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Posted 15 October 2015 - 05:44 PM

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View PostAnthemic, on 15 October 2015 - 01:40 PM, said:

we all know that the person who needs to change his mind is neil.

If Sean Connery can change his mind about playing Bond, then Neil can change his mind about playing live. Anything can happen..

Connery was hugely rewarded for playing Bond again.  He got to feel up Kim Basinger..... :drool: :drool:

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 06:01 PM

View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 06:03 PM

No...

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 06:38 PM

I always got the impression Alex and Geddy were never that close to Neil outside of business.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 06:56 PM

View PostLorraine, on 15 October 2015 - 06:38 PM, said:

I always got the impression Alex and Geddy were never that close to Neil outside of business.
Same here. Right from the get go...

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 06:57 PM

I like the idiots throwing things were frustrated Leafs fans comment....  and that his wife doesn't get the wine collection hobby...   haha

Cool interview with Geddy.  thanks for posting.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:23 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:26 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:33 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

I'm missing the "point."  Would you explain it to me please?

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:35 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

I'm missing the "point."  Would you explain it to me please?
You know they've always told you selfishness was wrong.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:36 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

I'm missing the "point."  Would you explain it to me please?
The lyrics to the song.
Live for yourself there's no one else more worth living for etc etc... :)

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:38 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

I'm missing the "point."  Would you explain it to me please?
You know they've always told you selfishness was wrong.

Eh?  Speaking plainly LABT!  And who is this "they"?  

Are you saying that his two best friends are $$?

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:40 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

I'm missing the "point."  Would you explain it to me please?
You know they've always told you selfishness was wrong.

Eh?  Speaking plainly LABT!  And who is this "they"?  

Are you saying that his two best friends are $$?
Brutus and himself I'm guessing.   In some order.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:45 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

I'm missing the "point."  Would you explain it to me please?
The lyrics to the song.
Live for yourself there's no one else more worth living for etc etc... :)

Oh.  That's one of those songs I always skip.  

But, most appropriate lyrics for him at this time in his life:

"Know your place in life is where you want to be
Don't let them tell you that you owe it all to me
Keep on looking forward; no use in looking 'round
Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down"

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:46 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

I'm missing the "point."  Would you explain it to me please?
The lyrics to the song.
Live for yourself there's no one else more worth living for etc etc... :)

Oh.  That's one of those songs I always skip.  

But, most appropriate lyrics for him at this time in his life:

"Know your place in life is where you want to be
Don't let them tell you that you owe it all to me
Keep on looking forward; no use in looking 'round
Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down"
You skip Anthem??? :o

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:47 PM

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:52 PM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 15 October 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

I don't blame Neil at all.  I would love to see them again but if I was in his place I wouldn't want to do it either.  He has to feel a great deal of guilt over all the things he missed when he was touring while his first daughter was growing up.  He's already older and not guaranteed to see this daughter grow up completely.  He has money and a great legacy and went out with a great album and tour.

But should screwing over his two best friends and millions of Rush fans be part of the deal?
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind...
On point... :cheers:

I'm missing the "point."  Would you explain it to me please?
The lyrics to the song.
Live for yourself there's no one else more worth living for etc etc... :)

Oh.  That's one of those songs I always skip.  

But, most appropriate lyrics for him at this time in his life:

"Know your place in life is where you want to be
Don't let them tell you that you owe it all to me
Keep on looking forward; no use in looking 'round
Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down"
You skip Anthem??? :o

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:56 PM

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I think that Geddy was being respectful to the other members of the band more than anything with his answers on touring.  He obviously doesn't want it to be over, but it's way too early for him to speculate on the possibility of touring/recording down the road.

I will be sorry if it's over, but I certainly would hold no ill will against any of them if it never happens again.  They've done their time.

I know it's weird but there is a part of me that is mad at Neil for being selfish. The rational hemisphere of my brain understands that after 40 years of hard work he wants to retire, and he has earned it. The emotional hemisphere is acting like a spoiled brat - how dare he retire and take that pleasure away from me?

I am usually rational, pragmatic and realistic so to me it's strange that I have this little corner of resentment bubbling away...

When I think about it, I always end up with Neil's young daughter.  There has to be some guilt within him regarding the loss of time he had with Selena because he was "on the road".  He has the right to make sure that never happens again.  I can't fault the man for that no matter how much I would like to see them perform again.
From what I understand and I don't read his blogs and books Lord knows but isn't he away from home a bunch anyway? That's what I have heard around here anyway. Always traveling all over creation on his motorcycle etc etc... :huh:

Generally not for months at a time unless he's on tour.
Ok. Thanks...

Yep.  This.

Does Neil travel alone from time-to-time?  Does he go out riding with a friend from time-to-time?  Yes.   But a lot of his blogging also hints at time with close friends and family, and more than one post in recent years has been very specific to the fact his family is pulling him to stay at home.  Even if he had traveled, say, 6 months out of the year (a very unrealistic and high estimate, I bet), why would him deciding to not do that now be a bad thing?  (Narps and Badger, I am not saying you would say that... I am more suggesting the Neil haters would argue it).

Among the Neil haters, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.  If he travels and blogs about it... he's selfish for not spending all his time with his family.  If he spends time with his family and stops touring.... he's selfish for not giving the fans what they want.

:huh:

PS  Badger, I respect the fact you see the folly in the emotional response to Neil's decision.  It's a lot further along than some folks on this grand social diaspora we call the internet.  There's a lot of irrational hate being directed at Neil these days.  Not that there isn't a lot of that all the time, but there is more than normal.

Edited by WorkingAllTheTime, 15 October 2015 - 08:00 PM.


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Posted 15 October 2015 - 08:00 PM

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View PostNarps, on 15 October 2015 - 04:30 PM, said:

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View Postctbadger, on 15 October 2015 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostRelayer2112, on 15 October 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

I think that Geddy was being respectful to the other members of the band more than anything with his answers on touring.  He obviously doesn't want it to be over, but it's way too early for him to speculate on the possibility of touring/recording down the road.

I will be sorry if it's over, but I certainly would hold no ill will against any of them if it never happens again.  They've done their time.

I know it's weird but there is a part of me that is mad at Neil for being selfish. The rational hemisphere of my brain understands that after 40 years of hard work he wants to retire, and he has earned it. The emotional hemisphere is acting like a spoiled brat - how dare he retire and take that pleasure away from me?

I am usually rational, pragmatic and realistic so to me it's strange that I have this little corner of resentment bubbling away...

When I think about it, I always end up with Neil's young daughter.  There has to be some guilt within him regarding the loss of time he had with Selena because he was "on the road".  He has the right to make sure that never happens again.  I can't fault the man for that no matter how much I would like to see them perform again.
From what I understand and I don't read his blogs and books Lord knows but isn't he away from home a bunch anyway? That's what I have heard around here anyway. Always traveling all over creation on his motorcycle etc etc... :huh:

Generally not for months at a time unless he's on tour.
Ok. Thanks...

Yep.  This.

Does Neil travel alone from time-to-time?  Does he go out riding with a friend from time-to-time?  Yes.   But a lot of his blogging also hints at time with close friends and family, and more than one post in recent years has been very specific to the fact his family is pulling him to stay at home.  Even if he had traveled, say, 6 months out of the year (a very unrealistic and high estimate, I bet), why would him deciding to not do that now be a bad thing?  (Narps and Badger, I am not saying you would say that... I am more suggesting the Neil haters would argue it).

Among the Neil haters, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.  If he travels and blogs about it... he's selfish for not spending all his time with his family.  If he spends time with his family and stops touring.... he's selfish for not giving the fans what they want.

:huh:
I honestly don't care. He should retire and do what he wants as far as I am concerned. I just raised the question...

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 08:02 PM

I'd do it (get out of the limelight and do what I felt like doing and only that) if I could




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