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  1. 1. Which is better?

    • Clockwork Angels
    • A Farewell To Kings


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I think Natural Science is one of the only Rush songs that I like better on the album than when they do it in concert. :unsure:

 

What does this have to do with AFTK and CA?

 

Nothing. :)

 

What about Digital Man, too?

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They changed so much throughout the decades.

 

They certainly did.

 

Knowing you as I do, I can "hear" just the way you meant that. :LOL: :lol: :LOL:

 

Haha! I can, too.

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I think Natural Science is one of the only Rush songs that I like better on the album than when they do it in concert. :unsure:

 

What does this have to do with AFTK and CA?

 

Nothing. :)

 

What about Digital Man, too?

 

I have a bootleg with a good version of that song on it. I'll check and let you know later which one it is.

 

I was going to resurrect my Digital Man poll thread. Just love that song!! :wub:

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I think Natural Science is one of the only Rush songs that I like better on the album than when they do it in concert. :unsure:

 

What does this have to do with AFTK and CA?

 

Nothing. :)

 

What about Digital Man, too?

 

I have a bootleg with a good version of that song on it. I'll check and let you know later which one it is.

 

I was going to resurrect my Digital Man poll thread. Just love that song!! :wub:

 

Yes, I'd love to know which show it is.

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AFTK loses to CA. The amount of epic tracks on CA puts it on top.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B

Caravan

Wish Them Well

 

How are any of these more epic than A Farewell To Kings, Xanadu or Cygnus X-1?

 

As for CA's title track and Headlong Flight, how are they more epic than Xanadu alone?

 

As for songs like Carnies, The Wreckers, BU2B2 or The Garden, how can they top songs as classic and timeless as Cinderella Man, or Closer To The Heart?

 

And as a segue to the next track, come on, their is now way that BU2B2 tops Madrigal?

 

Seriously, there is absolutely NOTHING on CA that outdoes AFTK.

 

You go well overboard with CA, and when it comes to the greatness of AFTK, so do I!

Ok cupcake boy. Here's my response.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B--close to being bold

Caravan

Wish Them Well

Headlong Flight

Clockwork Angels

 

Bolded because they're all time classic tracks.

 

The rest are merely good to real good. Fantastic songwriting. As I said, AFTK is a great album, Clockwork Angels simply has an overabundance of greatness. It has several mini-epics.

 

Interesting how you don't address the greatness of Caravan. A sizzling track.

Carnies, Halo Effect, are less than equal to Cinderella Man?

You dismiss The Garden as being inferior to CTTH? Whatever man. These things are self-evident. If you can't see it for yourself, no one can really help you.

 

Maybe Dr. Cooper can...maybe. If you get on his good side

 

I have to say, when it comes to CA we have the same favourite songs!

 

Afraid that I prefer every song on AFTK to CA, and thats that. OK whatever dude. Jam away at your leisure

 

My surprise came, not from your favouring CA, but from the use of the word Epic. The entirety of the album is epic. And they're are mini epic songs on the album. We just had a poll confirm that

 

Was gobsmacked, because, just in my opinion, not one song comes close to the epic grandeur of AFTK. AFTK is a collection of songs. They don't tie in to one another. With Clockwork Angels they all relate to one another. Not one song comes close? they shouldn't. It's not AFTK's it's a different record altogether.

 

And as for the shorter songs on AFTK, they carrt a weight, a vibe, that just isn't their on CA, or any other album to be exact. We can debate that...each album has it's own vibe. The vibe of CA carries a vibe that is unmistakable. I prefer it to AFTK. I don't want Rush albums to sound the same...that is a common wish here. Part of the allure of CA comes from the sound. Which many people complain to the point of sounding like their wussy ears can't handle even listening to great songs.

 

It's chum

 

I am truly stunned anyone can think otherwise, but bear in mind your taking moderate offense to my tone is exactly the sort of feeling others get with the way you post at times. I really don't care what THOSE (and yes they can be narrowed down to a few) people think. Really not offended by your tone. I know your a young person trying to make sense out of life. When you strike it out on your own, things will change for you in terms of perception of reality.

 

I don't know if you realise it, but the way I responded to you is exactly how I HATE to come across. But you do. All the time. I love your touchy feely times.

 

And I don't need any gang to come forward to back me up either. Ahhh but you have a few don't you? We all have people that we tend to follow and who do likewise

 

And I don't namedrop. This is getting like the Treeduck thread

 

In fact, I was more stunned by your reaction to my post considering, than I was to your opinion on AFTK. It's boring me

 

But...the whole purpose of these threads is for us who see CA differently to analyze where exactly CA fits in the overall view of the bands discography. We can disagree, which we all do (tastes are different after all), but I must say I am quite impressed by how strong the devotion towards CA is against these early albums.

 

Our clashing aside, this is a real eye opener for me. And believe me, there will come a time when only 1 album in two decades gets picked over CA.

Thanks for your insight. It's so deep

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AFTK loses to CA. The amount of epic tracks on CA puts it on top.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B

Caravan

Wish Them Well

 

How are any of these more epic than A Farewell To Kings, Xanadu or Cygnus X-1?

 

As for CA's title track and Headlong Flight, how are they more epic than Xanadu alone?

 

As for songs like Carnies, The Wreckers, BU2B2 or The Garden, how can they top songs as classic and timeless as Cinderella Man, or Closer To The Heart?

 

And as a segue to the next track, come on, their is now way that BU2B2 tops Madrigal?

 

Seriously, there is absolutely NOTHING on CA that outdoes AFTK.

 

You go well overboard with CA, and when it comes to the greatness of AFTK, so do I!

Ok cupcake boy. Here's my response.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B--close to being bold

Caravan

Wish Them Well

Headlong Flight

Clockwork Angels

 

Bolded because they're all time classic tracks.

 

The rest are merely good to real good. Fantastic songwriting. As I said, AFTK is a great album, Clockwork Angels simply has an overabundance of greatness. It has several mini-epics.

 

Interesting how you don't address the greatness of Caravan. A sizzling track.

Carnies, Halo Effect, are less than equal to Cinderella Man?

You dismiss The Garden as being inferior to CTTH? Whatever man. These things are self-evident. If you can't see it for yourself, no one can really help you.

 

Maybe Dr. Cooper can...maybe. If you get on his good side

 

I have to say, when it comes to CA we have the same favourite songs!

 

Afraid that I prefer every song on AFTK to CA, and thats that. OK whatever dude. Jam away at your leisure

 

My surprise came, not from your favouring CA, but from the use of the word Epic. The entirety of the album is epic. And they're are mini epic songs on the album. We just had a poll confirm that

 

Was gobsmacked, because, just in my opinion, not one song comes close to the epic grandeur of AFTK. AFTK is a collection of songs. They don't tie in to one another. With Clockwork Angels they all relate to one another. Don't rant about the book. Keep it out of the conversation

 

And as for the shorter songs on AFTK, they carrt a weight, a vibe, that just isn't their on CA, or any other album to be exact. We can debate that...each album has it's own vibe. The vibe of CA carries a vibe that is unmistakable. I prefer it to AFTK. I don't want Rush albums to sound the same...that is a common wish here. Part of the allure of CA comes from the sound. Which many people complain to the point of sounding like their wussy ears can't handle even listening to great songs.

 

It's chum

 

I am truly stunned anyone can think otherwise, but bear in mind your taking moderate offense to my tone is exactly the sort of feeling others get with the way you post at times. I really don't care what THOSE (and yes they can be narrowed down to a few) people think. Really not offended by your tone. I know your a young person trying to make sense out of life. When you strike it out on your own, things will change for you in terms of perception of reality.

 

I don't know if you realise it, but the way I responded to you is exactly how I HATE to come across. But you do. All the time. I love your touchy feely times.

 

And I don't need any gang to come forward to back me up either. Ahhh but you have a few don't you? We all have people that we tend to follow and who do likewise

 

And I don't namedrop. This is getting like the Treeduck thread

 

In fact, I was more stunned by your reaction to my post considering, than I was to your opinion on AFTK. It's boring me

 

But...the whole purpose of these threads is for us who see CA differently to analyze where exactly CA fits in the overall view of the bands discography. We can disagree, which we all do (tastes are different after all), but I must say I am quite impressed by how strong the devotion towards CA is against these early albums.

 

Our clashing aside, this is a real eye opener for me. And believe me, there will come a time when only 1 album in two decades gets picked over CA.

Thanks for your insight. It's so deep

 

I am so butthurt.

 

Seriously, I got piles sitting here overthinking just how much I don't care for your tone.

 

I respect your opinion, I don't respect your attitude towards me. Which is sad because its turning me into a bit of a git.

 

Regardless of how eloquently or not my points are brought across, the fact of the matter is they are MY opinions and no amount of your provocation causing me to come across as such a meanie will change my view.

 

Others agree with you, but express themselves far more kindly.

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AFTK loses to CA. The amount of epic tracks on CA puts it on top.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B

Caravan

Wish Them Well

 

How are any of these more epic than A Farewell To Kings, Xanadu or Cygnus X-1?

 

As for CA's title track and Headlong Flight, how are they more epic than Xanadu alone?

 

As for songs like Carnies, The Wreckers, BU2B2 or The Garden, how can they top songs as classic and timeless as Cinderella Man, or Closer To The Heart?

 

And as a segue to the next track, come on, their is now way that BU2B2 tops Madrigal?

 

Seriously, there is absolutely NOTHING on CA that outdoes AFTK.

 

You go well overboard with CA, and when it comes to the greatness of AFTK, so do I!

Ok cupcake boy. Here's my response.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B--close to being bold

Caravan

Wish Them Well

Headlong Flight

Clockwork Angels

 

Bolded because they're all time classic tracks.

 

The rest are merely good to real good. Fantastic songwriting. As I said, AFTK is a great album, Clockwork Angels simply has an overabundance of greatness. It has several mini-epics.

 

Interesting how you don't address the greatness of Caravan. A sizzling track.

Carnies, Halo Effect, are less than equal to Cinderella Man?

You dismiss The Garden as being inferior to CTTH? Whatever man. These things are self-evident. If you can't see it for yourself, no one can really help you.

 

Maybe Dr. Cooper can...maybe. If you get on his good side

 

I have to say, when it comes to CA we have the same favourite songs!

 

Afraid that I prefer every song on AFTK to CA, and thats that. OK whatever dude. Jam away at your leisure

 

My surprise came, not from your favouring CA, but from the use of the word Epic. The entirety of the album is epic. And they're are mini epic songs on the album. We just had a poll confirm that

 

Was gobsmacked, because, just in my opinion, not one song comes close to the epic grandeur of AFTK. AFTK is a collection of songs. They don't tie in to one another. With Clockwork Angels they all relate to one another. Don't rant about the book. Keep it out of the conversation

 

And as for the shorter songs on AFTK, they carrt a weight, a vibe, that just isn't their on CA, or any other album to be exact. We can debate that...each album has it's own vibe. The vibe of CA carries a vibe that is unmistakable. I prefer it to AFTK. I don't want Rush albums to sound the same...that is a common wish here. Part of the allure of CA comes from the sound. Which many people complain to the point of sounding like their wussy ears can't handle even listening to great songs.

 

It's chum

 

I am truly stunned anyone can think otherwise, but bear in mind your taking moderate offense to my tone is exactly the sort of feeling others get with the way you post at times. I really don't care what THOSE (and yes they can be narrowed down to a few) people think. Really not offended by your tone. I know your a young person trying to make sense out of life. When you strike it out on your own, things will change for you in terms of perception of reality.

 

I don't know if you realise it, but the way I responded to you is exactly how I HATE to come across. But you do. All the time. I love your touchy feely times.

 

And I don't need any gang to come forward to back me up either. Ahhh but you have a few don't you? We all have people that we tend to follow and who do likewise

 

And I don't namedrop. This is getting like the Treeduck thread

 

In fact, I was more stunned by your reaction to my post considering, than I was to your opinion on AFTK. It's boring me

 

But...the whole purpose of these threads is for us who see CA differently to analyze where exactly CA fits in the overall view of the bands discography. We can disagree, which we all do (tastes are different after all), but I must say I am quite impressed by how strong the devotion towards CA is against these early albums.

 

Our clashing aside, this is a real eye opener for me. And believe me, there will come a time when only 1 album in two decades gets picked over CA.

Thanks for your insight. It's so deep

 

I am so butthurt.

 

Seriously, I got piles sitting here overthinking just how much I don't care for your tone.

 

I respect your opinion, I don't respect your attitude towards me. Which is sad because its turning me into a bit of a git.

 

Regardless of how eloquently or not my points are brought across, the fact of the matter is they are MY opinions and no amount of your provocation causing me to come across as such a meanie will change my view.

 

Others agree with you, but express themselves far more kindly.

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AFTK loses to CA. The amount of epic tracks on CA puts it on top.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B

Caravan

Wish Them Well

 

How are any of these more epic than A Farewell To Kings, Xanadu or Cygnus X-1?

 

As for CA's title track and Headlong Flight, how are they more epic than Xanadu alone?

 

As for songs like Carnies, The Wreckers, BU2B2 or The Garden, how can they top songs as classic and timeless as Cinderella Man, or Closer To The Heart?

 

And as a segue to the next track, come on, their is now way that BU2B2 tops Madrigal?

 

Seriously, there is absolutely NOTHING on CA that outdoes AFTK.

 

You go well overboard with CA, and when it comes to the greatness of AFTK, so do I!

Ok cupcake boy. Here's my response.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B--close to being bold

Caravan

Wish Them Well

Headlong Flight

Clockwork Angels

 

Bolded because they're all time classic tracks.

 

The rest are merely good to real good. Fantastic songwriting. As I said, AFTK is a great album, Clockwork Angels simply has an overabundance of greatness. It has several mini-epics.

 

Interesting how you don't address the greatness of Caravan. A sizzling track.

Carnies, Halo Effect, are less than equal to Cinderella Man?

You dismiss The Garden as being inferior to CTTH? Whatever man. These things are self-evident. If you can't see it for yourself, no one can really help you.

 

Maybe Dr. Cooper can...maybe. If you get on his good side

 

I have to say, when it comes to CA we have the same favourite songs!

 

Afraid that I prefer every song on AFTK to CA, and thats that. OK whatever dude. Jam away at your leisure

 

My surprise came, not from your favouring CA, but from the use of the word Epic. The entirety of the album is epic. And they're are mini epic songs on the album. We just had a poll confirm that

 

Was gobsmacked, because, just in my opinion, not one song comes close to the epic grandeur of AFTK. AFTK is a collection of songs. They don't tie in to one another. With Clockwork Angels they all relate to one another. Don't rant about the book. Keep it out of the conversation

 

And as for the shorter songs on AFTK, they carrt a weight, a vibe, that just isn't their on CA, or any other album to be exact. We can debate that...each album has it's own vibe. The vibe of CA carries a vibe that is unmistakable. I prefer it to AFTK. I don't want Rush albums to sound the same...that is a common wish here. Part of the allure of CA comes from the sound. Which many people complain to the point of sounding like their wussy ears can't handle even listening to great songs.

 

It's chum

 

I am truly stunned anyone can think otherwise, but bear in mind your taking moderate offense to my tone is exactly the sort of feeling others get with the way you post at times. I really don't care what THOSE (and yes they can be narrowed down to a few) people think. Really not offended by your tone. I know your a young person trying to make sense out of life. When you strike it out on your own, things will change for you in terms of perception of reality.

 

I don't know if you realise it, but the way I responded to you is exactly how I HATE to come across. But you do. All the time. I love your touchy feely times.

 

And I don't need any gang to come forward to back me up either. Ahhh but you have a few don't you? We all have people that we tend to follow and who do likewise

 

And I don't namedrop. This is getting like the Treeduck thread

 

In fact, I was more stunned by your reaction to my post considering, than I was to your opinion on AFTK. It's boring me

 

But...the whole purpose of these threads is for us who see CA differently to analyze where exactly CA fits in the overall view of the bands discography. We can disagree, which we all do (tastes are different after all), but I must say I am quite impressed by how strong the devotion towards CA is against these early albums.

 

Our clashing aside, this is a real eye opener for me. And believe me, there will come a time when only 1 album in two decades gets picked over CA.

Thanks for your insight. It's so deep

 

I am so butthurt.

 

Seriously, I got piles sitting here overthinking just how much I don't care for your tone.

 

I respect your opinion, I don't respect your attitude towards me. Which is sad because its turning me into a bit of a git.

 

Regardless of how eloquently or not my points are brought across, the fact of the matter is they are MY opinions and no amount of your provocation causing me to come across as such a meanie will change my view.

 

Others agree with you, but express themselves far more kindly.

It takes all kinds to make the world go round

 

I'm over this.

 

I will keep my good impression of you based on our brief face to face chat, but on this forum I may have to temporarily keep my distance from you.

 

You love CA all you want, I don't care.

 

But I cannot talk like this on a forum any longer.

 

And I will admit my overreaction to you is possibly a sign of immaturity.

 

It takes a man to admit his mistakes.

 

But never mind, I am just a Cupcake Boy.

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I think Natural Science is one of the only Rush songs that I like better on the album than when they do it in concert. :unsure:

 

What does this have to do with AFTK and CA?

 

Nothing. :)

 

What about Digital Man, too?

 

I have a bootleg with a good version of that song on it. I'll check and let you know later which one it is.

 

I was going to resurrect my Digital Man poll thread. Just love that song!! :wub:

 

Yes, I'd love to know which show it is.

 

I'm looking now.

 

Countdown to London speeds the song up slightly. So that's out.

 

Music in the Abstract has poor sound quality. But Geddy sings it beautifully. Lots of trill in his voice. :wub: :wub: :wub: This might have been the one I was thinking about because Geddy does sing it better here than on the album. He was in fine form that night!

 

You may be right. Unfortunately, these are the only two bootlegs I have with the song on it from that time period.

 

If you ever find a bootleg with a good version of it, let me know. I thought I had, but it might have been in my dreams. :wacko:

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AFTK loses to CA. The amount of epic tracks on CA puts it on top.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B

Caravan

Wish Them Well

 

How are any of these more epic than A Farewell To Kings, Xanadu or Cygnus X-1?

 

As for CA's title track and Headlong Flight, how are they more epic than Xanadu alone?

 

As for songs like Carnies, The Wreckers, BU2B2 or The Garden, how can they top songs as classic and timeless as Cinderella Man, or Closer To The Heart?

 

And as a segue to the next track, come on, their is now way that BU2B2 tops Madrigal?

 

Seriously, there is absolutely NOTHING on CA that outdoes AFTK.

 

You go well overboard with CA, and when it comes to the greatness of AFTK, so do I!

Ok cupcake boy. Here's my response.

 

The Anarchist

Carnies

Halo Effect

Seven Cities Of Gold

The Wreckers

The Garden

BU2B--close to being bold

Caravan

Wish Them Well

Headlong Flight

Clockwork Angels

 

Bolded because they're all time classic tracks.

 

The rest are merely good to real good. Fantastic songwriting. As I said, AFTK is a great album, Clockwork Angels simply has an overabundance of greatness. It has several mini-epics.

 

Interesting how you don't address the greatness of Caravan. A sizzling track.

Carnies, Halo Effect, are less than equal to Cinderella Man?

You dismiss The Garden as being inferior to CTTH? Whatever man. These things are self-evident. If you can't see it for yourself, no one can really help you.

 

Maybe Dr. Cooper can...maybe. If you get on his good side

 

I have to say, when it comes to CA we have the same favourite songs!

 

Afraid that I prefer every song on AFTK to CA, and thats that. OK whatever dude. Jam away at your leisure

 

My surprise came, not from your favouring CA, but from the use of the word Epic. The entirety of the album is epic. And they're are mini epic songs on the album. We just had a poll confirm that

 

Was gobsmacked, because, just in my opinion, not one song comes close to the epic grandeur of AFTK. AFTK is a collection of songs. They don't tie in to one another. With Clockwork Angels they all relate to one another. Don't rant about the book. Keep it out of the conversation

 

And as for the shorter songs on AFTK, they carrt a weight, a vibe, that just isn't their on CA, or any other album to be exact. We can debate that...each album has it's own vibe. The vibe of CA carries a vibe that is unmistakable. I prefer it to AFTK. I don't want Rush albums to sound the same...that is a common wish here. Part of the allure of CA comes from the sound. Which many people complain to the point of sounding like their wussy ears can't handle even listening to great songs.

 

It's chum

 

I am truly stunned anyone can think otherwise, but bear in mind your taking moderate offense to my tone is exactly the sort of feeling others get with the way you post at times. I really don't care what THOSE (and yes they can be narrowed down to a few) people think. Really not offended by your tone. I know your a young person trying to make sense out of life. When you strike it out on your own, things will change for you in terms of perception of reality.

 

I don't know if you realise it, but the way I responded to you is exactly how I HATE to come across. But you do. All the time. I love your touchy feely times.

 

And I don't need any gang to come forward to back me up either. Ahhh but you have a few don't you? We all have people that we tend to follow and who do likewise

 

And I don't namedrop. This is getting like the Treeduck thread

 

In fact, I was more stunned by your reaction to my post considering, than I was to your opinion on AFTK. It's boring me

 

But...the whole purpose of these threads is for us who see CA differently to analyze where exactly CA fits in the overall view of the bands discography. We can disagree, which we all do (tastes are different after all), but I must say I am quite impressed by how strong the devotion towards CA is against these early albums.

 

Our clashing aside, this is a real eye opener for me. And believe me, there will come a time when only 1 album in two decades gets picked over CA.

Thanks for your insight. It's so deep

 

I am so butthurt.

 

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Guys, this is ridiculous.

 

I'm honestly sorry.

 

Embarrassed enough as it is.

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I think Natural Science is one of the only Rush songs that I like better on the album than when they do it in concert. :unsure:

 

What does this have to do with AFTK and CA?

 

Nothing. :)

 

What about Digital Man, too?

 

I have a bootleg with a good version of that song on it. I'll check and let you know later which one it is.

 

I was going to resurrect my Digital Man poll thread. Just love that song!! :wub:

 

Yes, I'd love to know which show it is.

 

I'm looking now.

 

Countdown to London speeds the song up slightly. So that's out.

 

Music in the Abstract has poor sound quality. But Geddy sings it beautifully. Lots of trill in his voice. :wub: :wub: :wub: This might have been the one I was thinking about because Geddy does sing it better here than on the album. He was in fine form that night!

 

You may be right. Unfortunately, these are the only two bootlegs I have with the song on it from that time period.

 

If you ever find a bootleg with a good version of it, let me know. I thought I had, but it might have been in my dreams. :wacko:

 

I think those may be the only two I have from that era, also. I will have to revisit Abstract, though, as I don't remember Ged's voice standing out on that one.

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CA starts slowly and, IMO, the recording could be much better. Then with Halo Effect it takes off and basically every song from there on is very good. AFTK does not have the recording issues and, with the exception of Madrigal, every song is at least very good.

 

If it was a boxing match I would say that CA puts up a brave and valiant effort, giving every thing its got, but it goes down to defeat.

 

Its good, but its just against better competition.

 

AFTK wins an entertaining match by a relatively comfortable margin and gets my vote.

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Getting even easier yet. A Farewell To Kings by a long shot... Edited by Narps
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Getting even easy yet. A Farewell To Kings by a long shot...

 

Narpalicious, I would have been very surprised to see you vote any other way, considering your tattoo :D

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Average. Wow...

 

Yeah no kidding.

Just amazes me and I guess it always will. The very young typically which helps some...
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Average. Wow...

 

Yeah no kidding.

Just amazes me and I guess it always will. The very young typically which helps some...

 

That went through my mind as well.

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Average. Wow...

 

Yeah no kidding.

Just amazes me and I guess it always will. The very young typically which helps some...

 

That went through my mind as well.

Gotta stop meeting like this... :)
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