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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

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I think the reason MI State didn't get a #1 seed is due to their RPI which was 11. Virginia and the other #1's had single digits.

Yeah, that's probably the reason, but that just means the committee isn't very smart, for a couple of reasons.

 

The most important is that they use the RPI in the first place. Any system that doesn't use margin of victory is incredibly flawed. The second is that they don't seem to notice that the Spartans' best player was gone for three of their losses, and realize it isn't the same team that has romped through the Big Ten during the second half.

 

kenpom, which is the gold standard of numerical analysis for college basketball, has Sparty 3rd, ahead of UNC and Oregon. I would hope that would be taken more seriously than the RPI, where you can lose RPI points just for playing a lesser team, even if you beat them 120-5.

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I think the reason MI State didn't get a #1 seed is due to their RPI which was 11. Virginia and the other #1's had single digits.

Yeah, that's probably the reason, but that just means the committee isn't very smart, for a couple of reasons.

 

The most important is that they use the RPI in the first place. Any system that doesn't use margin of victory is incredibly flawed. The second is that they don't seem to notice that the Spartans' best player was gone for three of their losses, and realize it isn't the same team that has romped through the Big Ten during the second half.

 

kenpom, which is the gold standard of numerical analysis for college basketball, has Sparty 3rd, ahead of UNC and Oregon. I would hope that would be taken more seriously than the RPI, where you can lose RPI points just for playing a lesser team, even if you beat them 120-5.

College basketball has it right. No need to overvalue blowouts.
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Rd2 Swt16 Elite8 Final4 Final Champ 1 in

1S Kansas 96.9 75.5 57.4 37.3 25.8 15.2 7

1MW Virginia 96.2 77.9 54.5 34.2 21.4 13.2 8

2MW Michigan St. 92.2 75.0 55.8 32.4 19.8 11.9 8

1E North Carolina 95.6 76.6 48.4 32.3 17.6 10.3 10

2S Villanova 89.9 63.3 40.3 21.9 13.8 7.2 14

2W Oklahoma 83.7 61.6 37.3 22.6 10.9 5.1 19

1W Oregon 95.6 65.0 41.5 23.0 10.6 4.7 21

3E West Virginia 70.1 52.9 34.5 17.5 8.4 4.4 23

4E Kentucky 83.2 51.9 25.8 15.4 7.2 3.6 27

2E Xavier 86.4 55.7 29.5 12.5 5.0 2.2 46

5MW Purdue 71.4 43.1 18.4 9.0 4.3 2.0 49

3W Texas A&M 83.6 46.5 24.2 12.8 5.2 2.0 49

6W Texas 76.4 42.8 22.5 12.0 5.0 2.0 51

3S Miami FL 86.7 44.8 20.3 8.7 4.4 1.8 56

5E Indiana 81.9 40.0 17.3 9.1 3.7 1.6 62

4MW Iowa St. 75.2 39.0 15.2 6.8 3.0 1.3 79

4W Duke 72.3 39.9 18.7 8.6 3.2 1.1 89

6S Arizona 51.5 27.7 12.3 5.1 2.6 1.0 99

7S Iowa 76.2 29.9 14.4 5.7 2.7 1.0 99

4S California 68.8 39.3 13.5 5.6 2.6 0.9 109

5W Baylor 60.7 33.5 15.4 6.9 2.5 0.9 116

5S Maryland 72.6 39.9 13.4 5.4 2.4 0.9 117

11S Wichita St. 30.6 17.1 7.9 3.5 1.8 0.7 135

6MW Seton Hall 51.4 30.2 11.1 4.0 1.5 0.6 176

9S Connecticut 65.1 18.0 9.5 3.8 1.7 0.6 178

3MW Utah 75.2 36.1 12.5 4.2 1.5 0.5 190

11MW Gonzaga 48.6 27.9 9.9 3.4 1.3 0.5 217

9W Cincinnati 54.5 19.8 9.4 3.7 1.1 0.3 294

7E Wisconsin 56.2 24.6 10.2 3.2 1.0 0.3 323

10W VCU 58.8 20.9 8.3 3.3 0.9 0.3 389

14E S. F. Austin 29.9 17.0 7.7 2.4 0.7 0.2 437

11S Vanderbilt 17.9 8.5 3.2 1.2 0.5 0.2 593

8W Saint Joseph's 45.5 14.8 6.4 2.3 0.6 0.2 616

6E Notre Dame 56.1 18.1 7.4 2.1 0.5 0.2 640

12W Yale 39.3 17.6 6.3 2.2 0.6 0.2 648

10MW Syracuse 54.7 13.3 5.7 1.5 0.5 0.1 775

10E Pittsburgh 43.8 16.7 6.0 1.6 0.4 0.1 911

9MW Butler 50.5 11.0 4.0 1.2 0.4 0.1 946

8MW Texas Tech 49.5 10.6 3.8 1.2 0.3 0.1 1040

9E Providence 50.4 11.5 3.6 1.3 0.3 0.08 1203

8E USC 49.6 11.2 3.5 1.2 0.3 0.08 1291

12MW Little Rock 28.6 11.2 2.7 0.8 0.2 0.06 1688

7MW Dayton 45.3 9.7 3.7 0.9 0.2 0.06 1762

7W Oregon St. 41.2 11.8 3.7 1.2 0.3 0.06 1785

8S Colorado 34.9 6.2 2.3 0.6 0.2 0.04 2431

13S Hawaii 31.2 12.0 2.4 0.6 0.2 0.04 2857

11E Michigan 15.6 4.3 1.6 0.4 0.08 0.02 4826

13W UNC Wilmington 27.7 9.0 2.3 0.6 0.1 0.02 4991

11W Northern Iowa 23.6 7.1 1.9 0.5 0.1 0.02 5878

12S South Dakota St. 27.4 8.8 1.5 0.3 0.08 0.01 7636

13MW Iona 24.8 6.7 1.3 0.3 0.06 0.01 8175

15W CSU Bakersfield 16.3 5.7 1.4 0.3 0.05 0.008 12099

10S Temple 23.8 4.5 1.0 0.2 0.04 0.007 14716

13E Stony Brook 16.8 4.6 0.9 0.2 0.03 0.006 16711

14MW Fresno St. 24.8 5.8 0.9 0.1 0.02 0.004 28060

12E Chattanooga 18.1 3.5 0.6 0.1 0.02 0.003 39734

14W Green Bay 16.4 3.5 0.7 0.1 0.02 0.002 53696

15S UNC Asheville 10.1 2.4 0.4 0.05 0.009 0.001 92658

15MW Middle Tennessee 7.8 2.1 0.4 0.05 0.007 0.0008 125807

15E Weber St. 13.6 3.0 0.5 0.06 0.006 0.0006 155401

14S Buffalo 13.3 1.9 0.2 0.03 0.004 0.0004 254089

16E FCGU 3.6 0.7 0.06 0.008 0.0005 <.0001 2326796

16MW Hampton 3.8 0.5 0.05 0.004 0.0003 <.0001 6074497

16S Austin Peay 3.1 0.3 0.03 0.002 0.0002 <.0001 13507853

16W Southern 3.0 0.3 0.03 0.002 <.0001 <.0001 27493818

16W Holy Cross 1.4 0.1 0.006 0.0003 <.0001 <.0001 355082632

16E F. Dickinson 0.8 0.07 0.004 0.0002 <.0001 <.0001 367858599

 

From kenpom.

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I think the reason MI State didn't get a #1 seed is due to their RPI which was 11. Virginia and the other #1's had single digits.

Yeah, that's probably the reason, but that just means the committee isn't very smart, for a couple of reasons.

 

The most important is that they use the RPI in the first place. Any system that doesn't use margin of victory is incredibly flawed. The second is that they don't seem to notice that the Spartans' best player was gone for three of their losses, and realize it isn't the same team that has romped through the Big Ten during the second half.

 

kenpom, which is the gold standard of numerical analysis for college basketball, has Sparty 3rd, ahead of UNC and Oregon. I would hope that would be taken more seriously than the RPI, where you can lose RPI points just for playing a lesser team, even if you beat them 120-5.

College basketball has it right. No need to overvalue blowouts.

There's no need to overvalue blowouts with disparate teams. And the advanced stats services have explicit limits on doing so. But point differential matters in terms of predictive value. I'll run a pool between kenpom and RPI and we'll see who wins. Risky, in a way, because there's not a 100% chance that it will do better. But run a million tournaments, and it will.

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I think the reason MI State didn't get a #1 seed is due to their RPI which was 11. Virginia and the other #1's had single digits.

Yeah, that's probably the reason, but that just means the committee isn't very smart, for a couple of reasons.

 

The most important is that they use the RPI in the first place. Any system that doesn't use margin of victory is incredibly flawed. The second is that they don't seem to notice that the Spartans' best player was gone for three of their losses, and realize it isn't the same team that has romped through the Big Ten during the second half.

 

kenpom, which is the gold standard of numerical analysis for college basketball, has Sparty 3rd, ahead of UNC and Oregon. I would hope that would be taken more seriously than the RPI, where you can lose RPI points just for playing a lesser team, even if you beat them 120-5.

College basketball has it right. No need to overvalue blowouts.

There's no need to overvalue blowouts with disparate teams. And the advanced stats services have explicit limits on doing so. But point differential matters in terms of predictive value. I'll run a pool between kenpom and RPI and we'll see who wins. Risky, in a way, because there's not a 100% chance that it will do better. But run a million tournaments, and it will.

A million tournaments! :laughing guy:
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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

We could just play for your money. How much are you putting in?

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

Who's stopping you from starting your own?

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

 

There are plenty of sites out there for gambling March Madness brackets or you can do that IRL at the workplace or something. TRF is not one of those places. Don't like it, you don't have to play.

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Coming in here to complain that we aren't betting money seems like a waste of time. We're here to have fun and if you aren't having fun then why are you here? (Because we're here)
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Sorry I thought there were some adults in here. A true fan will put his $$ where his picks are.

Continue on with your amateur frat boy Pick Em.

Did not realize Midwesterners did not gamble. I'll go sit at the adult table now.

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

We could just play for your money. How much are you putting in?

Let's go $250 a bracket?

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

We could just play for your money. How much are you putting in?

Let's go $250 a bracket?

If you're putting in $250 a bracket, how many times can I enter? Since it's your money, the decent thing to do is ask...

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

We could just play for your money. How much are you putting in?

Let's go $250 a bracket?

If you're putting in $250 a bracket, how many times can I enter? Since it's your money, the decent thing to do is ask...

$250 covers MY bracket. You can enter as many times as you like.

YOUR cost is $250 a bracket.

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

We could just play for your money. How much are you putting in?

Let's go $250 a bracket?

If you're putting in $250 a bracket, how many times can I enter? Since it's your money, the decent thing to do is ask...

$250 covers MY bracket. You can enter as many times as you like.

YOUR cost is $250 a bracket.

I don't gamble. Sorry. But I will play for your money.

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Sorry I thought there were some adults in here. A true fan will put his $$ where his picks are.

Continue on with your amateur frat boy Pick Em.

Did not realize Midwesterners did not gamble. I'll go sit at the adult table now.

 

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

We could just play for your money. How much are you putting in?

Let's go $250 a bracket?

If you're putting in $250 a bracket, how many times can I enter? Since it's your money, the decent thing to do is ask...

$250 covers MY bracket. You can enter as many times as you like.

YOUR cost is $250 a bracket.

I don't gamble. Sorry. But I will play for your money.

Someone needs to explain to you how risk vs. reward works.

I'm already in a $100 bracket with 64 teams.

1st place $4000/ 2nd - $1000, 3rd $750, 4th $250, 5-8 $100..tax free $ rules

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Is there any $$ involved?

Or are we picking a bracket for free for fun. Which is actually no fun at all

 

This is entirely free and just for fun. No gambling whatsoever. The only purpose of this is to laugh at your fellow TRFers as their teams get upset by some team they never paid any mind to :fury:

 

No money involved. I don't think TRF should be a gambling portal.

So we are just picking for fun and bragging rights on the playground at recess?

WOW- What a hoot .. :eyeroll:

We could just play for your money. How much are you putting in?

Let's go $250 a bracket?

If you're putting in $250 a bracket, how many times can I enter? Since it's your money, the decent thing to do is ask...

$250 covers MY bracket. You can enter as many times as you like.

YOUR cost is $250 a bracket.

I don't gamble. Sorry. But I will play for your money.

Someone needs to explain to you how risk vs. reward works.

I'm already in a $100 bracket with 64 teams.

1st place $4000/ 2nd - $1000, 3rd $750, 4th $250, 5-8 $100..tax free $ rules

It's only what I do for a living but I'm sure I'd learn a lot from the likes of you. I'd love to hear your take on the utility theory of money and what value I would place on various options.

 

Though if all of the players were as arrogant as you, I might play, but in that case it wouldn't be gambling.

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Sorry I thought there were some adults in here. A true fan will put his $$ where his picks are.

Continue on with your amateur frat boy Pick Em.

Did not realize Midwesterners did not gamble. I'll go sit at the adult table now.

 

A "true fan" or a gambling degenerate. Either or.

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Sorry I thought there were some adults in here. A true fan will put his $$ where his picks are.

Continue on with your amateur frat boy Pick Em.

Did not realize Midwesterners did not gamble. I'll go sit at the adult table now.

 

A "true fan" or a gambling degenerate. Either or.

A true fan doesn't have to have a monetary interest in the game in order to watch it.

 

Not that I care what DS thinks about anything.

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Sorry I thought there were some adults in here. A true fan will put his $$ where his picks are.

Continue on with your amateur frat boy Pick Em.

Did not realize Midwesterners did not gamble. I'll go sit at the adult table now.

 

A "true fan" or a gambling degenerate. Either or.

A true fan doesn't have to have a monetary interest in the game in order to watch it.

 

Not that I care what DS thinks about anything.

Not that I care what Laughing gas thinks either.

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Sorry I thought there were some adults in here. A true fan will put his $$ where his picks are.

Continue on with your amateur frat boy Pick Em.

Did not realize Midwesterners did not gamble. I'll go sit at the adult table now.

 

A "true fan" or a gambling degenerate. Either or.

A true fan doesn't have to have a monetary interest in the game in order to watch it.

 

Not that I care what DS thinks about anything.

Not that I care what Laughing gas thinks either.

You write your own material?

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Sorry I thought there were some adults in here. A true fan will put his $$ where his picks are.

Continue on with your amateur frat boy Pick Em.

Did not realize Midwesterners did not gamble. I'll go sit at the adult table now.

 

A "true fan" or a gambling degenerate. Either or.

A true fan doesn't have to have a monetary interest in the game in order to watch it.

 

Not that I care what DS thinks about anything.

Not that I care what Laughing gas thinks either.

You write your own material?

Please...No way I AM that talented.

I steal from a guy who trades penny stocks in Minnesota. He's a blast

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