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I think there can be a big difference on what people say for the media than what they actually think.

Politicians for example...

 

Oh well sure, they're a typical example. But it's all about selling a product and sometimes that product is yourself.

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I think there can be a big difference on what people say for the media than what they actually think.

Politicians for example...

 

Oh well sure, they're a typical example. But it's all about selling a product and sometimes that product is yourself.

Life, daily... :)

 

Selling yourself to be clear...

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Hey, for what's it's worth, this has been my favorite thread these last few weeks. I dropped out of the spoilers after my first two shows on the first leg hoping for a bit of freshness on my final run. So, digging in this thread has provided me some reflection on our similarities and differences. Thanks everyone! Here we go, final leg!!!
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Retirement Insistence Crowd?

 

Sheesh.

 

Overthinking it a bit, I think.

 

I can only presume some folks are so fervent about denying probabilities based on hard evidence because they're afraid that somehow, some way, the band will be influenced by what fans are saying online.

 

LOL, rest assured, bannermen, that in no way does online opinion affect what the band does or doesn't do.

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So I'm curious have they actually said this is the final tour? Only last tour of this magnitude right? And the interviews have literally avoided stating that these are the final shows. So if Occam's Razor states the answer with the least assumptions is the correct answer than the correct answer is this isn't the end.

 

I personally have no idea, the world kind of works that way. The fact that anyone in here is saying they know for sure is pretty funny. But hey, when it's anonymous on the internet who cares what you say. Right, Bard?

 

With logic and basic reasoning of information while using the least amount of assumptions it seems to be no, this isn't the end. But at the end of the day anyone claiming to know anything for certain is probably the least correct.

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So I'm curious have they actually said this is the final tour? Only last tour of this magnitude right? And the interviews have literally avoided stating that these are the final shows. So if Occam's Razor states the answer with the least assumptions is the correct answer than the correct answer is this isn't the end.

 

I personally have no idea, the world kind of works that way. The fact that anyone in here is saying they know for sure is pretty funny. But hey, when it's anonymous on the internet who cares what you say. Right, Bard?

 

With logic and basic reasoning of information while using the least amount of assumptions it seems to be no, this isn't the end. But at the end of the day anyone claiming to know anything for certain is probably the least correct.

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank.

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So I'm curious have they actually said this is the final tour? Only last tour of this magnitude right? And the interviews have literally avoided stating that these are the final shows. So if Occam's Razor states the answer with the least assumptions is the correct answer than the correct answer is this isn't the end.

 

I personally have no idea, the world kind of works that way. The fact that anyone in here is saying they know for sure is pretty funny. But hey, when it's anonymous on the internet who cares what you say. Right, Bard?

 

With logic and basic reasoning of information while using the least amount of assumptions it seems to be no, this isn't the end. But at the end of the day anyone claiming to know anything for certain is probably the least correct.

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank.

So the bell tolls....sniff. Doesn't mean they won't cut another record
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So I'm curious have they actually said this is the final tour? Only last tour of this magnitude right? And the interviews have literally avoided stating that these are the final shows. So if Occam's Razor states the answer with the least assumptions is the correct answer than the correct answer is this isn't the end.

 

I personally have no idea, the world kind of works that way. The fact that anyone in here is saying they know for sure is pretty funny. But hey, when it's anonymous on the internet who cares what you say. Right, Bard?

 

With logic and basic reasoning of information while using the least amount of assumptions it seems to be no, this isn't the end. But at the end of the day anyone claiming to know anything for certain is probably the least correct.

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank.

So the bell tolls....sniff. Doesn't mean they won't cut another record

Another record or two is what I'm hopeful for.

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I've been on the fence with this subject for a while. I believe it comes out to a simple formula which Neil doesn't know the answer to yet.

 

If (Neil.homesick + Neil.physical_discomfort) > (Tour.money + Neil.drum_playing_enjoyment) then Tour.NoDice = true Else Tour.NoDice = false

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So I'm curious have they actually said this is the final tour? Only last tour of this magnitude right? And the interviews have literally avoided stating that these are the final shows. So if Occam's Razor states the answer with the least assumptions is the correct answer than the correct answer is this isn't the end.

 

I personally have no idea, the world kind of works that way. The fact that anyone in here is saying they know for sure is pretty funny. But hey, when it's anonymous on the internet who cares what you say. Right, Bard?

 

With logic and basic reasoning of information while using the least amount of assumptions it seems to be no, this isn't the end. But at the end of the day anyone claiming to know anything for certain is probably the least correct.

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank.

 

This still isn't official and can never be official, you understand that right?

 

I am pretty sure you don't work for the band I think it's your friends with someone who does? Even if you do it's still hearsay and that's why it can't be taken to the bank. Because you aren't Rush.

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So I'm curious have they actually said this is the final tour? Only last tour of this magnitude right? And the interviews have literally avoided stating that these are the final shows. So if Occam's Razor states the answer with the least assumptions is the correct answer than the correct answer is this isn't the end.

 

I personally have no idea, the world kind of works that way. The fact that anyone in here is saying they know for sure is pretty funny. But hey, when it's anonymous on the internet who cares what you say. Right, Bard?

 

With logic and basic reasoning of information while using the least amount of assumptions it seems to be no, this isn't the end. But at the end of the day anyone claiming to know anything for certain is probably the least correct.

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank.

 

This still isn't official and can never be official, you understand that right?

 

I am pretty sure you don't work for the band I think it's your friends with someone who does? Even if you do it's still hearsay and that's why it can't be taken to the bank. Because you aren't Rush.

Stage 1: Denial
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So I'm curious have they actually said this is the final tour? Only last tour of this magnitude right? And the interviews have literally avoided stating that these are the final shows. So if Occam's Razor states the answer with the least assumptions is the correct answer than the correct answer is this isn't the end.

 

I personally have no idea, the world kind of works that way. The fact that anyone in here is saying they know for sure is pretty funny. But hey, when it's anonymous on the internet who cares what you say. Right, Bard?

 

With logic and basic reasoning of information while using the least amount of assumptions it seems to be no, this isn't the end. But at the end of the day anyone claiming to know anything for certain is probably the least correct.

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank.

 

FOH, can you give us a hint?

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I don't know FOH personally, but I have communicated with him in the past. I don't recall any statement that he has made on this Forum that was off base or wildly incorrect. In fact I believe he does have a close connection to the band. I also don't think his statement about Neil Peart above is anything but logical and probable. I said earlier, if anything, there may be a one off show or couple of shows, but quite frankly they are going out on a winning note right now and after 40 years there is just NO need to do it any more.
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So I'm curious have they actually said this is the final tour? Only last tour of this magnitude right? And the interviews have literally avoided stating that these are the final shows. So if Occam's Razor states the answer with the least assumptions is the correct answer than the correct answer is this isn't the end.

 

I personally have no idea, the world kind of works that way. The fact that anyone in here is saying they know for sure is pretty funny. But hey, when it's anonymous on the internet who cares what you say. Right, Bard?

 

With logic and basic reasoning of information while using the least amount of assumptions it seems to be no, this isn't the end. But at the end of the day anyone claiming to know anything for certain is probably the least correct.

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank.

 

This still isn't official and can never be official, you understand that right?

 

I am pretty sure you don't work for the band I think it's your friends with someone who does? Even if you do it's still hearsay and that's why it can't be taken to the bank. Because you aren't Rush.

Stage 1: Denial

 

 

Maybe? But if August 1st was Rush's last show, I would not mind. I'm good with it, what a great tour it's been. I am just confused when the only official word is they don't know. Why are people who aren't the band pretending they know? That just seems really disrespectful to me. Really rude towards Geddy, Alex and Neil. When you make guesses about the world and the future you're supposed to use hard fact and the least assumptions. I'm doing that and the hard fact is they haven't said they are done and we don't know. People claiming to know the future without a doubt have already admitted they don't understand it.

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Complete speculation on my part, but perhaps it's only Neil who wants to retire and Geddy and Alex don't, and perhaps don't have a plan of what to say or do.

 

Well I think it was Geddy who said he doesn't want to announce a farewell, so I'm not expecting them too. So why are people on here like FOH Lights, who is supposedly "close to the band", not honoring those specific wishes. Rush want to keep it up in the air for a reason. It's so dumb that anyone can be like: "here's what they are going to do and there is no other way it can go" You just look like an idiot at the point, right?

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Neil wanted to quit playing live 26 years ago. Then of course the tragedies after the TFE tour. I don't think we should be the least bit shocked if he's decided that August 1st is it for him. The only thing that will surprise me is if he never officially says so. I don't agree with just blowing off fans who've supported you for 40 years like that. But then as we've seen, Neil is quite a different animal than most musicians. I unfortunately feel that everything is pointing to the answer of the original question of this thread (Will Rush add more shows TO THIS TOUR?) being a clear NO. The only remaining question after August 1st will be......what more WILL they do?
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I wouldn't be surprised if they never officially say it's over. I also wouldn't see it as blowing off fans, but more as not wanting to shut the door to any future possibilities. The last thing they'd want to do is say "we're finished" and then feel like they couldn't continue even if they wanted to several years later.
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Complete speculation on my part, but perhaps it's only Neil who wants to retire and Geddy and Alex don't, and perhaps don't have a plan of what to say or do.

 

Well I think it was Geddy who said he doesn't want to announce a farewell, so I'm not expecting them too. So why are people on here like FOH Lights, who is supposedly "close to the band", not honoring those specific wishes. Rush want to keep it up in the air for a reason. It's so dumb that anyone can be like: "here's what they are going to do and there is no other way it can go" You just look like an idiot at the point, right?

I can kind of understand your doubt. You're thinking, how can some schmuck on a public forum know/say things that the band themselves isn't, publicly? I've been around a lot this tour and the mindset backstage is one of finality. Geddy & Alex won't come right out and say it (I don't think it's their nature), but everyone knows that this is the end. The Emperor Peart has made it clear that after this tour, he's tapping out for good. And let's face it, without Neil, there is no Rush.

 

You don't know me so, it's cool if you have your doubts. Time will tell the tale.

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I'm going to try to get tickets to that one. I've never seen Mount Everest.

 

Be careful of saying things like that without a smiley emoticon. People are apt to think you are being serious. :eyeroll: :facepalm: :LOL:

 

I figured what I posted was so stupid no emoticon was necessary. :LOL: Who would buy tickets to see Rush just so they could see Mt. Everest? :laughing guy:

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Complete speculation on my part, but perhaps it's only Neil who wants to retire and Geddy and Alex don't, and perhaps don't have a plan of what to say or do.

 

Well I think it was Geddy who said he doesn't want to announce a farewell, so I'm not expecting them too. So why are people on here like FOH Lights, who is supposedly "close to the band", not honoring those specific wishes. Rush want to keep it up in the air for a reason. It's so dumb that anyone can be like: "here's what they are going to do and there is no other way it can go" You just look like an idiot at the point, right?

I can kind of understand your doubt. You're thinking, how can some schmuck on a public forum know/say things that the band themselves isn't, publicly? I've been around a lot this tour and the mindset backstage is one of finality. Geddy & Alex won't come right out and say it (I don't think it's their nature), but everyone knows that this is the end. The Emperor Peart has made it clear that after this tour, he's tapping out for good. And let's face it, without Neil, there is no Rush.

 

You don't know me so, it's cool if you have your doubts. Time will tell the tale.

 

Geddy already said in an interview right about the time the tour started that they would never say they were finished for good. I know I'm not the only one here that reads Rush interviews, am I? :laughing guy:

 

He's also said in an interview that he is bad at goodbyes.

 

As for the Emperor, I still say he has no clothes on, despite what everyone else thinks. ;) ;) :cool: :LOL:

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Complete speculation on my part, but perhaps it's only Neil who wants to retire and Geddy and Alex don't, and perhaps don't have a plan of what to say or do.

 

Well I think it was Geddy who said he doesn't want to announce a farewell, so I'm not expecting them too. So why are people on here like FOH Lights, who is supposedly "close to the band", not honoring those specific wishes. Rush want to keep it up in the air for a reason. It's so dumb that anyone can be like: "here's what they are going to do and there is no other way it can go" You just look like an idiot at the point, right?

I can kind of understand your doubt. You're thinking, how can some schmuck on a public forum know/say things that the band themselves isn't, publicly? I've been around a lot this tour and the mindset backstage is one of finality. Geddy & Alex won't come right out and say it (I don't think it's their nature), but everyone knows that this is the end. The Emperor Peart has made it clear that after this tour, he's tapping out for good. And let's face it, without Neil, there is no Rush.

 

You don't know me so, it's cool if you have your doubts. Time will tell the tale.

 

Whether you're right or not is kind of irrelevant to the statements in that post.

 

So when you say they are done, do you mind Rush will never have another album? Also will they never play again as a band again in any capacity? Genuinely curious.

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I'm going to try to get tickets to that one. I've never seen Mount Everest.

 

Be careful of saying things like that without a smiley emoticon. People are apt to think you are being serious. :eyeroll: :facepalm: :LOL:

 

I figured what I posted was so stupid no emoticon was necessary. :LOL: Who would buy tickets to see Rush just so they could see Mt. Everest? :laughing guy:

 

Oh, I don't know, I've posted things I thought were obvious jokes as well (in this forum too, in fact) that people still managed to take seriously. It's really quite astonishing.

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Complete speculation on my part, but perhaps it's only Neil who wants to retire and Geddy and Alex don't, and perhaps don't have a plan of what to say or do.

 

Well I think it was Geddy who said he doesn't want to announce a farewell, so I'm not expecting them too. So why are people on here like FOH Lights, who is supposedly "close to the band", not honoring those specific wishes. Rush want to keep it up in the air for a reason. It's so dumb that anyone can be like: "here's what they are going to do and there is no other way it can go" You just look like an idiot at the point, right?

I can kind of understand your doubt. You're thinking, how can some schmuck on a public forum know/say things that the band themselves isn't, publicly? I've been around a lot this tour and the mindset backstage is one of finality. Geddy & Alex won't come right out and say it (I don't think it's their nature), but everyone knows that this is the end. The Emperor Peart has made it clear that after this tour, he's tapping out for good. And let's face it, without Neil, there is no Rush.

 

You don't know me so, it's cool if you have your doubts. Time will tell the tale.

 

Whether you're right or not is kind of irrelevant to the statements in that post.

 

So when you say they are done, do you mind Rush will never have another album? Also will they never play again as a band again in any capacity? Genuinely curious.

What I've said is that Neil will never tour again. So, "Rush" as you know them, are done touring. Who knows if Geddy & Alex will keep on writing or ever produce anything together? IMO, based on the physical toll that years of playing/touring has had on them, and the fact that they've been enjoying their time off more than ever lately, I can't see them doing anything too big or time consuming, if at all. Traveling with family & friends, and finally enjoying a pressure/worry free life sounds like a lot more fun... don't you think?

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