Legacy if T4E Marked the End

[Union 5-3992]

I been a fan since 78.

[circumstantial tree]

Test for Echo would have been a horrible ending for the band.

[bathory]

I'd have a few less t-shirts

[Narps]

I'd have a few less t-shirts

Amen to that...

[JARG]

How would you feel aboot the band?

Much more charitable than I do now.

Care to elaborate a little? I'm genuinely curious.

I think they lasted well beyond their expiration date. I would love for them to have retired closer to their peak than they have (or will, perhaps).

[JARG]

Ugh. Another trendy High Water hater. ;)

It's a pretty banal song with a hideously aimless solo.

[Digital Dad]

Ugh. Another trendy High Water hater. ;)

It's a pretty banal song with a hideously aimless solo.

 

Hipster.

[bluefox4000]

Considering the albums we got........much better off.

 

hey the question was asked, lol

 

Mick

[AnEggplant]

Considering the albums we got........much better off.

 

hey the question was asked, lol

 

Mick

 

I thought you liked Snakes...

[goose]

Considering the albums we got........much better off.

 

hey the question was asked, lol

 

Mick

 

I thought you liked Snakes...

Doesn't compensate for his hatred of Arrows. Edited November 23, 2015 by goose

[AnEggplant]

Considering the albums we got........much better off.

 

hey the question was asked, lol

 

Mick

 

I thought you liked Snakes...

Doesn't compensate for his hatred of Arrows.

 

Very true. Personally I like both but I hate 'and'.

[djflex]

I am glad they didnt. I think of all the shows i would have missed. Many of them with new friends who i had not seen rush with before. At least 3 of them with my wife as well. Those memories just couldn't be replaced. Also there were times when i did not have the time or resources to be the fan i can be today. Plus i never would have joined this forum, then what would have happened ? Edited November 23, 2015 by djflex

[goose]

Considering the albums we got........much better off.

 

hey the question was asked, lol

 

Mick

 

I thought you liked Snakes...

Doesn't compensate for his hatred of Arrows.

 

Very true. Personally I like both but I hate 'and'.

F'in ampersand!

 

:laughing guy:

[bluefox4000]

Considering the albums we got........much better off.

 

hey the question was asked, lol

 

Mick

 

I thought you liked Snakes...

 

i do but it's nothing essential.

 

Like Modern Rush in General.......nothing Essential, IMO of course

 

Mick

[Rushman14]

I've seen every tour since AFTK and loved them all. If they've got any rocket sauce left in the tank. bring it. Edited November 23, 2015 by Rushman14

[bathory]

r40 and CA are good notes to end on. pressing on post-hiatus led to the documentary and TV/movie appearances that helped inject some new life into rush's fanbase... not that I give a shit what people think about rush because I'd like them either way, but rush in the past 6 or 7 years have become "cool" and I think it really helped their overall "legacy", because when I first got into them in 2008-ish right before the documentary and "slappin da bass" and all that shit, rush were generally seen as on the same level as, well, most people here like those bands, but stuff like styx and asia are seen as jokes by a lot of music fans, and rush was always lumped into that category by people who didn't know better. now you've got bands coming out every week eager to namedrop rush as an influence, "hip" bands like tool and smashing pumpkins, and I think a lot of people who had previously written off rush as dinosaur rock gave them the attention they deserved.

 

I even had a high school teacher who was in his 30's who had always kinda been snobby towards rush until the documentary came out and he started checking out their albums and realized they were f***ing amazing. you had to film bastille day and put it all over VH1 and netflix for some of these fools to get it. so no, even if I'd never gotten to see them live, I wouldn't say they'd be better off calling it quits after T4E.

 

really, the best thing to help rush's legacy would've been for one of them to die after moving pictures. guys like cobain and hendrix died in their prime and they're f***ing untouchable. but the next best thing would've been to retire now. to go out after a lackluster record like T4E would've just made them look bad.

 

of course, this is just me assuming that the documentary wouldn't have existed if they'd split after T4E, but one of the best parts of the documentary, to me and a lot of viewers anyway, was the idea that rush always persevere... "his family died and... the end!" would've been a bummer and a lame note to go out on. the fact that neil went on this "spiritual journey" or whatever the f**k to clear his head and go through mourning just added an extra layer of coolness to rush, and it was inspiring that these men in their 50s still listened to new music, were still excited (at that point in time) about making music, and it gave rush something that the other "dad's favorites"-type bands lacked.

 

jesus, what a long f***ing post

[Tombstone Mountain]

I've seen every tour since AFTK and loved them all. If they've got any rocket sauce left in the tank. bring it.

Dude there's more than fumes in dat tank. I'll bet we see two more studio albums from the boys!

 

THUS SAYETH THE YUKON BLADE GRINDER

[bathory]

I've seen every tour since AFTK and loved them all. If they've got any rocket sauce left in the tank. bring it.

Dude there's more than fumes in dat tank. I'll bet we see two more studio albums from the boys!

 

THUS SAYETH THE YUKON BLADE GRINDER

 

you're insane

[EagleMoon]

r40 and CA are good notes to end on. pressing on post-hiatus led to the documentary and TV/movie appearances that helped inject some new life into rush's fanbase... not that I give a shit what people think about rush because I'd like them either way, but rush in the past 6 or 7 years have become "cool" and I think it really helped their overall "legacy", because when I first got into them in 2008-ish right before the documentary and "slappin da bass" and all that shit, rush were generally seen as on the same level as, well, most people here like those bands, but stuff like styx and asia are seen as jokes by a lot of music fans, and rush was always lumped into that category by people who didn't know better. now you've got bands coming out every week eager to namedrop rush as an influence, "hip" bands like tool and smashing pumpkins, and I think a lot of people who had previously written off rush as dinosaur rock gave them the attention they deserved.

 

I even had a high school teacher who was in his 30's who had always kinda been snobby towards rush until the documentary came out and he started checking out their albums and realized they were f***ing amazing. you had to film bastille day and put it all over VH1 and netflix for some of these fools to get it. so no, even if I'd never gotten to see them live, I wouldn't say they'd be better off calling it quits after T4E.

 

really, the best thing to help rush's legacy would've been for one of them to die after moving pictures. guys like cobain and hendrix died in their prime and they're f***ing untouchable. but the next best thing would've been to retire now. to go out after a lackluster record like T4E would've just made them look bad.

 

of course, this is just me assuming that the documentary wouldn't have existed if they'd split after T4E, but one of the best parts of the documentary, to me and a lot of viewers anyway, was the idea that rush always persevere... "his family died and... the end!" would've been a bummer and a lame note to go out on. the fact that neil went on this "spiritual journey" or whatever the f**k to clear his head and go through mourning just added an extra layer of coolness to rush, and it was inspiring that these men in their 50s still listened to new music, were still excited (at that point in time) about making music, and it gave rush something that the other "dad's favorites"-type bands lacked.

 

jesus, what a long f***ing post

 

I love how you assume to speak for people about music from years before you were born.

[JARG]

r40 and CA are good notes to end on. pressing on post-hiatus led to the documentary and TV/movie appearances that helped inject some new life into rush's fanbase... not that I give a shit what people think about rush because I'd like them either way, but rush in the past 6 or 7 years have become "cool" and I think it really helped their overall "legacy", because when I first got into them in 2008-ish right before the documentary and "slappin da bass" and all that shit, rush were generally seen as on the same level as, well, most people here like those bands, but stuff like styx and asia are seen as jokes by a lot of music fans, and rush was always lumped into that category by people who didn't know better. now you've got bands coming out every week eager to namedrop rush as an influence, "hip" bands like tool and smashing pumpkins, and I think a lot of people who had previously written off rush as dinosaur rock gave them the attention they deserved.

 

I even had a high school teacher who was in his 30's who had always kinda been snobby towards rush until the documentary came out and he started checking out their albums and realized they were f***ing amazing. you had to film bastille day and put it all over VH1 and netflix for some of these fools to get it. so no, even if I'd never gotten to see them live, I wouldn't say they'd be better off calling it quits after T4E.

 

really, the best thing to help rush's legacy would've been for one of them to die after moving pictures. guys like cobain and hendrix died in their prime and they're f***ing untouchable. but the next best thing would've been to retire now. to go out after a lackluster record like T4E would've just made them look bad.

 

of course, this is just me assuming that the documentary wouldn't have existed if they'd split after T4E, but one of the best parts of the documentary, to me and a lot of viewers anyway, was the idea that rush always persevere... "his family died and... the end!" would've been a bummer and a lame note to go out on. the fact that neil went on this "spiritual journey" or whatever the f**k to clear his head and go through mourning just added an extra layer of coolness to rush, and it was inspiring that these men in their 50s still listened to new music, were still excited (at that point in time) about making music, and it gave rush something that the other "dad's favorites"-type bands lacked.

 

jesus, what a long f***ing post

 

I love how you assume to speak for people about music from years before you were born.

 

Easy now. If I had a son, he'd presume just like bathory. :)

[Tombstone Mountain]

I've seen every tour since AFTK and loved them all. If they've got any rocket sauce left in the tank. bring it.

Dude there's more than fumes in dat tank. I'll bet we see two more studio albums from the boys!

 

THUS SAYETH THE YUKON BLADE GRINDER

 

you're insane

Taken you this long to figure that out?

 

As long as they're alive, an album is always a possibility. They're musicians and life long friends.

[bathory]

r40 and CA are good notes to end on. pressing on post-hiatus led to the documentary and TV/movie appearances that helped inject some new life into rush's fanbase... not that I give a shit what people think about rush because I'd like them either way, but rush in the past 6 or 7 years have become "cool" and I think it really helped their overall "legacy", because when I first got into them in 2008-ish right before the documentary and "slappin da bass" and all that shit, rush were generally seen as on the same level as, well, most people here like those bands, but stuff like styx and asia are seen as jokes by a lot of music fans, and rush was always lumped into that category by people who didn't know better. now you've got bands coming out every week eager to namedrop rush as an influence, "hip" bands like tool and smashing pumpkins, and I think a lot of people who had previously written off rush as dinosaur rock gave them the attention they deserved.

 

I even had a high school teacher who was in his 30's who had always kinda been snobby towards rush until the documentary came out and he started checking out their albums and realized they were f***ing amazing. you had to film bastille day and put it all over VH1 and netflix for some of these fools to get it. so no, even if I'd never gotten to see them live, I wouldn't say they'd be better off calling it quits after T4E.

 

really, the best thing to help rush's legacy would've been for one of them to die after moving pictures. guys like cobain and hendrix died in their prime and they're f***ing untouchable. but the next best thing would've been to retire now. to go out after a lackluster record like T4E would've just made them look bad.

 

of course, this is just me assuming that the documentary wouldn't have existed if they'd split after T4E, but one of the best parts of the documentary, to me and a lot of viewers anyway, was the idea that rush always persevere... "his family died and... the end!" would've been a bummer and a lame note to go out on. the fact that neil went on this "spiritual journey" or whatever the f**k to clear his head and go through mourning just added an extra layer of coolness to rush, and it was inspiring that these men in their 50s still listened to new music, were still excited (at that point in time) about making music, and it gave rush something that the other "dad's favorites"-type bands lacked.

 

jesus, what a long f***ing post

 

I love how you assume to speak for people about music from years before you were born.

 

I didn't mean to insult your favorite casino rockers, but stuff like styx and starship and even bands I love like blue oyster cult are seen as lame "dinosaur" rock by a lot of people. nothing any of us can do about it. rush have managed to separate themselves from that image and stay semi-relevant and respected. I'm sorry your other favorite bands haven't been able to.

[bathory]

r40 and CA are good notes to end on. pressing on post-hiatus led to the documentary and TV/movie appearances that helped inject some new life into rush's fanbase... not that I give a shit what people think about rush because I'd like them either way, but rush in the past 6 or 7 years have become "cool" and I think it really helped their overall "legacy", because when I first got into them in 2008-ish right before the documentary and "slappin da bass" and all that shit, rush were generally seen as on the same level as, well, most people here like those bands, but stuff like styx and asia are seen as jokes by a lot of music fans, and rush was always lumped into that category by people who didn't know better. now you've got bands coming out every week eager to namedrop rush as an influence, "hip" bands like tool and smashing pumpkins, and I think a lot of people who had previously written off rush as dinosaur rock gave them the attention they deserved.

 

I even had a high school teacher who was in his 30's who had always kinda been snobby towards rush until the documentary came out and he started checking out their albums and realized they were f***ing amazing. you had to film bastille day and put it all over VH1 and netflix for some of these fools to get it. so no, even if I'd never gotten to see them live, I wouldn't say they'd be better off calling it quits after T4E.

 

really, the best thing to help rush's legacy would've been for one of them to die after moving pictures. guys like cobain and hendrix died in their prime and they're f***ing untouchable. but the next best thing would've been to retire now. to go out after a lackluster record like T4E would've just made them look bad.

 

of course, this is just me assuming that the documentary wouldn't have existed if they'd split after T4E, but one of the best parts of the documentary, to me and a lot of viewers anyway, was the idea that rush always persevere... "his family died and... the end!" would've been a bummer and a lame note to go out on. the fact that neil went on this "spiritual journey" or whatever the f**k to clear his head and go through mourning just added an extra layer of coolness to rush, and it was inspiring that these men in their 50s still listened to new music, were still excited (at that point in time) about making music, and it gave rush something that the other "dad's favorites"-type bands lacked.

 

jesus, what a long f***ing post

 

I love how you assume to speak for people about music from years before you were born.

 

Easy now. If I had a son, he'd presume just like bathory. :)

 

I hate to break it to all you people who think "I can't fight this feeling anymore" is a more important rock song than "smells like teen spirit" but....

[bathory]

just to clarify, I'm speaking as a younger music fan who has heard a lot of music that was released in the past 25 years and knows more about what younger music fans think (because I, as a young person, know more young people). please don't feel insulted by this. I was never, in any of my posts, presuming to speak for the 50 year-olds. everyone can like what they like, and if you're into what you're into, even if you think steve perry's solo work is better than the white stripes, that's a great thing. but public perception might not always go along with what you think about a band. I'm a fan of a lot of bands that are considered uncool and it doesn't bother me. :)

[Jaminbenb]

Had they called it quits after the T4E album, I would have been glad that I was able to see them on that tour! I sort of fell out of sorts with them throughout the Hold Your Fire, Presto, Roll the Bones era...I thought Counterparts was a good comeback (and wasn't able to see them on that tour) and that T4E wasn't a GREAT album, but had some moments that were better than the prior to Counterparts era.

 

I honestly figured that THAT was it, and that I'd never get to see them again. The fact that both Alex and Geddy had their solo albums out, told me that something was up, and that they were grasping at straws to keep working.

 

When the Vapor Trails rumblings came out, I made SURE that I would see them (regardless of whether I liked the albums or not) each and every tour until they really DID call it quits!

 

If Neil DID go into hermit mode, I would have been mad, but would have made sure that I found bootlegs to keep me occupied as a contingency. (and I did collect a lot more during that period of time)