The Cat 3 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 "Hemispheres" edges out "Close to the Edge". I had to take my time with this one to make sure my opinion wasn't a biased one as a bigger a Rush fan that I am of Yes. "Close to the Edge" is a brilliant album. I'd really struggle if we were talking about "Fragile". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) I think what really grinds my gears is the whole attitude that just because you love or are part of a clique that loves an album, it gives you the right to imply you are somehow smarter, more intellectual or open minded than other listeners who disagree. CA getting shoved down my throat because I happen to like other Rush albums more got under my skin, as does the whole "you don't get it because its METAL!" nonsense. Sorry, but metal isn't dead, its alive and burning with passion and invention, and the likes of Clockwork Angels might be a great achievement for the Rush of today, but for the genre it is not close to being a peak example. Compared to the likes of Mastodon, who write tremendous melodic metal with memorable melodies AND ginormous riffs, CA is quaint. Sure, it could be argued I am now doing the same thing AGAINST this album, but play it against CTTE or Hems. Sure, CA is the modern release, but it doesn't come close to matching the impact or grandeur of seventies releases, and it honestly sounds less metal, and less outrageously inventive, than Hemispheres. Clockwork Angels to my ears is a great example of modern Rush, and the band deserve to be proud. But in thirty or forty years, if prog is still alive and well in the hearts of music fans, I sorely doubt CA will be remembered when the millennium already boasts countless genre defining prog metal behomoths doing wonders for the continual evolution and diversity of this complex and ever expanding form of music. CA metal? Maybe, but contrast it with Opeth, Mastodon, Haken, Von Hertzen Brothers, Porcupine Tree etc. It doesn't stand out as tall and confident against its peers the way Hemispheres could back in its day. Hemispheres and Close To The Edge are two absolutely magnificent achievements, but more importantly, they are genre milestones (and one could argue that Hems is commercially and critically overshadowed by at least two other Rush efforts). CA? Fanboys aside, most seem to admire the modern passion, but on the whole music fans still flock to the groundbreaking oldies. But CA deserves the love, but ultimately, years from now, the hype will be long forgotten and like the run of albums before it, some lauded others scoffed over, it will be overshadowed. Edited June 17, 2015 by Segue Myles 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 "Hemispheres" edges out "Close to the Edge". I had to take my time with this one to make sure my opinion wasn't a biased one as a bigger a Rush fan that I am of Yes. "Close to the Edge" is a brilliant album. I'd really struggle if we were talking about "Fragile".Another brilliant one but in a bit different way. CTTE and Going For The One (Awaken in particular) just hit me where I live in some spiritual way... :) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 And on the lighter side, someone started yet another thread announcing to us that Rush is on the cover of Rolling Stone. Have no fear though. Zumbi gave him the whatsfor for starting it. :) :clap: :clap: :clap: ;) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) I think what really grinds my gears is the whole attitude that just because you love or are part of a clique that loves an album, it gives you the right to imply you are somehow smarter, more intellectual or open minded than other listeners who disagree. CA getting shoved down my throat because I happen to like other Rush albums more got under my skin, as does the whole "you don't get it because its METAL!" nonsense. Sorry, but metal isn't dead, its alive and burning with passion and invention, and the likes of Clockwork Angels might be a great achievement for the Rush of today, but for the genre it is not close to being a peak example. Compared to the likes of Mastodon, who write tremendous melodic metal with memorable melodies AND ginormous riffs, CA is quaint. Sure, it could be argued I am now doing the same thing AGAINST this album, but play it against CTTE or Hems. Sure, CA is the modern release, but it doesn't come close to matching the impact or grandeur of seventies releases, and it honestly sounds less metal, and less outrageously inventive, than Hemispheres. Clockwork Angels to my ears is a great example of modern Rush, and the band deserve to be proud. But in thirty or forty years, if prog is still alive and well in the hearts of music fans, I sorely doubt CA will be remembered when the millennium already boasts countless genre defining prog metal behomoths doing wonders for the continual evolution and diversity of this complex and ever expanding form of music. CA metal? Maybe, but contrast it with Opeth, Mastodon, Haken, Von Hertzen Brothers, Porcupine Tree etc. It doesn't stand out as tall and confident against its peers the way Hemispheres could back in its day. Hemispheres and Close To The Edge are two absolutely magnificent achievements, but more importantly, they are genre milestones (and one could argue that Hems is commercially and critically overshadowed by at least two other Rush efforts). CA? Fanboys aside, most seem to admire the modern passion, but on the whole music fans still flock to the groundbreaking oldies. But CA deserves the love, but ultimately, years from now, the hype will be long forgotten and like the run of albums before it, some lauded others scoffed over, it will be overshadowed. "Liked" not because I agree with everything you said, but in staunch defense of your (or anyone's) right to express a respectful opinion. Well done. Edited June 17, 2015 by Blue J 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think what really grinds my gears is the whole attitude that just because you love or are part of a clique that loves an album, it gives you the right to imply you are somehow smarter, more intellectual or open minded than other listeners who disagree. CA getting shoved down my throat because I happen to like other Rush albums more got under my skin, as does the whole "you don't get it because its METAL!" nonsense. Sorry, but metal isn't dead, its alive and burning with passion and invention, and the likes of Clockwork Angels might be a great achievement for the Rush of today, but for the genre it is not close to being a peak example. Compared to the likes of Mastodon, who write tremendous melodic metal with memorable melodies AND ginormous riffs, CA is quaint. Sure, it could be argued I am now doing the same thing AGAINST this album, but play it against CTTE or Hems. Sure, CA is the modern release, but it doesn't come close to matching the impact or grandeur of seventies releases, and it honestly sounds less metal, and less outrageously inventive, than Hemispheres. Clockwork Angels to my ears is a great example of modern Rush, and the band deserve to be proud. But in thirty or forty years, if prog is still alive and well in the hearts of music fans, I sorely doubt CA will be remembered when the millennium already boasts countless genre defining prog metal behomoths doing wonders for the continual evolution and diversity of this complex and ever expanding form of music. CA metal? Maybe, but contrast it with Opeth, Mastodon, Haken, Von Hertzen Brothers, Porcupine Tree etc. It doesn't stand out as tall and confident against its peers the way Hemispheres could back in its day. Hemispheres and Close To The Edge are two absolutely magnificent achievements, but more importantly, they are genre milestones (and one could argue that Hems is commercially and critically overshadowed by at least two other Rush efforts). CA? Fanboys aside, most seem to admire the modern passion, but on the whole music fans still flock to the groundbreaking oldies. But CA deserves the love, but ultimately, years from now, the hype will be long forgotten and like the run of albums before it, some lauded others scoffed over, it will be overshadowed. "Liked" not because I agree with everything you said, but in staunch defense of your (or anyone's) right to express a respectful opinion. Well done. Thank you! Discussion doesn't mean always having to agree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Holy f**k this is a hard poll.Hemispheres by an atom. An incredible pairing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Good night everyone! :hi: Edited June 17, 2015 by Lorraine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think what really grinds my gears is the whole attitude that just because you love or are part of a clique that loves an album, it gives you the right to imply you are somehow smarter, more intellectual or open minded than other listeners who disagree. Keep in mind we are equally intelligent because we both love Springsteen. Oh wait, scratch that, I'm smarter because I love Queen and you don't. Sorry, I couldn't help myself! :) Seriously, we are all here because of our love for Rush. Other bands and music are in the ear of the beholder. You rock Segue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Good night everyone! :hi::hi: ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Good night everyone! :hi: Sweet Rush dreams Lorraine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think what really grinds my gears is the whole attitude that just because you love or are part of a clique that loves an album, it gives you the right to imply you are somehow smarter, more intellectual or open minded than other listeners who disagree. Keep in mind we are equally intelligent because we both love Springsteen. Oh wait, scratch that, I'm smarter because I love Queen and you don't. Sorry, I couldn't help myself! :) Seriously, we are all here because of our love for Rush. Other bands and music are in the ear of the beholder. You rock Segue! Queen won me over a little with Innuendo... SPRINGSTEEN FTW! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think what really grinds my gears is the whole attitude that just because you love or are part of a clique that loves an album, it gives you the right to imply you are somehow smarter, more intellectual or open minded than other listeners who disagree. CA getting shoved down my throat because I happen to like other Rush albums more got under my skin, as does the whole "you don't get it because its METAL!" nonsense. Sorry, but metal isn't dead, its alive and burning with passion and invention, and the likes of Clockwork Angels might be a great achievement for the Rush of today, but for the genre it is not close to being a peak example. Compared to the likes of Mastodon, who write tremendous melodic metal with memorable melodies AND ginormous riffs, CA is quaint. Sure, it could be argued I am now doing the same thing AGAINST this album, but play it against CTTE or Hems. Sure, CA is the modern release, but it doesn't come close to matching the impact or grandeur of seventies releases, and it honestly sounds less metal, and less outrageously inventive, than Hemispheres. Clockwork Angels to my ears is a great example of modern Rush, and the band deserve to be proud. But in thirty or forty years, if prog is still alive and well in the hearts of music fans, I sorely doubt CA will be remembered when the millennium already boasts countless genre defining prog metal behomoths doing wonders for the continual evolution and diversity of this complex and ever expanding form of music. CA metal? Maybe, but contrast it with Opeth, Mastodon, Haken, Von Hertzen Brothers, Porcupine Tree etc. It doesn't stand out as tall and confident against its peers the way Hemispheres could back in its day. Hemispheres and Close To The Edge are two absolutely magnificent achievements, but more importantly, they are genre milestones (and one could argue that Hems is commercially and critically overshadowed by at least two other Rush efforts). CA? Fanboys aside, most seem to admire the modern passion, but on the whole music fans still flock to the groundbreaking oldies. But CA deserves the love, but ultimately, years from now, the hype will be long forgotten and like the run of albums before it, some lauded others scoffed over, it will be overshadowed. Take note........THIS is music discussion people. just save this post fanboi's. Well done my brother. Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think what really grinds my gears is the whole attitude that just because you love or are part of a clique that loves an album, it gives you the right to imply you are somehow smarter, more intellectual or open minded than other listeners who disagree. CA getting shoved down my throat because I happen to like other Rush albums more got under my skin, as does the whole "you don't get it because its METAL!" nonsense. Sorry, but metal isn't dead, its alive and burning with passion and invention, and the likes of Clockwork Angels might be a great achievement for the Rush of today, but for the genre it is not close to being a peak example. Compared to the likes of Mastodon, who write tremendous melodic metal with memorable melodies AND ginormous riffs, CA is quaint. Sure, it could be argued I am now doing the same thing AGAINST this album, but play it against CTTE or Hems. Sure, CA is the modern release, but it doesn't come close to matching the impact or grandeur of seventies releases, and it honestly sounds less metal, and less outrageously inventive, than Hemispheres. Clockwork Angels to my ears is a great example of modern Rush, and the band deserve to be proud. But in thirty or forty years, if prog is still alive and well in the hearts of music fans, I sorely doubt CA will be remembered when the millennium already boasts countless genre defining prog metal behomoths doing wonders for the continual evolution and diversity of this complex and ever expanding form of music. CA metal? Maybe, but contrast it with Opeth, Mastodon, Haken, Von Hertzen Brothers, Porcupine Tree etc. It doesn't stand out as tall and confident against its peers the way Hemispheres could back in its day. Hemispheres and Close To The Edge are two absolutely magnificent achievements, but more importantly, they are genre milestones (and one could argue that Hems is commercially and critically overshadowed by at least two other Rush efforts). CA? Fanboys aside, most seem to admire the modern passion, but on the whole music fans still flock to the groundbreaking oldies. But CA deserves the love, but ultimately, years from now, the hype will be long forgotten and like the run of albums before it, some lauded others scoffed over, it will be overshadowed. Take note........THIS is music discussion people. just save this post fanboi's. Well done my brother. Mick Thank you! It's about time we all get back to broad minded discussion. We all love Rush, about time some of us remembered that! Plus, I love to ramble...no one has to read it lol! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vital signz Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I gotta go with Hemispheres. It is literally perfection. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I gotta go with Hemispheres. It is literally perfection. Your sig is amazing! Who did that picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vital signz Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I gotta go with Hemispheres. It is literally perfection. Your sig is amazing! Who did that picture? Thanks! I literally stumbled upon it while googling articles recently on the band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip65 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Hemispheres for me. However, if you had asked about Going for the One, it would have been a harder decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I dont find it so odd to have Hemi in the lead on a Rush site. Ask on a Yes site you may get a different response. The correct response!! ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I dont find it so odd to have Hemi in the lead on a Rush site. Ask on a Yes site you may get a different response. The correct response!! ;) Are you saying Rush fans can't be objective? :o ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Hemispheres for me. However, if you had asked about Going for the One, it would have been a harder decision.:cheers: Well played and excellent taste obviously... :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Both of these albums hold special places for me There are sections of "Close To The Edge" and "And You And I" that bring some very significant emotions out for me - Rick Wakeman is absolutely brilliant and creates perfect counterpoint to the chaotic genius in these songs ... What I love about YES - one of the many things - is how they can be so technically incredible yet still be so grounded and stir meaningful emotions - they are all fantastic, and I say that not from a technical standpoint, but brilliance in creating those visuals with their chops and instruments ..... But there will always be a 12 year old in me who just f***ing loves Geddy and feels the joy of adolescent testosterone when RUSH rocks And they wonder why the maples can't be happy in their shade HEMISPHERES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuesday's Gone Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 There's no comparison. CTTE blows Hemispheres right off the planet. It doesn't even come close to CTTE. I saw the results of this poll and I was amazed by the results considering that this is a forum of Rush fans. I therefore decided to listen to CTTE, having never heard anything by Yes. I was absolutely blown away by this album, the music is absolutely unique, complex and so beautiful . Given the complexity of the music, I think I'll like it even more after a few listens. I definitely like it more than Hemispheres although it's completely different. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket ignites Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I find Yes to be terribly overrated. Not a popular opinion here, I know. Actually, an unpopular opinion would have been for you to say that you find Rush overrated. Rush are on the cover of Rolling Stone, of course they are overrated! ;) :LOLsign: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 There's no comparison. CTTE blows Hemispheres right off the planet. It doesn't even come close to CTTE. I saw the results of this poll and I was amazed by the results considering that this is a forum of Rush fans. I therefore decided to listen to CTTE, having never heard anything by Yes. I was absolutely blown away by this album, the music is absolutely unique, complex and so beautiful . Given the complexity of the music, I think I'll like it even more after a few listens. I definitely like it more than Hemispheres although it's completely different. It is true it is completely different from Hemispheres, and in a sense, it's not fair to compare the two, but if I had to choose, it would always be CTTE. As I said, no comparison. Hemispheres pales next to it. I'm sure Rush would agree with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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