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[JohnnyBlaze]

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

JARG, on 14 January 2016 - 05:59 PM, said:

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

The Analog Teen, on 14 January 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:

We already have a dedicated thread for Permanent Waves being 70's or 80's, let's keep it away from ruining celebrating how great it is!

If someone incorrectly mentions the 80's I will politely correct them. Permanent Waves wasn't "born" January 14th, it was released for sale to the public. The album existed before January 14th 1980.

Best RUSH album ever!

We celebrate my daughter's birthday on the same day each year as the day she was released from her mother's womb. We call that her birthday.

Exactly you don't celebrate the day she was taken home from the hospital, hugs and holding to be shared with family and friends.

So if your birthday is in January, the proper way to celebrate it would be in December or even earlier?

What's in your cigars?

[JohnRogers]

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

[Lucas]

"Jacob, come on, wake up .. it's the 80s"

Edited by Lucas, 14 January 2016 - 07:39 PM.

[AnEggplant]

My 5th favorite album, truly a masterpiece! The best of the 80s for sure.

[EagleMoon]

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

It sure did. Official release date was January 1st. 1980 (not the 14th) and the music existed and was played in the 70's.

[JARG]

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

My daughter physically existed before her birthday.

[grasbo]

JARG, on 14 January 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

My daughter physically existed before her birthday.

So did my sister but she didn't come up for air until 1/1/65.

[Irenicus]

JARG, on 14 January 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

My daughter physically existed before her birthday.

But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979.

[RUSHHEAD666]

Irenicus, on 15 January 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

JARG, on 14 January 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

My daughter physically existed before her birthday.

But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979.

PW was made in 1979 and released in 1980.    Oh well.  In my mind it's not an 80's album.  MP is.

Once Neil chopped off his fukking hair the Seventies came to an end.  JMO

Irenius!  NICE AVATAR!  "A Clockwork Orange" blows "Clockwork Angels" away!!!

Signed,

"Singing In The Rain"

[JARG]

Irenicus, on 15 January 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

JARG, on 14 January 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

My daughter physically existed before her birthday.

But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979.

She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered.

[Grover]

Where was Permanent Waves released on January 14th?

[Grover]

January 14 must be the Mercury release date. Since I got into Rush in 1980 I have repeatedly read that January 1, 1980 was the release date.

[YYZ Working Man]

The stars over Morin Heights  must have been perfectly alligned Late 79/80 to create this gem

[jjgittes]

As JARG pointed out earlier, this was the "transition" album where Rush "abandoned" their messages steeped in Sci-fi themes and began a more direct path of what they wanted to say. I remember getting into my, dare I admit I ever owned one, Ford Maverick, one Saturday in mid-January, starting the engine and hearing SOR on the AM radio(I know for you youngsters it sounds like a made-up fantasy that low-end cars had AM only!!) I was shocked, saddened, and even upset that Rush changed. "WTF?" might have applied but that word wasn't invented yet.

[jamie]

I thought it was released on January 1st?

[JohnRogers]

jjgittes, on 17 January 2016 - 12:26 AM, said:

As JARG pointed out earlier, this was the "transition" album where Rush "abandoned" their messages steeped in Sci-fi themes and began a more direct path of what they wanted to say. I remember getting into my, dare I admit I ever owned one, Ford Maverick, one Saturday in mid-January, starting the engine and hearing SOR on the AM radio(I know for you youngsters it sounds like a made-up fantasy that low-end cars had AM only!!)    I was shocked, saddened, and even upset that Rush changed. "WTF?" might have applied but that word wasn't invented yet.

Maverick Grabber with a small block V8???

[jjgittes]

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Maverick Grabber with a small block V8???

Woh, nice memory, JohnRorgers. No Grabber for me, my dad believed the cops would bust me in that "fancy" model. Had to settle for all white but, get ready for this-a vinyl roof!! Funny enough I got about  6+ years out of that thing. Might have driven it longer but couldn't pass up the chance to "upgrade(?)" to a Honda Civic hatchback.

Edited by jjgittes, 17 January 2016 - 10:58 PM.

[Irenicus]

JARG, on 15 January 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

Irenicus, on 15 January 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

JARG, on 14 January 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

My daughter physically existed before her birthday.

But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979.

She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered.

Well, Permanent Waves was made public already in 1979 as was often stated. Promotional copies were sent out to journalists, some songs were played on radio or live in concert, some stores already sold the album shortly before release date... So yeah, that whole point is void too. No matter how you turn it around, PW is clearly a creation of the 70s. Even if you argue about how the songwriting sounds, only TSOR and maybe Freewill could be argued as being somewhat 80s like, which is not even half of the album. But then, just because something is ahead of its time, doesn't mean it doesn't "belong" to its time anymore. And release dates are irrelevant, especially since they are almost always determined by the labels and not the band.

[JARG]

Irenicus, on 18 January 2016 - 04:53 AM, said:

JARG, on 15 January 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

Irenicus, on 15 January 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

JARG, on 14 January 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

My daughter physically existed before her birthday.

But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979.

She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered.

Well, Permanent Waves was made public already in 1979 as was often stated. Promotional copies were sent out to journalists, some songs were played on radio or live in concert, some stores already sold the album shortly before release date... So yeah, that whole point is void too. No matter how you turn it around, PW is clearly a creation of the 70s. Even if you argue about how the songwriting sounds, only TSOR and maybe Freewill could be argued as being somewhat 80s like, which is not even half of the album. But then, just because something is ahead of its time, doesn't mean it doesn't "belong" to its time anymore. And release dates are irrelevant, especially since they are almost always determined by the labels and not the band.

Good stuff. What date would you recommend as PW's "birthday"?

[HemiBeers]

JARG, on 15 January 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

Irenicus, on 15 January 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

JARG, on 14 January 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

JohnRogers, on 14 January 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Albums don't have birthdays. The album physically existed before January 14th.

My daughter physically existed before her birthday.

But she wasn't "finished" so to say, unlike Permanent Waves in 1979.

She could easily have been delivered before the date she actually was, but that's irrelevant, since the date we celebrate her birthday is the date she was "made public". All that other stuff is just gestation and waiting around to be delivered.

It's quite simple...like baking cookies. Before it comes out of the oven, it's just batter in some form. When it comes out of the oven, it's a cookie.

Edited by 2112FirstStreet, 18 January 2016 - 10:21 AM.