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#21 jamie

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:54 AM

I couldn't imagine them ending their career in LA. This just doesn't seem like it could be their last show.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:23 PM

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

View PostDigital Dad, on 28 July 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 08:07 AM, said:

Just read this in another topic:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 12:17 AM, said:

Honestly, there are about a hundred other Rush songs I'd rather hear in LA than Losing It.

LOL, I honestly I have no idea why that song is so revered. And I love Signals. It's my fave Rush album. There are at least 5 other Signals tracks I'd rather hear than Losing It.

I have heard rumblings that the Forum gig will get an outta the blue shocker one-time-only deep cut. I've even heard what it might be. Hint. C.P. ;)

As usual he is talking out his arse.

I'm curious though to see if he's got this one right. Overall he's being a real killjoy here on the forum :(

Am I?

Well, the good news is, we only have a few days left before these premises become a lot less crowded. I won't be coming back after Friday evening. No need for visits to a fan forum after Saturday.  So breathe easier, ye keepers of the flame. Your online hopes will soon be unfettered with nasty realists. :)

Bard, I know you think you know it all, but sometimes you state things so bluntly without really telling what you (may) know. Let those of us who still want to dream in your opinion just dream :) That's also what being a fan is about. I know that sooner or later they'll 'quit their jobs'. But if two out of three are not completley done yet who knows what might be in store. With or without Neil in tow :)

And, what you're leaving TRF after Friday evening? You just give up? It's still fun to hang around here :cheers:  Yes, even when they're done (touring).

Alex is playing in pain. Rest assured, he'll be taking a nice long break from playing the guitar. It's not just Neil that wants to gracefully step out of the spotlights.

1 of 3 will be interested in recording. A solo record from Dirk is very probable. There may even be a humble club tour behind it.

I don't really see it as blunt. It's simple realism. Admittedly, I get impatient with the fanboyism, that's on me. But after reading so much self gratuitous opinions (these 'hopes' are often founded in seemingly base human greed - i.e., "I want more Rush and I don't care if they want/need to retire or not"), it gets old. Wish the Canucks well and if they decide to come out in a few years for a couple nights at Madison Square Garden, great. But expecting more touring is pretty selfish, given what they've already given to the fanbase. Far more than the usual. Rush fans are a spoiled lot. You want to be a really frustrated fan? Try heralding Van Halen. Or the Police. Or the Kinks. Or Guns n Roses. One might rightfully say that the only two bands on the planet who've consistently given to the fanbase time and time again consistently for the last 30 years are Rush and U2.

I definitely don't know much. Much less know 'it all.' But I know Rush's last official touring show is on Saturday.

And no, I don't stick around message boards when bands are retiring. Two of my three favorite bands are retiring this year. It's a sign of the times. My era is passing. That's why so many people are resistant. Nobody likes staring mortality in the face. Especially when the internet literally shows us these fades step by step, page by page, year by year.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:28 PM

two of your favourite bands, who is the other one? The Who? When you say C.P. do you mean counterparts?

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:33 PM

"Alex is playing in pain. Rest assured, he'll be taking a nice long break from playing the guitar"

But I thought that the RS article quotes him as saying that is his favorite thing to do, kick back and just play for a couple hours every day.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:41 PM

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Nobody likes staring mortality in the face. Especially when the internet literally shows us these fades step by step, page by page, year by year.

It is very hard.  We were there when all of these bands first began, and here they are old men, some of whom (thinking especially of the ghastly Robert Plant) now bear a faint (if any) resemblance to their younger self.

And I'm not a teenager anymore either.  :codger: :unsure: :cool: :lol:

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:42 PM

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

View PostDigital Dad, on 28 July 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 08:07 AM, said:

Just read this in another topic:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 12:17 AM, said:

Honestly, there are about a hundred other Rush songs I'd rather hear in LA than Losing It.

LOL, I honestly I have no idea why that song is so revered. And I love Signals. It's my fave Rush album. There are at least 5 other Signals tracks I'd rather hear than Losing It.

I have heard rumblings that the Forum gig will get an outta the blue shocker one-time-only deep cut. I've even heard what it might be. Hint. C.P. ;)

As usual he is talking out his arse.

I'm curious though to see if he's got this one right. Overall he's being a real killjoy here on the forum :(

Am I?

Well, the good news is, we only have a few days left before these premises become a lot less crowded. I won't be coming back after Friday evening. No need for visits to a fan forum after Saturday.  So breathe easier, ye keepers of the flame. Your online hopes will soon be unfettered with nasty realists. :)

Bard, I know you think you know it all, but sometimes you state things so bluntly without really telling what you (may) know. Let those of us who still want to dream in your opinion just dream :) That's also what being a fan is about. I know that sooner or later they'll 'quit their jobs'. But if two out of three are not completley done yet who knows what might be in store. With or without Neil in tow :)

And, what you're leaving TRF after Friday evening? You just give up? It's still fun to hang around here :cheers:  Yes, even when they're done (touring).

Alex is playing in pain. Rest assured, he'll be taking a nice long break from playing the guitar. It's not just Neil that wants to gracefully step out of the spotlights.

1 of 3 will be interested in recording. A solo record from Dirk is very probable. There may even be a humble club tour behind it.

I don't really see it as blunt. It's simple realism. Admittedly, I get impatient with the fanboyism, that's on me. But after reading so much self gratuitous opinions (these 'hopes' are often founded in seemingly base human greed - i.e., "I want more Rush and I don't care if they want/need to retire or not"), it gets old. Wish the Canucks well and if they decide to come out in a few years for a couple nights at Madison Square Garden, great. But expecting more touring is pretty selfish, given what they've already given to the fanbase. Far more than the usual. Rush fans are a spoiled lot. You want to be a really frustrated fan? Try heralding Van Halen. Or the Police. Or the Kinks. Or Guns n Roses. One might rightfully say that the only two bands on the planet who've consistently given to the fanbase time and time again consistently for the last 30 years are Rush and U2.

I definitely don't know much. Much less know 'it all.' But I know Rush's last official touring show is on Saturday.

And no, I don't stick around message boards when bands are retiring. Two of my three favorite bands are retiring this year. It's a sign of the times. My era is passing. That's why so many people are resistant. Nobody likes staring mortality in the face. Especially when the internet literally shows us these fades step by step, page by page, year by year.

Dude again you're talking out of your arse. Alex just said in an interview that the arthritis thing is been blown way out of proportion and he said it's not that bad. And you know just as much as the rest of us, the last date on this leg of this tour is August 1.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:46 PM

View PostLorraine, on 28 July 2015 - 12:41 PM, said:

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Nobody likes staring mortality in the face. Especially when the internet literally shows us these fades step by step, page by page, year by year.

It is very hard.  We were there when all of these bands first began, and here they are old men, some of whom (thinking especially of the ghastly Robert Plant) now bear a faint (if any) resemblance to their younger self.

And I'm not a teenager anymore either.  :codger: :unsure: :cool: :lol:

No less for me, chica. I friggin' hate this getting old thing. And seeing my favorite bands fade away - by necessity, choice, or force - isn't fun either. As is watching all these TV and movie actors we grew up with, kick the bucket.

The 'net has given us a wide window into literally watching our age turn to dust. It's unsettling. Informative. But unsettling.

Plant still brings the goods, chica! Just saw him live a month or two ago. Outstanding stuff. He looks pretty good for a geezer. :)

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:47 PM

View PostXanadu, on 28 July 2015 - 11:50 AM, said:

If they play "Losing It" in LA, I will be very happy. I saw three shows so far, and I saw each set. Just saw A in Vegas, I saw B in Boston and I saw C in Chicago (how lucky can a person be?) and this will be the one song that has been played on the tour that has eluded me. So I am hopeful (but NOT discontent). :)
I got lucky in seeing A (Tulsa), B (Lincoln), and C (Dallas) in my first three shows, , then B again in Kansas City, but Losing It is playing hard-to-get, so either I make a miracle trip to LA or just face the reality that I' won't see it.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:48 PM

View Posthcm, on 28 July 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

"Alex is playing in pain. Rest assured, he'll be taking a nice long break from playing the guitar"

But I thought that the RS article quotes him as saying that is his favorite thing to do, kick back and just play for a couple hours every day.

Chilling in the backyard with the grandkids plunking an acoustic is a bit different than cranking a double neck in front of 20 thousand screamin' fans in the hot lights and sweaty arena stank. :)

His arthritis only gets worse the more he plays. That's how arthritis rolls. It's a bitch. Ever take a close look at Eddie Van Halen's knuckles? It ain't pretty. There's a reason.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:50 PM

View PostDigital Dad, on 28 July 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:


Dude again you're talking out of your arse. Alex just said in an interview that the arthritis thing is been blown way out of proportion and he said it's not that bad. And you know just as much as the rest of us, the last date on this leg of this tour is August 1.

If that's all you know, I know more than you, spud.

Time will prove one of us wrong. :)

If it's you, send a letter to Rush apologizing for all your illegal bootlegging. If it's me...well, it isn't me, so I won't have to do much. :)

Now here's a prime example, Lorraine, of a fella havin' trouble with his mortality. ;)

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:53 PM

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

View PostDigital Dad, on 28 July 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 08:07 AM, said:

Just read this in another topic:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 12:17 AM, said:

Honestly, there are about a hundred other Rush songs I'd rather hear in LA than Losing It.

LOL, I honestly I have no idea why that song is so revered. And I love Signals. It's my fave Rush album. There are at least 5 other Signals tracks I'd rather hear than Losing It.

I have heard rumblings that the Forum gig will get an outta the blue shocker one-time-only deep cut. I've even heard what it might be. Hint. C.P. ;)

As usual he is talking out his arse.

I'm curious though to see if he's got this one right. Overall he's being a real killjoy here on the forum :(

Am I?

Well, the good news is, we only have a few days left before these premises become a lot less crowded. I won't be coming back after Friday evening. No need for visits to a fan forum after Saturday.  So breathe easier, ye keepers of the flame. Your online hopes will soon be unfettered with nasty realists. :)

Bard, I know you think you know it all, but sometimes you state things so bluntly without really telling what you (may) know. Let those of us who still want to dream in your opinion just dream :) That's also what being a fan is about. I know that sooner or later they'll 'quit their jobs'. But if two out of three are not completley done yet who knows what might be in store. With or without Neil in tow :)

And, what you're leaving TRF after Friday evening? You just give up? It's still fun to hang around here :cheers:  Yes, even when they're done (touring).

Alex is playing in pain. Rest assured, he'll be taking a nice long break from playing the guitar. It's not just Neil that wants to gracefully step out of the spotlights.

1 of 3 will be interested in recording. A solo record from Dirk is very probable. There may even be a humble club tour behind it.

I don't really see it as blunt. It's simple realism. Admittedly, I get impatient with the fanboyism, that's on me. But after reading so much self gratuitous opinions (these 'hopes' are often founded in seemingly base human greed - i.e., "I want more Rush and I don't care if they want/need to retire or not"), it gets old. Wish the Canucks well and if they decide to come out in a few years for a couple nights at Madison Square Garden, great. But expecting more touring is pretty selfish, given what they've already given to the fanbase. Far more than the usual. Rush fans are a spoiled lot. You want to be a really frustrated fan? Try heralding Van Halen. Or the Police. Or the Kinks. Or Guns n Roses. One might rightfully say that the only two bands on the planet who've consistently given to the fanbase time and time again consistently for the last 30 years are Rush and U2.

I definitely don't know much. Much less know 'it all.' But I know Rush's last official touring show is on Saturday.

And no, I don't stick around message boards when bands are retiring. Two of my three favorite bands are retiring this year. It's a sign of the times. My era is passing. That's why so many people are resistant. Nobody likes staring mortality in the face. Especially when the internet literally shows us these fades step by step, page by page, year by year.

I'm not hoping or dreaming that they'll do more big / full scale tours. I'm not like those fans you describe in your post. I'm hoping that they'll do is what Al & Ged have already mentioned themselves: some one-off show here and there. And maybe just maybe surprise us European fans with 4 of 5 nights at the O2 in London ;) That's no real tour, just a return trip across the Atlantic.  

Bottom line is I just hope that not all of them are done being a (performing) musician and that they will perform every now and again. Solo, as a duo or as a three piece band. I'd love to see a Ged solo show one day btw :hail:

And why say goodbye to a forum like this? Yes, it may be a less crowded house in the future, but look at how many folks are still active fans of Zappa for instance. Here in The Netherands a Zappa day has been organized twice recently and it's been a succes. Just sayin' ;)

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:56 PM

Well Bard you are the one that said he would take a long break from playing the guitar....I didn't say he was going to be touring in front of 20K fans, just that he was quoted as saying how much he loves to play so it is unlikely that he would give it up.

Fwiw some arthritis actually gets better with movement...I don't personally know about what Alex suffers from but in my case my knees feel a lot better on the weeks I move than on the weeks I don't.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:59 PM

I predict there will not be anything special in LA besides Losing It. The band has never actually said, "Yeah, this is it. LA is our last show." So I can't imagine them pulling out some deep cut for the show.

I could see Rush playing a few gigs here and there on a much smaller scale, perhaps in residencies as has been discussed many times on the forums. They could even do a "tour" to support a new album this way if they wanted.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:02 PM

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:03 PM

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 12:50 PM, said:

View PostDigital Dad, on 28 July 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:


Dude again you're talking out of your arse. Alex just said in an interview that the arthritis thing is been blown way out of proportion and he said it's not that bad. And you know just as much as the rest of us, the last date on this leg of this tour is August 1.

If that's all you know, I know more than you, spud.

Time will prove one of us wrong. :)

If it's you, send a letter to Rush apologizing for all your illegal bootlegging. If it's me...well, it isn't me, so I won't have to do much. :)

Now here's a prime example, Lorraine, of a fella havin' trouble with his mortality. ;)

Illegal what?? You crazy dawg.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:04 PM

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 12:53 PM, said:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 11:24 AM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

View PostDigital Dad, on 28 July 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

View PostCatch The Mystery, on 28 July 2015 - 08:07 AM, said:

Just read this in another topic:

View PostBard, on 28 July 2015 - 12:17 AM, said:

Honestly, there are about a hundred other Rush songs I'd rather hear in LA than Losing It.

LOL, I honestly I have no idea why that song is so revered. And I love Signals. It's my fave Rush album. There are at least 5 other Signals tracks I'd rather hear than Losing It.

I have heard rumblings that the Forum gig will get an outta the blue shocker one-time-only deep cut. I've even heard what it might be. Hint. C.P. ;)

As usual he is talking out his arse.

I'm curious though to see if he's got this one right. Overall he's being a real killjoy here on the forum :(

Am I?

Well, the good news is, we only have a few days left before these premises become a lot less crowded. I won't be coming back after Friday evening. No need for visits to a fan forum after Saturday.  So breathe easier, ye keepers of the flame. Your online hopes will soon be unfettered with nasty realists. :)

Bard, I know you think you know it all, but sometimes you state things so bluntly without really telling what you (may) know. Let those of us who still want to dream in your opinion just dream :) That's also what being a fan is about. I know that sooner or later they'll 'quit their jobs'. But if two out of three are not completley done yet who knows what might be in store. With or without Neil in tow :)

And, what you're leaving TRF after Friday evening? You just give up? It's still fun to hang around here :cheers:  Yes, even when they're done (touring).

Alex is playing in pain. Rest assured, he'll be taking a nice long break from playing the guitar. It's not just Neil that wants to gracefully step out of the spotlights.

1 of 3 will be interested in recording. A solo record from Dirk is very probable. There may even be a humble club tour behind it.

I don't really see it as blunt. It's simple realism. Admittedly, I get impatient with the fanboyism, that's on me. But after reading so much self gratuitous opinions (these 'hopes' are often founded in seemingly base human greed - i.e., "I want more Rush and I don't care if they want/need to retire or not"), it gets old. Wish the Canucks well and if they decide to come out in a few years for a couple nights at Madison Square Garden, great. But expecting more touring is pretty selfish, given what they've already given to the fanbase. Far more than the usual. Rush fans are a spoiled lot. You want to be a really frustrated fan? Try heralding Van Halen. Or the Police. Or the Kinks. Or Guns n Roses. One might rightfully say that the only two bands on the planet who've consistently given to the fanbase time and time again consistently for the last 30 years are Rush and U2.

I definitely don't know much. Much less know 'it all.' But I know Rush's last official touring show is on Saturday.

And no, I don't stick around message boards when bands are retiring. Two of my three favorite bands are retiring this year. It's a sign of the times. My era is passing. That's why so many people are resistant. Nobody likes staring mortality in the face. Especially when the internet literally shows us these fades step by step, page by page, year by year.

I'm not hoping or dreaming that they'll do more big / full scale tours. I'm not like those fans you describe in your post. I'm hoping that they'll do is what Al & Ged have already mentioned themselves: some one-off show here and there. And maybe just maybe surprise us European fans with 4 of 5 nights at the O2 in London ;) That's no real tour, just a return trip across the Atlantic.  

Bottom line is I just hope that not all of them are done being a (performing) musician and that they will perform every now and again. Solo, as a duo or as a three piece band. I'd love to see a Ged solo show one day btw :hail:

And why say goodbye to a forum like this? Yes, it may be a less crowded house in the future, but look at how many folks are still active fans of Zappa for instance. Here in The Netherands a Zappa day has been organized twice recently and it's been a succes. Just sayin' ;)

Neil is done touring. You can wager on that. It's possible he might be talked into a one night stand here and there - almost certainly Los Angeles more than anywhere else, but even that is an outside chance at best.

Alex is near done. It hurts his hands to play at the arena level. For obvious reasons. He'd certainly come back for a one-off here and there.

Ged will record. In what capacity and manner, we will find out soon enough.

All good things, my friend. It's the way of the world.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:04 PM

Does anyone know if the LA show is going to be professionally filmed?  I would think if the band had a real sense that this was going to be it, they'd want it filmed...for the fans, if not for themselves.  Could be some real emotion going on, some special performances, etc., and it would be nice to get that on a DVD, instead of hoping someone got a good copy of it on their cellphone to watch on Youtube.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:06 PM

View Posthcm, on 28 July 2015 - 12:56 PM, said:

Well Bard you are the one that said he would take a long break from playing the guitar....I didn't say he was going to be touring in front of 20K fans, just that he was quoted as saying how much he loves to play so it is unlikely that he would give it up.

Fwiw some arthritis actually gets better with movement...I don't personally know about what Alex suffers from but in my case my knees feel a lot better on the weeks I move than on the weeks I don't.

It's not the same thing for most aging guitarists, man. Look it up. Plenty of info about that via google.

But there's little need to tit for tat how much Alex's arthritis can be tolerated for fans, I think.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:07 PM

View PostEagleMoon, on 28 July 2015 - 01:00 PM, said:

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Now I'm trolling?

Sayz the girl who hashed on everyone's signed items, LOL.

Not nice, chica.



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