Eel Yddeg Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Since this has been discussed in the "Top 100 Metal Albums" Would you say Rush is a metal band, or not? Personally, I wouldn't. Their sound is more hard rock with prog elements to me. They lost all heaviness once Signals rolled around. However, some songs, IMO, are metal.The following are songs I would consider to be metal.Working ManBy-Tor and the Snow Dog (7/4 War Furor)2112 Grand FinaleCygnus X-1 (Part III)Natural Science (Part II, Different Stages version)BU2BOne Little Victory (Particularly the intro) Post thoughts below. If they're not metal, feel free to post songs you'd say are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yes you can rest easy in your beds tonight RUSH fanatics, RUSH are indeed METAL!! :haz: :haz: :haz: Now why didn't i start a thread like this? :smoke: 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yes you can rest easy in your beds tonight RUSH fanatics, RUSH are indeed METAL!! :haz: :haz: :haz: Now why didn't i start a thread like this? :smoke:You did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prolix Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Depends on the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day of Light Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Not metal. FIGHT ME 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Definitely not metal. Even they will tell you that. I read some of that top 100 metal thread and there is a lot of not metal in there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 No, not at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 They've dabbled in it a few times and are no doubt influential to those in the genre. Overall, they're not though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Definitely not metal. Even they will tell you that. I read some of that top 100 metal thread and there is a lot of not metal in there.You know why they call Bubbles "Bubbles"? Because he doesn't stop choking until he sees bubbles coming out of their mouth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yes you can rest easy in your beds tonight RUSH fanatics, RUSH are indeed METAL!! :haz: :haz: :haz: Now why didn't i start a thread like this? :smoke:You did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 At times they were metal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) I think they could be as metal to the seventies standard of metal as Rainbow, Dio, UFO, Sabbath and others. And their influence on metal in indisputable. And they are HEAVY onstage. Edited April 3, 2016 by Segue Myles 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I think they could be as metal to the seventies standard of metal as Rainbow, Dio, UFO, Sabbath and others. And their influence on metal in indisputable. And they are HEAVY onstage. Dio didn't release his first solo album until 1983. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket ignites Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Bastille Day - yes Tia Shan - no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 There was a period of time when I first discovered Rush that they were "heavy metal", and I do not think that was simply my perception due to my age .. By the mid-late 70s, heavy metal was becoming at part of the culture of working and middle class kids, and, speaking for myself, I felt completed alienated and separate from what life seemed to be all about - this conveyor belt of conformity and "do as I say, not as I do" Rush captured the perfect balance of heavy riffs, escapist and non-conformist lyrics and screaming vocals and guitar, and they did it while looking and sounding and coming across like no other band - they were geeks, Geddy and Alex were playing with androgyny, Neil was an intellect - but not like one of the school teachers - they were a band of odd balls that I loved and could relate to ... "Heavy Metal" might have a different definition for different people .. just like "punk" ... it is ( was ) much more than just the sound - it also included an unspoken bond between the fans and the bands I didn't see them live until 1980, and that was as much a metal show as when I saw Maiden two years later - it is a vibe that is not exclusive to the music 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I think they could be as metal to the seventies standard of metal as Rainbow, Dio, UFO, Sabbath and others. And their influence on metal in indisputable. And they are HEAVY onstage. Dio didn't release his first solo album until 1983. Oh well. He still had enough work in the seventies to back me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 There was a period of time when I first discovered Rush that they were "heavy metal", and I do not think that was simply my perception due to my age .. By the mid-late 70s, heavy metal was becoming at part of the culture of working and middle class kids, and, speaking for myself, I felt completed alienated and separate from what life seemed to be all about - this conveyor belt of conformity and "do as I say, not as I do" Rush captured the perfect balance of heavy riffs, escapist and non-conformist lyrics and screaming vocals and guitar, and they did it while looking and sounding and coming across like no other band - they were geeks, Geddy and Alex were playing with androgyny, Neil was an intellect - but not like one of the school teachers - they were a band of odd balls that I loved and could relate to ... "Heavy Metal" might have a different definition for different people .. just like "punk" ... it is ( was ) much more than just the sound - it also included an unspoken bond between the fans and the bands I didn't see them live until 1980, and that was as much a metal show as when I saw Maiden two years later - it is a vibe that is not exclusive to the music Even though I was not there this is exactly how I feel and imagine seventies Rush to have come across as at that time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 The heaviest 70s Rush is metal enough to be considered proto-metal, particularly 2112 and the final part of Cygnus X-1. Modern Rush is also close enough to metal for a comparison to be made. However, the majority of Rush's catalogue I would not consider metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 definitely some of their songs. some albums could probably be fit into different metal sub genres but not all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Not metal. FIGHT ME I'd fight you like I would a puppy who's stealing one of my socks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 This raises the question: When does "Metal" become "Metal"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 This raises the question: When does "Metal" become "Metal"?If "metal" can't be defined and agreed upon, then a discussion of whether Rush is metal or not can't be had. Frankly, I've never understood the point of labeling music this or that...especially when you've ((not specifically "you" DD)) already been listening to it and have been enjoying it for YEARS. It's metal. It's not metal. When you heard a particular piece of music for the first time, did you feel the need to label it something? I hope not. You likely just thought it was good or not. And that's all that really matters. Over analysis of music (especially of this nature) is NOT metal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordgalaxy Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) If someone heard Iron Maiden's "Killers", went into a coma, and then woke up and heard shit like Lamb of God or Meshuggah and was told that was metal, they'd think someone had lost their marbles. Moral of the story, stuff changes and there isn't really a great definition of what metal is. Edited April 3, 2016 by Fordgalaxy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) Ffwd to 4:00 for the ultimate debate on what Heavy Metal" actually means... Edited April 3, 2016 by Digital Dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I feel that once a label has been attached, and certain stipulations have been established, then it's pretty much dead .. What I mean is that the artists that create the revolution do so because it is natural for them, and it is part of their creative process .. Rush was a band that was blazing the trail .. Once that has been established, bands that are trailblazers to begin with usually move on and morph into something different - whether they retain what the fans like is an entirely different issue For example, the early metal bands did not use double bass drums because it was an established cliché ( as it is now ) ... This is not to say bands can't use double bass anymore, but it has become such a required and cliché element, that, taken away from a lot of newer bands, what you would have left would be very unmetal .. You strip the check-listed items from some bands, and you have nothing ... a true metal band - like a true punk band - can exist without the hackneyed and expected elements .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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