Lorraine Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 DLR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Damn I love Weird Al!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that? yes, Lorraine, tell us ... Did Hagar say something disparaging ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan™ should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that?Don't you remember the tell-all book Sammy had written and was going to release? I have excerpts saved somewhere in one of my files many of which should bear the sign "Abandon Hope All Ye That Enter" because they are like a labyrinth - files within files within files within files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan™ should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that? yes, Lorraine, tell us ... Did Hagar say something disparaging ? I have to find my file. The only thing I remember off the top of my head is that Sammy said that Ray told him around 1990 that Geddy's voice was shot and that Rush was a has-been band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan™ should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that? yes, Lorraine, tell us ... Did Hagar say something disparaging ? I have to find my file. The only thing I remember off the top of my head is that Sammy said that Ray told him around 1990 that Geddy's voice was shot and that Rush was a has-been band.well that was around presto...so he was partially accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I found the file but it isn't loading.Look this up: Sammy Hagar Book Excerpts, Chapters 19 and 20 - Guitars101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan™ should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that? yes, Lorraine, tell us ... Did Hagar say something disparaging ? I have to find my file. The only thing I remember off the top of my head is that Sammy said that Ray told him around 1990 that Geddy's voice was shot and that Rush was a has-been band.well that was around presto...so he was partially accurate.And more importantly, it was over a quarter of a century ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The last time this came up on here, someone said (I think) that Ray denied saying any of that and that Sammy was a liar. Or something like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Here's a cut-and-paste ( apologies for the scattered way this displayed ) This is the supposed conversation between Hagar and Alex Van Halen, with Hagar not wanting Ray Danniels to become the manager for VH: Hagar starts by saying: 'Well, Ray's had f***ing Rush for 23 years. Doyou> think he's going to be more loyal to us than them?' He (Alex VH ) said, 'Oh, Rush isgoing> to retire. They are washed up. Ray knows they're finished. He told me that> himself.' Alex went on and on with all this horseshit about Rush he'd beentold> by Ray." Hagar says he was appalled at the negative comments directedtoward> Rush by Alex Van Halen that he attributed directly to Ray Danniels. Sammywas> even more offended at the fact that Al's brother-in-law wanted to manageVan> Halen so badly, he was willing sell out his other band to get the job. Forover> two decades, Danniels had stood behind Rush. From what Hagar was hearing,> apparently that was a thing of the past. The Red Rocker even spoke to Ray> himself about the Canadian trio and was astounded by the answers he>> received.> "Ray even bad-mouthed Rush to me," said an incredulous Hagar. "Can youbelieve> it? He was saying shit like, 'If they had a good singer, they could havemade> it on pop radio.' He was telling me that with the kind of music they play,Rush> would never be any more than they already have been. I started hammeringhim> with questions. I said, 'Ray, Rush> should have been the Canadian Led Zeppelin. Why don't they sell records?Why> did their last record only do 400,000 or 500,000 records?' He said to me,'If> they only had a> singer.' He was crazy to say that, because Geddy Lee has one of the mostunique> voices in rock. Rush's big problem is they never had any videos -which isone> of the major complaints I had against Ray. I knew his dealing with MTVwould> bury us. I even called over there and asked them about their relationshipwith> him. They didn't even know who Ray Danniels was. When I told them he wasthe> manager of Rush, they said, 'Well, we never had a relationship with Rush. Edited April 30, 2016 by Lucas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan™ should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that?Don't you remember the tell-all book Sammy had written and was going to release? Nope, can't say that I do. Was it big news or something? Reading the transcript that Lucas posted, it seems to me that maybe Ray Daniels was just telling the guys in VH this stuff in order to get them to go with him. Trying to make it feel like VH would take top priority even if he wasn't thinking about leaving Rush. Sammy didn't say anything bad here. He's just recalling the conversations he had as he remembers them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disembodied Spirit Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan™ should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that?Don't you remember the tell-all book Sammy had written and was going to release? Nope, can't say that I do. Was it big news or something? Reading the transcript that Lucas posted, it seems to me that maybe Ray Daniels was just telling the guys in VH this stuff in order to get them to go with him. Trying to make it feel like VH would take top priority even if he wasn't thinking about leaving Rush. Sammy didn't say anything bad here. He's just recalling the conversations he had as he remembers them.This made Ray Danniels seem like a douche.Which he is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan™ should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that? yes, Lorraine, tell us ... Did Hagar say something disparaging ? I have to find my file. The only thing I remember off the top of my head is that Sammy said that Ray told him around 1990 that Geddy's voice was shot and that Rush was a has-been band.well that was around presto...so he was partially accurate. He wasn't wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 RothCheroneHagar in that order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Have to admit I didn't give the Hagar stuff much of a chance - but I don't really like his voice and I don't care for the songs I have heard - which may explain why I didn't give them much of a chance. I think I prefer the attitudey Roth stuff, although the corny bits make me gag ("one break . . . coming up!"). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Have to admit I didn't give the Hagar stuff much of a chance - but I don't really like his voice and I don't care for the songs I have heard - which may explain why I didn't give them much of a chance. I think I prefer the attitudey Roth stuff, although the corny bits make me gag ("one break . . . coming up!"). Dude that bit is fuxkkng classic!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Have to admit I didn't give the Hagar stuff much of a chance - but I don't really like his voice and I don't care for the songs I have heard - which may explain why I didn't give them much of a chance. I think I prefer the attitudey Roth stuff, although the corny bits make me gag ("one break . . . coming up!"). Dude that bit is fuxkkng classic!!! That's exactly the gesture I make when I hear it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Have to admit I didn't give the Hagar stuff much of a chance - but I don't really like his voice and I don't care for the songs I have heard - which may explain why I didn't give them much of a chance. I think I prefer the attitudey Roth stuff, although the corny bits make me gag ("one break . . . coming up!"). Dude that bit is fuxkkng classic!!! That's exactly the gesture I make when I hear it.Why? It's just some studio banter that fits the tone of the song. Hager can be just as "corny", just not as witty. "Hello, baby" :eyeroll: Edited April 30, 2016 by ReRushed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's Dave. I like Van Hagar. But the first 6 albums were perfect. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's Dave. I like Van Hagar. But the first 6 albums were perfect. I think the first four albums are perfect...and then the sixth one. I agree with your conclusion, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willowroolz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Diamond Dave. It's not even close, for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Diamond Dave. It's not even close, for me. Yes. Dave ca. 78-84. Overall i like Sammy more. But for VH? Prime Dave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 And no TrueRushFan™ should be voting for Sammy. :tsk: Remember the stuff he wrote about what Ray allegedly told him about Rush? ;) :) What stuff was that?Don't you remember the tell-all book Sammy had written and was going to release? Nope, can't say that I do. Was it big news or something? Reading the transcript that Lucas posted, it seems to me that maybe Ray Daniels was just telling the guys in VH this stuff in order to get them to go with him. Trying to make it feel like VH would take top priority even if he wasn't thinking about leaving Rush. Sammy didn't say anything bad here. He's just recalling the conversations he had as he remembers them. Wouldn't know. Just learned about it a few years ago. How what allegedly he said "seems to you" has as much bearing as how it "seems" to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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