Disk98 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 2112: 10.0 Hemispheres: 2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 2112 Better, more varied, and more interesting music, better story-telling, and a better match between music and story. I love Hemispheres, but this isn't a close call for me. Excellent post. Except I would go slightly further and say that I like Hemispheres, not love it. Its a fine, ok, middle of the pack song. Nothing wrong with it but nothing special. 2112, for all the reasons listed, is far better. Got my vote - no second thoughts needed. Agreed! Hemispheres is just...average in the best way possible. I am glad they quit the epics after this, as the result was expansive shorter "epics" like Red Barchetta, Natural Science and The Camera Eye. They have a greater impact on the senses than any five minute segment of Hemispheres. I like the way you said " average in the best way possible". Its a good average Rush song. If you compare it to the the broader universe of Rock music its better than most stuff (hence, IMO, the "best way possible" is spot on). But when compared to Rush's music its just a decent average. I also agree with you on them quitting the epics. Their had been a time and place for them but it was time to move on, change and grow. The epics I really like (2112, By-Tor, Xanadu) are just that - epic. I love them. But rather than continuing to try them and become stuck in what they were doing they changed, created other types of songs and their art grew as a result. In some ways it makes me appreciate the epics even more since I have the, in some ways equally epic, post epic period (PW, MP, synth era and post synth era) to compare the epics to. Yes, I used "epic" a lot in that last sentence but it was done so on purpose. It was designed to be an epic sentence (chuckle). As for Red Barchetta, The Camera Eye and Natural Science I am glad you mentioned them. Natural Science is, to my ears, still part of the epic era but almost a farewell to it. Like it more than Hemispheres but I like the live versions way more than the studio. Red Barchetta is, for me, a top 10 - 15 Rush song. Way better than Hemispheres. The Camera Eye is a song I actually find hard to place. Its not an "epic" but its not what they were turning into. Like Natural Science its sort of a transition song. Its actually like Hemispheres for me. Good, solid song. But nothing great. But I agree that it is somewhat better than Hemispheres. The Camera Eye, Red Barchetta, Natural Science, Xanadu, 2112, Fountain, Cygnus X-1...all far greater than side one of Hemispheres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) 2112 is their masterwork, their best song of all time. Everything about the song is absolute Rush perfection. Hemispheres, while awesome is it's own right, doesn't stand a ghost of a chance. Edited March 7, 2015 by Entre_Perpetuo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 2112: 10.0 Hemispheres: 2.5 2112- 10/10 Hemispheres- 6/10 Of course, I am referring only to the songs. Side B of Hems is far greater than the rather nice second side of 2112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The fact anyone would call Hemisphere average is beyond me..........sorry Mr. Segue. I know i did but i've repented. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The fact anyone would call Hemisphere average is beyond me..........sorry Mr. Segue. I know i did but i've repented. Mick You keep Hems, I keep VT. Much happier with that album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 And 2112-8/10 Hemispheres-Gift of those Canadian Gods. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 The fact anyone would call Hemisphere average is beyond me..........sorry Mr. Segue. I know i did but i've repented. Mick You keep Hems, I keep VT. Much happier with that album.That's a good deal. Bye! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I wouldn't call Hemispheres average though. It is pretty sick, and their functioning tighter as a group here than they ever had before, but 2112 is still the better song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hemispheres - 26 2112 - 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 2112 is their masterwork, their best song of all time. Everything about the song is absolute Rush perfection. Hemispheres, while awesome is it's own right, doesn't stand a ghost of a chance. Dude, I agree. I think a lot of fans love Hems for all the same reasons I dislike it. Sure, it is beautifully played. But I don't like Geddy's vocals on that track. Nothing about it lingers in my memory, and for a song as long as this one, it really should. But never mind. On occassion I have been blown away by it, but it isn't a consistent favourite, I really have to be in the mood for it, and that is not how I notmally feel about Rush music. Hemispheres and Signals are, in my honest opinion, he bands most overrated albums by a long shot. But to each his own, they are deservedly very special to many fans. And I guess it could be argued that both these efforts are in fact underrated. But that is fine for them. I am merely stating my opinion. As albums, both 2112 and Hemispheres are 50/50 great/good. And I am content with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Every Poll.....Hemispheres seems to win......so you tell me, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbobby10 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 2112- 10 Hemispheres- 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Every Poll.....Hemispheres seems to win......so you tell me, lol Mick Good! But not everybody agrees with the majority verdict. I would take VT, Presto, MP, AFTK, PeW, GUP, HYF, 2112 and CoS over Hems any day of the week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbobby10 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Every Poll.....Hemispheres seems to win......so you tell me, lol Mick Good! But not everybody agrees with the majority verdict. I would take VT, Presto, MP, AFTK, PeW, GUP, HYF, 2112 and CoS over Hems any day of the week. I agree with the first part, not the second :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Every Poll.....Hemispheres seems to win......so you tell me, lol Mick Good! But not everybody agrees with the majority verdict. I would take VT, Presto, MP, AFTK, PeW, GUP, HYF, 2112 and CoS over Hems any day of the week. Hemispheres got 100 percent once.....you're officially wrong. :P Eat your own poo, lol Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Every Poll.....Hemispheres seems to win......so you tell me, lol Mick Good! But not everybody agrees with the majority verdict. I would take VT, Presto, MP, AFTK, PeW, GUP, HYF, 2112 and CoS over Hems any day of the week. Hemispheres got 100 percent once.....you're officially wrong. :P Eat your own poo, lol MickHave a cupcake with it too, Segue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Every Poll.....Hemispheres seems to win......so you tell me, lol Mick Good! But not everybody agrees with the majority verdict. I would take VT, Presto, MP, AFTK, PeW, GUP, HYF, 2112 and CoS over Hems any day of the week. Hemispheres got 100 percent once.....you're officially wrong. :P Eat your own poo, lol MickHave a cupcake with it too, Segue. Good combo, lol. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na na na Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Cygnus X-1 Hemispheres....both are pure heaven though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) If you had a choice of only one to see in it's entirety this tour, which would it be? hemispheres by a long shot. 2112 is sooooooooooo overplayed and they use it as goof off time because they're probably bored with it. I would actually go one step further and not even play 2112 this tour in exchange for some good deeper tracks. but that's not gonna happen. Edited March 7, 2015 by 2112FirstStreet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Cygnus X-1 Book II: HemispheresThe section starting at 1:57 and going through to the vocal is perhaps the greatest piece of music this band has ever written. It's sex for the ears. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 To my untrained ear, it sounds to me like Alex made great strides in his playing from 2112 to Hemispheres. He sounds to me still feeling his way in 2112, but had become the master in Hemispheres. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 It's sex for the ears. how does that work? is that what qtips is all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Just checking to see how the naive and belabored Hemispheres is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Every Poll.....Hemispheres seems to win......so you tell me, lol Mick Good! But not everybody agrees with the majority verdict. I would take VT, Presto, MP, AFTK, PeW, GUP, HYF, 2112 and CoS over Hems any day of the week. Hemispheres got 100 percent once.....you're officially wrong. :P Eat your own poo, lol Mick We've been through this multiple times before with the same results. So no matter what comes out on top this time, Hemispheres wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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