"Least Glorious" to ???? - Round 13

[toymaker]

Enemy Within? Thoughts?

[Bard]

Heck, I envy you guys who hear that, I admit. The only time I remotely see similarities between 2 of 3 of my fave outfits, it's the skill levels of Copeland and Peart. But this whole 'Alex's tone can be reggae' is confusing. Reggae-ska-pop-punk fusion is a very specific corner of the genre, and really the only ones that ever truly mastered it were the Police (I guess an argument can be made by modern Gen Y folks for No Doubt). What, because Digital Man and Dew have bridges and choruses that are more 80's pop tone than 70's prog tone, they sound like the Police?

 

color me confused. I don't hear that...but again, being a diehard Police fan, I hear something drastically different from Summers and Lifeson on virtually any record between the two.

 

Offbeat chords in a reggae style? That's what you hear when you listen to DeW or Digital Man?

 

LOL, wow. Okay, if you say so.

From the August 2007 issue of Guitar World:

 

"GW: ...how influenced were you by new wave? Many of the songs on [Moving Pictures] are short and poppy, at least by Rush standards, and your guitar sound bears similarities to that of Andy Summers."

 

"Alex Lifeson: I was very influenced, in many ways. I cut my hair! [laughs] That shocked a lot of our longtime fans who were used to my long flowing locks. Also, I started dressing cooler, more au courant, wearing bright, colorful blazers and ties. I didn't look like I'd just come from a Rennaissance fair. [laughs]

 

"It was time for all of us to change, musically, visually--our entire attitude. The songs got shorter, more accessible. It felt good to become a bit of a new band. We were listening to the Police, and their impact was huge. We saw that a rock trio could do so many different things."

 

"GW: A hint of that impact was apparent on Permanent Waves--the reggae break in 'The Spirit of Radio'--and on 'Vital Signs,' from Moving Pictures."

 

"Lifeson: Yep. That was early Police influence. Their rhythms, their sounds...

 

Yeah, I remember that byte. I still don't hear it in Vital Signs, and the break in Radio doesn't sound reggae to me. I suppose 'Rush reggae' is lost on me.

Now the TSOR reggae break isn't reggea? lol yeah, and 2112 isn't rock...

 

Spirit of the Radio is NOT a reggae song, dude, and you know it.

 

If we're going by your logic, ANYTHING the Canucks listened to back in the day could be an influence. AC/DC. Van Halen. The entire second British invasion.

 

If there are Rush fans on here who view the Police as a fellow member of the prog rock club, speak now or forever hold your peace. :)

[Geddy's Soul Patch]

Heck, I envy you guys who hear that, I admit. The only time I remotely see similarities between 2 of 3 of my fave outfits, it's the skill levels of Copeland and Peart. But this whole 'Alex's tone can be reggae' is confusing. Reggae-ska-pop-punk fusion is a very specific corner of the genre, and really the only ones that ever truly mastered it were the Police (I guess an argument can be made by modern Gen Y folks for No Doubt). What, because Digital Man and Dew have bridges and choruses that are more 80's pop tone than 70's prog tone, they sound like the Police?

 

color me confused. I don't hear that...but again, being a diehard Police fan, I hear something drastically different from Summers and Lifeson on virtually any record between the two.

 

Offbeat chords in a reggae style? That's what you hear when you listen to DeW or Digital Man?

 

LOL, wow. Okay, if you say so.

From the August 2007 issue of Guitar World:

 

"GW: ...how influenced were you by new wave? Many of the songs on [Moving Pictures] are short and poppy, at least by Rush standards, and your guitar sound bears similarities to that of Andy Summers."

 

"Alex Lifeson: I was very influenced, in many ways. I cut my hair! [laughs] That shocked a lot of our longtime fans who were used to my long flowing locks. Also, I started dressing cooler, more au courant, wearing bright, colorful blazers and ties. I didn't look like I'd just come from a Rennaissance fair. [laughs]

 

"It was time for all of us to change, musically, visually--our entire attitude. The songs got shorter, more accessible. It felt good to become a bit of a new band. We were listening to the Police, and their impact was huge. We saw that a rock trio could do so many different things."

 

"GW: A hint of that impact was apparent on Permanent Waves--the reggae break in 'The Spirit of Radio'--and on 'Vital Signs,' from Moving Pictures."

 

"Lifeson: Yep. That was early Police influence. Their rhythms, their sounds...

 

Yeah, I remember that byte. I still don't hear it in Vital Signs, and the break in Radio doesn't sound reggae to me. I suppose 'Rush reggae' is lost on me.

Now the TSOR reggae break isn't reggea? lol yeah, and 2112 isn't rock...

 

Spirit of the Radio is NOT a reggae song, dude, and you know it.

 

If we're going by your logic, ANYTHING the Canucks listened to back in the day could be an influence. AC/DC. Van Halen. The entire second British invasion.

 

If there are Rush fans on here who view the Police as a fellow member of the prog rock club, speak now or forever hold your peace. :)

It's not a reggae song, no; but it definitely has about 15 seconds of reggae in it

[Bard]

Heck, I envy you guys who hear that, I admit. The only time I remotely see similarities between 2 of 3 of my fave outfits, it's the skill levels of Copeland and Peart. But this whole 'Alex's tone can be reggae' is confusing. Reggae-ska-pop-punk fusion is a very specific corner of the genre, and really the only ones that ever truly mastered it were the Police (I guess an argument can be made by modern Gen Y folks for No Doubt). What, because Digital Man and Dew have bridges and choruses that are more 80's pop tone than 70's prog tone, they sound like the Police?

 

color me confused. I don't hear that...but again, being a diehard Police fan, I hear something drastically different from Summers and Lifeson on virtually any record between the two.

 

Offbeat chords in a reggae style? That's what you hear when you listen to DeW or Digital Man?

 

LOL, wow. Okay, if you say so.

From the August 2007 issue of Guitar World:

 

"GW: ...how influenced were you by new wave? Many of the songs on [Moving Pictures] are short and poppy, at least by Rush standards, and your guitar sound bears similarities to that of Andy Summers."

 

"Alex Lifeson: I was very influenced, in many ways. I cut my hair! [laughs] That shocked a lot of our longtime fans who were used to my long flowing locks. Also, I started dressing cooler, more au courant, wearing bright, colorful blazers and ties. I didn't look like I'd just come from a Rennaissance fair. [laughs]

 

"It was time for all of us to change, musically, visually--our entire attitude. The songs got shorter, more accessible. It felt good to become a bit of a new band. We were listening to the Police, and their impact was huge. We saw that a rock trio could do so many different things."

 

"GW: A hint of that impact was apparent on Permanent Waves--the reggae break in 'The Spirit of Radio'--and on 'Vital Signs,' from Moving Pictures."

 

"Lifeson: Yep. That was early Police influence. Their rhythms, their sounds...

 

Yeah, I remember that byte. I still don't hear it in Vital Signs, and the break in Radio doesn't sound reggae to me. I suppose 'Rush reggae' is lost on me.

Now the TSOR reggae break isn't reggea? lol yeah, and 2112 isn't rock...

 

Spirit of the Radio is NOT a reggae song, dude, and you know it.

 

If we're going by your logic, ANYTHING the Canucks listened to back in the day could be an influence. AC/DC. Van Halen. The entire second British invasion.

 

If there are Rush fans on here who view the Police as a fellow member of the prog rock club, speak now or forever hold your peace. :)

It's not a reggae song, no; but it definitely has about 15 seconds of reggae in it

 

Oh, well, I stand corrected. 15 seconds of reggae, that def makes the Police a profound influence.

 

You're speaking of the breakdown near the end of the song before the crowd roar, of course. I guess Alex was, too. That said, it doesn't sound like the Police nor actual reggae. It just sounds like, well....Rush groovin'.

 

But I see what you're saying. :)

 

One thing we can all agree on....there are few tighter power trios ever having existed on the planet than Rush and the Police. Both have legendary drummers and underrated axe men. And both have infamous singer frontmen who play the bass. :)

[Bard]

Enemy Within? Thoughts?

 

I just don't really think Rush explore reggae undercurrents much at all, not in their tone, anyway. Perhaps in song structure, but what outfit in the 80s didn't? If Alex said it, I believe it, don't get me wrong. But the actual reggae riffage I've heard from Alex that was clearlly recognizable as reggae was Working Man on the Time machine and CA tours.

[goose]

Enemy Within? Thoughts?

Definitely. The English Beat influenced the Police influenced Alex. Ska revival, ala RUSH.

[tas7]

Alex plays a weird time reggae sort of danah dedanah dedanah whereas Andy Summers reggae is more ahr ahr ahr.

[Segue Myles]

Grace Under Pressure is amazing.

 

Eat my poo haters!

[Disk98]

As the TRF ambassador for GuP, I have to say...I'm not surprised it's leading, but it's a travesty nonetheless.

 

I can't believe Dew and Afterimage alone don't outweigh the concept mediocrity of AFTK.

 

You deserve a raise. GuP doesn't belong within 5 rounds of this competition.

 

Right?

 

What seems so clear, evidently is not to some.

 

GuP really is the underrated great of the catalogue, I've said before and I say again.

 

Some albums are clearly throwaways. Not many. Just a couple. VT TFE.

 

But to think GuP is less respected than FWTK...it boggles.

 

VT and TFE are both better than GuP.

Well, VT is anyway…

[laughedatbytime]

As the TRF ambassador for GuP, I have to say...I'm not surprised it's leading, but it's a travesty nonetheless.

 

I can't believe Dew and Afterimage alone don't outweigh the concept mediocrity of AFTK.

 

You deserve a raise. GuP doesn't belong within 5 rounds of this competition.

 

Right?

 

What seems so clear, evidently is not to some.

 

GuP really is the underrated great of the catalogue, I've said before and I say again.

 

Some albums are clearly throwaways. Not many. Just a couple. VT TFE.

 

But to think GuP is less respected than FWTK...it boggles.

 

VT and TFE are both better than GuP.

Well, VT is anyway…

Neither one are. Nor is Signals, yet that seems to have survived.

 

Time for that synthfest to go.

[Rutlefan]

Down to only Broon albums, as it should be. The GUP voters should jump to Signals, and then we'll be left with one of the most amazing 5-year, 5-album runs in the history of the multiverse (if the multiverse exists, if not, the universe will have to do). Edited March 10, 2015 by Rutlefan

[LedRush]

On the next poss, can we get the list of albums knocked out so far?

 

Also, I'd like the poll to be public so I can see what maniacs who vote for 2112 or Hemispheres so I can avoid them if they get off their meds.

[toscanobarga]

Calling an early stop to the bleeding, time to put GUP out of it's misery.

[Lorraine]

On the next poss, can we get the list of albums knocked out so far?

 

Also, I'd like the poll to be public so I can see what maniacs who vote for 2112 or Hemispheres so I can avoid them if they get off their meds.

I'm one of the maniacs who voted for 2112. i proudly admit it.

[Lorraine]

Some folks think New World Man has a bit of that vibe.

A bit?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkAtgX-HT4

 

They even move like Sting during the song...

 

No one moves like Sting. That man can move!!! :)

[Lorraine]

Even I can hear the influence of The Police in Rush.

[Bard]

I cannot. And there's no bigger Police fan than I.

 

Still, I find it interesting there are so many Rush fans who hear it...yet so FEW Rush fans who listen to the Police. :)

[EagleMoon]

I cannot. And there's no bigger Police fan than I.

 

Still, I find it interesting there are so many Rush fans who hear it...yet so FEW Rush fans who listen to the Police. :)

 

How do you know that?

 

I definitely hear the influence in Alex's 80's guitar work. The shimmery strummed chords are all over their music.

[Lorraine]

How could you know that there is no bigger Police fan than yourself? How did you determine that? :unsure:

[Lorraine]

I'm listening to Walking On The Moon as I type. With the exception of vocals, that could be Rush.

[LedRush]

I'm listening to Walking On The Moon as I type. With the exception of vocals, that could be Rush.

 

The number of fans and critics who have remarked that Alex and/or Rush took many pages out of the Summers/Police play book is off the charts. I honestly can't believe someone was arguing against that point. And that that person claims to be a Police fan makes it all the more baffling.

[Bard]

And yet so few of you listen to the Police. :)

 

Shimmery strummed chords, oh, okay then. :)

Edited March 10, 2015 by Van Squalen

[Bard]

I'm listening to Walking On The Moon as I type. With the exception of vocals, that could be Rush.

 

(chuckle)

 

I know a few Police fans who might take exception to that. I'm sure you're a HUGE Police fan. :)

 

So now there's a wacky contingent of Police fans who find the Police's music and Rush's music virtually indistinguishable. Because Alex mentioned them once or twice. Haha. Mkay. :)

Edited March 10, 2015 by Van Squalen

[toscanobarga]

Vital Signs is so obviously Police-influenced.

[Lorraine]

I'm listening to Walking On The Moon as I type. With the exception of vocals, that could be Rush.

 

(chuckle)

 

I know a few Police fans who might take exception to that. I'm sure you're a HUGE Police fan. :)

 

So now there's a wacky contingent of Police fans who find the Police's music and Rush's music virtually indistinguishable. Because Alex mentioned them once or twice. Haha. Mkay. :)

 

{chuckle)