Tombstone Mountain Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 This is shocking. It Behoof's the mind—TM British schools and hospitals could be at risk in new horse meat fears http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01669/07_02_2013---_1669225a.jpgAlert ... food firm's pasta dish By STEVE HAWKES, Business EditorLast Updated: 08th February 2013 382 DOWNING Street today said that they cannot rule out that horse meat has been served to millions of school pupils and hospital patients. It emerged last night that beef lasagne meals sold by fast food giants Findus were up to 99 per cent horse. http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01669/SNN0804GXA_1669359a.jpgChain ... Findus's beef lasagne was bought fromthe same French meat supplier which providedTesco's withdrawn Value Spaghetti Bolognese.Aldi has also pulled products from Comigel,based in Metz, north east France The food giant has now been ordered to test the dishes for a cancer-causing painkiller used by vets.Today a spokesman for Findus said they received notification on SATURDAY that their products may contain horsemeat.The company issued a full product recall on Monday before DNA testing on Wednesday confirmed horsemeat was in their products.Findus today reiterated its apology over some of its beef lasagne products containing horse meat.The company said it was “sorry that we have let people down”.Ministers were rapped over the scandal and customers warned to take meals back to shops.Downing Street described the latest incident as “distasteful” but stressed there was no evidence of a health risk and urged consumers to follow the FSA advice.A Number 10 spokeswoman said the matter appeared to involve “acts of criminality” which were being investigated by the police, including officers from the UK.She could not say, however, whether any tests had been done on school dinners, hospital and prison meals or other state-provided food.Pressed repeatedly on the issue at a daily briefing for Westminster journalists, she said: “We have a regulatory regime in place and we have bodies that are there to enforce them and there is clearly a responsibility on retailers as well.“The FSA are looking at this issue. There are routine tests carried out but it is really up to retailers to ensure that what they are selling to people who cook food for other people to consume is what it is on the label.”She told reporters: “It looks like there have been acts of criminality, which is why the police are involved.”Asked if that included UK officers, she said: “They are involved."Findus last night admitted it had no idea how LONG the products had been on sale or how MANY families had bought them.Tests on 18 sample meals found 11 were at least 60 per cent horse while one was virtually nothing but. The findings — which raised the spectre of human food being contaminated with vets’ drugs — are a major humiliation for the Government.Labour shadow environment secretary Mary Creagh accused it of being “complacent” over the scandal’s scale and whether fraud was involved. She said: “British ministers are asleep on the job. This is no longer just a food safety issue but possibly an international criminal trade.”Red-faced officials at the Food Standards Agency have urged families who bought the ready meals to take them back to shops unopened. And they ordered Findus to check whether the lasagne contained phenylbutazone — an animal painkiller linked to harmful effects, including potentially causing cancer, in humans. Findus only admitted a problem with the meals after The Sun reported it had recalled them.The dishes affected are all frozen Findus Beef Lasagne, 320g, 360g and 500g sizes. A spokesman said: “Samples were taken from a variety of products. Some samples were as low as 5 per cent and one was 99 per cent.” The products were bought from Comigel, a French meat supplier.Tesco has withdrawn an Everyday Value Spaghetti Bolognese bought from the same source in Metz, north east France. Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4784465/Findus-beef-lasagne-up-to-99-horse-tests-show.html#ixzz2KKUbAEWG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 As long as we demand cheap food, this will keep on happening. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librarian Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then? Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librarian Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Yes. I think I would not be a happy camper, if that were me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Someone hiding the barf emote..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then? Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh... Haggis is gorgeous. And with neeps and tatties....mmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then? Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh... Haggis is gorgeous. And with neeps and tatties....mmmmm Don't know what a neep is, but I'll take the haggis. Preferable to horse-flavored lasagna... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then? Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh... Haggis is gorgeous. And with neeps and tatties....mmmmm Don't know what a neep is, but I'll take the haggis. Preferable to horse-flavored lasagna... Neeps are turnips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Keep away from burgers and fast food crap and you'll be ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then? Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh... Haggis is gorgeous. And with neeps and tatties....mmmmm You have the neep and I'll take the tatties! :D Don't know what a neep is, but I'll take the haggis. Preferable to horse-flavored lasagna... Neeps are turnips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomesickAlien Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 It may be unethical to foist horse meat on an unsuspecting public, but does it really matter if the ungulate on your plate is a cow or a horse? I'd be hesitant about eating horse meat, but that's just a cultural taboo. Unless you're a vegetarian on moral grounds, you shouldn't be too squeamish about the thought of eating horse meat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calirush Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 It may be unethical to foist horse meat on an unsuspecting public, but does it really matter if the ungulate on your plate is a cow or a horse? I'd be hesitant about eating horse meat, but that's just a cultural taboo. Unless you're a vegetarian on moral grounds, you shouldn't be too squeamish about the thought of eating horse meat. http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/world/europe/uk-horsemeat-probe/index.html While horsemeat itself is not considered a food safety risk, its unauthorized use in certain products has raised concerns it could contain the veterinary drug phenylbutazone, or "bute," commonly used to treat horses. Meat from animals treated with phenylbutazone is not allowed to enter the food chain as it may pose a risk to human health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomesickAlien Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 It may be unethical to foist horse meat on an unsuspecting public, but does it really matter if the ungulate on your plate is a cow or a horse? I'd be hesitant about eating horse meat, but that's just a cultural taboo. Unless you're a vegetarian on moral grounds, you shouldn't be too squeamish about the thought of eating horse meat. http://www.cnn.com/2...robe/index.html While horsemeat itself is not considered a food safety risk, its unauthorized use in certain products has raised concerns it could contain the veterinary drug phenylbutazone, or "bute," commonly used to treat horses. Meat from animals treated with phenylbutazone is not allowed to enter the food chain as it may pose a risk to human health. I meant the practice of eating horse meat in general terms, not just as it pertained to the incident described in the original post. Maybe I should have pointed that out. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librarian Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Neeps are turnips? :laughing guy:Ha..not what I was thinking at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) It may be unethical to foist horse meat on an unsuspecting public, but does it really matter if the ungulate on your plate is a cow or a horse? I'd be hesitant about eating horse meat, but that's just a cultural taboo. Unless you're a vegetarian on moral grounds, you shouldn't be too squeamish about the thought of eating horse meat. You could say the same thing about dog meat or cat meat (looking right at you, Korea and China.) When I am eating meat, I should be able to figure it is cow unless otherwise specified. I live right next to horse country in Virginia. Believe me, people want to know what the meat they are eating is. Edited February 10, 2013 by Sheldon Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomesickAlien Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 It may be unethical to foist horse meat on an unsuspecting public, but does it really matter if the ungulate on your plate is a cow or a horse? I'd be hesitant about eating horse meat, but that's just a cultural taboo. Unless you're a vegetarian on moral grounds, you shouldn't be too squeamish about the thought of eating horse meat. You could say the same thing about dog meat or cat meat (looking right at you, Korea and China.) When I am eating meat, I should be able to figure it is cow unless otherwise specified. I live right next to horse country in Virginia. Believe me, people want to know what the meat they are eating is. I wasn't suggesting that people should be sold mislabeled meat. I'm sure I'd be upset if I ate what I thought was beef, only to later discover it was horse meat. My point was that if someone eats beef they shouldn't be too indignant about the idea of eating horse. I'm trying to backpedal as gracefully as possible, so cut me some slack. :P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 It may be unethical to foist horse meat on an unsuspecting public, but does it really matter if the ungulate on your plate is a cow or a horse? I'd be hesitant about eating horse meat, but that's just a cultural taboo. Unless you're a vegetarian on moral grounds, you shouldn't be too squeamish about the thought of eating horse meat. You could say the same thing about dog meat or cat meat (looking right at you, Korea and China.) When I am eating meat, I should be able to figure it is cow unless otherwise specified. I live right next to horse country in Virginia. Believe me, people want to know what the meat they are eating is. I wasn't suggesting that people should be sold mislabeled meat. I'm sure I'd be upset if I ate what I thought was beef, only to later discover it was horse meat. My point was that if someone eats beef they shouldn't be too indignant about the idea of eating horse. I'm trying to backpedal as gracefully as possible, so cut me some slack. :P You're lucky I genuinely like you! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 You just gotta believe its happening in America...especially Virginia and New York. Watch out for those Banquet Microwave meals for a buck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 You just gotta believe its happening in America...especially Virginia and New York. Watch out for those Banquet Microwave meals for a buck. Thank God I'm not on the Poverty Menu! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomesickAlien Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 It may be unethical to foist horse meat on an unsuspecting public, but does it really matter if the ungulate on your plate is a cow or a horse? I'd be hesitant about eating horse meat, but that's just a cultural taboo. Unless you're a vegetarian on moral grounds, you shouldn't be too squeamish about the thought of eating horse meat. You could say the same thing about dog meat or cat meat (looking right at you, Korea and China.) When I am eating meat, I should be able to figure it is cow unless otherwise specified. I live right next to horse country in Virginia. Believe me, people want to know what the meat they are eating is. I wasn't suggesting that people should be sold mislabeled meat. I'm sure I'd be upset if I ate what I thought was beef, only to later discover it was horse meat. My point was that if someone eats beef they shouldn't be too indignant about the idea of eating horse. I'm trying to backpedal as gracefully as possible, so cut me some slack. :P You're lucky I genuinely like you! :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) You just gotta believe its happening in America...especially Virginia and New York. Watch out for those Banquet Microwave meals for a buck. Thank God I'm not on the Poverty Menu!It makes one rethink beef burritos from your favorite local supermarket. Taquito' s anyone? Edited February 11, 2013 by Tombstone Mountain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) If they consume haggis, then how shocking is horse then? Yeah, but, when you choose haggis, you KNOW what you're getting (and if you're smart, you'll choose something else... :P). When you think you're eating 100% beef and you're unwittingly eating horse....neigh... Haggis is gorgeous. And with neeps and tatties....mmmmm You have the neep and I'll take the tatties! :D Don't know what a neep is, but I'll take the haggis. Preferable to horse-flavored lasagna... Neeps are turnips!How the heck did I leave the above post blank?! :o Edited February 11, 2013 by Babycat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsterfurious Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 What's the big freakin' deal? Who decides which dead animal is acceptable to eat and which isn't? What is so shocking about eating a horse when you're going to eat a pig, cow, chicken, etc...?Good question...is it because a horse is really a pet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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