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Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke..

 

I think that we as Rush fans fail to realize how lucky we are and sometimes resort to overly dramatic descriptions such as this. No Geddy does not sound like he is recovering from a stroke.

 

Do you want to hear how lucky we are? Listen to Axl Rose, Vince Neil, David Lee Roth, and tons after tons of 70's and 80's rockers still trying to sound decent but failing nowadays. Geddy may strain, and have a more deeper timbre to his voice now, but to me R40 is a testament to how good he still sounds

 

 

Honestly, I listen to Geddy and still enjoy hearing him sing. It does not sound horrible to me at all. And I am not saying that in a blind fanboy type of way - if he sounded bad I would have 0 issues in saying that. But I just really 100% honestly do not get how people can bring such overly dramatic descriptions such as relating Geddy to a stroke victim to describe his singing the past few years

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And this is worth starting a new thread over? The same conversation is going on in other threads already.

 

nicky6, please stop filling up this forum with redundant threads. Thanks.

 

You should have a forum area just for the special people and neurotics.

 

Then again, the rest of the forum might be a bit empty...

 

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And this is worth starting a new thread over? The same conversation is going on in other threads already.

 

nicky6, please stop filling up this forum with redundant threads. Thanks.

 

You should have a forum area just for the special people and neurotics.

 

Then again, the rest of the forum might be a bit empty...

 

A sort of cyber white padded room.

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And this is worth starting a new thread over? The same conversation is going on in other threads already.

 

nicky6, please stop filling up this forum with redundant threads. Thanks.

 

You should have a forum area just for the special people and neurotics.

 

Then again, the rest of the forum might be a bit empty...

 

A sort of cyber white padded room.

 

 

Fraroc on his own with a pile of CDs by bands who are going to retire tomorrow.

Nicky6 in an echo chamber

Segue with his own hall of mirrors

 

The rest of you...locked in with me.

 

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

 

Listen to R40.

 

Geddy's voice is just fine

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

 

Listen to R40.

 

Geddy's voice is just fine

 

No it isn't.

At times it's so bad it is tragic. Lakeside Park :facepalm:

 

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And this is worth starting a new thread over? The same conversation is going on in other threads already.

 

nicky6, please stop filling up this forum with redundant threads. Thanks.

 

You should have a forum area just for the special people and neurotics.

 

Then again, the rest of the forum might be a bit empty...

 

A sort of cyber white padded room.

 

 

Fraroc on his own with a pile of CDs by bands who are going to retire tomorrow.

Nicky6 in an echo chamber

Segue with his own hall of mirrors

 

The rest of you...locked in with me.

Me thinks you wouldn.t last too long :smash:
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And this is worth starting a new thread over? The same conversation is going on in other threads already.

 

nicky6, please stop filling up this forum with redundant threads. Thanks.

 

You should have a forum area just for the special people and neurotics.

 

Then again, the rest of the forum might be a bit empty...

 

A sort of cyber white padded room.

 

 

Fraroc on his own with a pile of CDs by bands who are going to retire tomorrow.

Nicky6 in an echo chamber

Segue with his own hall of mirrors

 

The rest of you...locked in with me.

Me thinks you wouldn.t last too long :smash:

 

You'd be emptying my pissbucket.

 

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And this is worth starting a new thread over? The same conversation is going on in other threads already.

 

nicky6, please stop filling up this forum with redundant threads. Thanks.

 

You should have a forum area just for the special people and neurotics.

 

Then again, the rest of the forum might be a bit empty...

 

A sort of cyber white padded room.

 

 

Fraroc on his own with a pile of CDs by bands who are going to retire tomorrow.

Nicky6 in an echo chamber

Segue with his own hall of mirrors

 

The rest of you...locked in with me.

Me thinks you wouldn.t last too long :smash:

 

You'd be emptying my pissbucket.

Yup, right over your head :eh:
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And this is worth starting a new thread over? The same conversation is going on in other threads already.

 

nicky6, please stop filling up this forum with redundant threads. Thanks.

 

You should have a forum area just for the special people and neurotics.

 

Then again, the rest of the forum might be a bit empty...

 

A sort of cyber white padded room.

 

 

Fraroc on his own with a pile of CDs by bands who are going to retire tomorrow.

Nicky6 in an echo chamber

Segue with his own hall of mirrors

 

The rest of you...locked in with me.

Me thinks you wouldn.t last too long :smash:

 

You'd be emptying my pissbucket.

Yup, right over your head :eh:

 

:LOL:

 

But seriously...

 

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

 

Listen to R40.

 

Geddy's voice is just fine

 

No it isn't.

At times it's so bad it is tragic. Lakeside Park :facepalm:

 

 

When it came to the early 70s, he stopped being able to sing THAT high circa 1980. By the time the 80s rolled along, he was singing Temples way differently than he did in 1976.

 

It could be worse, he could sound like Ian Astbury, great studio singer but could never cut it live.

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

 

Listen to R40.

 

Geddy's voice is just fine

 

No it isn't.

At times it's so bad it is tragic. Lakeside Park :facepalm:

 

I do think you have to be a Rush fan to accept Geddy's voice these days I'm afraid. Rush fans are used to it; have a certain affection for it. Stepping back and listening more objectively, he yelps and howls through their classic tunes like a wounded labrador.

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

 

Listen to R40.

 

Geddy's voice is just fine

 

No it isn't.

At times it's so bad it is tragic. Lakeside Park :facepalm:

 

I do think you have to be a Rush fan to accept Geddy's voice these days I'm afraid. Rush fans are used to it; have a certain affection for it. Stepping back and listening more objectively, he yelps and howls through their classic tunes like a wounded labrador.

 

But he's NEVER EVER sang out of tune before. He may struggle to hit high notes, but he's always remained in tune. To say he sounds anywhere remotely near the level of "tone deaf" is pure f***ing garbage.

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

 

Listen to R40.

 

Geddy's voice is just fine

 

No it isn't.

At times it's so bad it is tragic. Lakeside Park :facepalm:

 

I do think you have to be a Rush fan to accept Geddy's voice these days I'm afraid. Rush fans are used to it; have a certain affection for it. Stepping back and listening more objectively, he yelps and howls through their classic tunes like a wounded labrador.

 

But he's NEVER EVER sang out of tune before. He may struggle to hit high notes, but he's always remained in tune. To say he sounds anywhere remotely near the level of "tone deaf" is pure f***ing garbage.

Yeah, he isn't David Lee Roth or anything

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

 

Listen to R40.

 

Geddy's voice is just fine

 

No it isn't.

At times it's so bad it is tragic. Lakeside Park :facepalm:

 

I do think you have to be a Rush fan to accept Geddy's voice these days I'm afraid. Rush fans are used to it; have a certain affection for it. Stepping back and listening more objectively, he yelps and howls through their classic tunes like a wounded labrador.

 

But he's NEVER EVER sang out of tune before. He may struggle to hit high notes, but he's always remained in tune. To say he sounds anywhere remotely near the level of "tone deaf" is pure f***ing garbage.

Yeah, he isn't David Lee Roth or anything

 

He's never quite sung out of tune but he's been slightly off pitch live in the past. (i.e. AFTKs on DS disc 3) He's actually gotten a lot better with that in the last 20 years or so.

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

Ged and Alex just left, we had them for Thanksgiving dinner...they are devastated by your decision! :)
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Preface: I hold a degree in vocal performance, and am a full-time choral director.

 

Good:

 

Geddy is holding up relatively well, considering that he may be suffering from vocal atrophy. Essentially the cells in his voice box, and muscular area are weakining, or may be damaged.

 

Bad:

 

Geddy sings as if he is young, and he needs to sing as if he is older. I'm not sure if he has worked with a vocal coach in recent times, but a few examples below will illustrate what i'm saying.

 

1. His middle/upper tessitura shouldn't sustain long notes anymore. Currently he holds out notes, and sings with that slower 'old person' vibrato. That needs to stop. He needs crisper ends of notes. He needs to pop the word, and decay. He lacks breath support as well since he's trying to sing all the way through the phrase. One example:

 

NOW

"A modern day warriorrrrrr mean mean striiiiihhhde, today's tom sawyer mean mean priiiihde"-

OR or "catch the MISSSSTT" or "catch the DRRRIIIFFFT"=no, sounds weaker and exposes all of his vocal weaknesses

 

Change it to. (commas=breath)

"A modern day warrior mean mean stride, today's tom sawyer, mean mean pride"-make ends of words in the text shorter, crisper

 

2. He MUST stop breaking into notes. Just listen to anything past Snakes and Arrows live, he breaks his voice into notes which can weaken his voice.

3. Any unneeded vocal 'noise' needs to stop. (Spirit of Radio in chorus, "oh yeahhh!", etc)

4. His intonation (tuning) isn't as accurate as it can be, because his voice is weak from doing all of the above. Listen to the intro of TS on Clockwork Angels,

he is an entire half-step low on the opening lines. So yes, he's singing out of tune in small places here and there. He is NOT tone deaf at all.

 

He is older, but he needs to take some vocal coaching. If he has one, he needs to find a new one. The last time I met him (CW tour) he barley spoke, saving his voice for the show. I'll enjoy him until the end, but he's getting older. That's OK with me.

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Ok, I love rush and will always be my fav band. But for me. things have to end and i'am not fooling myself anymore. They are done. But to me. the ending (at least for poor Geddys voice) was the end of the first leg of the snakes tour, he still sounded really good here. I feel there wasn't a need for all these 2 nd legs and clockwork angels tour could have been better vocally without a second leg and a much unNecessary time machine tour.. So, this lastest r40 dvd, I really wanted to like. I didn't. that horrible straining singing is atrosich...Just cant stand to hear it. Guy sounds like hes recovering from a stroke.. So, the fist leg of snakes and beyond a lighted stage is my final send off. I will always think of r30 as a great tour were Geddy still sounded reasonable. But I will always cherish my past tour bootlegs too..R.I.P. RUSH.. The only thing new I will buy from them unless its old shows from 1976-1997.. that's it...

 

Since Snakes tour we got rare gems-

Grand Designs

The Body Electric

Territories

Analog Kid

Marathon

 

Prelude

Presentation

Xanadu

Jacob

Anthem

what Youre Doing

Lakeside

 

His voice was better this tour. as we age, most of us can't do what we once did as well. That's life. Its still worth living. His singing on Ladder was excellent on R40.

 

 

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that horrible straining singing is atrosich...

 

 

"Wha-? What's this gotta' do with me?"

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