x240.jpg

 

By definition then, Geddy believes it is on the edge of the 70's but hasn't crossed the border into the 70s

That doesn't make sense at all. Or was the 70s at the end supposed to be 80s? Then it would.

I mean, let's say you're on the edge of the United States to Canada, and you cross the border, then you're somehow magically still in the United States? Um yeah...

Read my post above.

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Certainly PeW is a product of the 70s. However, with the changes in writing style, slick riffs and punchy sound production,metaphorically, it fits quite well in the light of hopeful new year and decade.

 

It`s too bad that almost all of the rest of Rush`s 80s albums brought it all crashng back to earth :P

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Just listening to R40. As Ged is introducing Jacob's Ladder, he states we are on the "VERGE" of the 70s. Not in the 70s, the VERGE. SO!!!! If Ged thinks its an 80s album, then it darn well is. He is Geddy freakin Lee.

How can anyone interpret "verge of the 70s" as 80s? That doesn't make sense. The verge of something is still part of that something. So Geddy obviously agrees it's a 70s album, which it factually is as any sane and logically thinking person knows. Otherwise Geddy would have said "beginning of the 80s" (or something like that) if he agreed with the delusional 80s crowd, but of course he does not cause he's not delusional.

noun 1. the edge, rim, or margin of something: the verge of a desert; to operate on the verge of fraud. 2. the limit or point beyond which something begins or occurs ... By definition then, Geddy believes it is on the edge of the 70's but hasn't crossed the border into the 70s. Didn't give my opinion on it. Only Geddy freakin Lee's opinion on it. He is the definitive authority here. He is Geddy freakin Lee. And a 1 and a 2 and a 1-2-3- a 1-2-3. :laughing guy:

It seems like the 80s crowd has a general issue with logical thinking. Maybe consult this guy here:

http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200307/spock01/320x240.jpg

 

By definition then, Geddy believes it is on the edge of the 70's but hasn't crossed the border into the 70s

That doesn't make sense at all. Or was the 70s at the end supposed to be 80s? Then it would.

I mean, let's say you're on the edge of the United States to Canada, and you cross the border, then you're somehow magically still in the United States? Um yeah...

It makes total sense. If you cross the border as you suggest then of course, you're in Canada. However, you are no longer on the verge of Canada. See, verge means close, but not there yet. And please, for decency's sake, don't use Spock in vain. :D-13:

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