Jump to content


CA Album Battle 15: Clockwork Angels vs. Counterparts

Segue Myles

  • Please log in to reply
77 replies to this topic

Poll: CA Album Battle 15: Clockwork Angels vs. Counterparts (60 member(s) have cast votes)

Which Is Best?

  1. Clockwork Angels (41 votes [68.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 68.33%

  2. Counterparts (19 votes [31.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 31.67%

Vote Guests cannot vote

#1 Segue Myles

Segue Myles

    Cupcake Warrior

  • Members
  • 32260 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom
  • Interests:Lacuna Coil
    Nightwish
    Within Temptation
    The Juliana Theory
    REM
    Thrice
    Idlewild
    Jimmy Eat World
    HIM
    Paradise Lost
    AFI
    U2
    Bruce Springsteen
    Sonata Arctica
    Pearl Jam
    Biffy Clyro
    Placebo

Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:33 PM

CP has two of my top fifteen Rush songs: Cold Fire and Everyday Glory.

Clockwork Angels doesn't have any songs in my top twenty.

But CA wins this round, because it has better lows than CP.

CP has garbage like Stick It Out. Actually, that's the only song of Rush I hate. The rest of the album is good. Just good. Until the last two.

CA might not come close to my favourite, but its a darn side more consistent, and not even CP with its good production can convince me otherwise.

CA (but I will have to ask for the two special songs off of CP please).

Sponsored Post

#2 Lorraine

Lorraine

    Dial-Up Diva

  • Members *
  • 42287 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:35 PM

I will go with CA too this time.  I like five songs from CA and only three from Counterparts.

#3 Cyclonus X-1

Cyclonus X-1

    Yurts >>>>>>> Gers

  • Members *
  • 61633 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Minnesota
  • Interests:Music, literature, sports.

Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:35 PM

This is really close for me.  These are my fifth- and sixth-favorite Rush albums.

Counterparts is fifth.

Edited by Cyclonus X-1, 13 June 2015 - 06:38 PM.


#4 laughedatbytime

laughedatbytime

    Twin City Cub Fan

  • Members *
  • 69763 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:suburban Minneapolis
  • Interests:women's Uggs, trying to compensate for my small hands, buying gifts for the equipment staff, smashing certain cell phones, that dreamy Judge Berman

Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:36 PM

CA easily.

#5 Segue Myles

Segue Myles

    Cupcake Warrior

  • Members
  • 32260 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom
  • Interests:Lacuna Coil
    Nightwish
    Within Temptation
    The Juliana Theory
    REM
    Thrice
    Idlewild
    Jimmy Eat World
    HIM
    Paradise Lost
    AFI
    U2
    Bruce Springsteen
    Sonata Arctica
    Pearl Jam
    Biffy Clyro
    Placebo

Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:38 PM

View PostLorraine, on 13 June 2015 - 06:35 PM, said:

I will go with CA too this time.  I like five songs from CA and only three from Counterparts.

CP has two top shelf Rush songs for me. Plenty of good ones. And on offensively bad stinker.

CA has six very good songs, a couple of good ones, and the rest appear on the tracklist but I couldn't tell you how the chorused go as they are completely forgettable.

But CA has no genuine stinkers.

#6 Bigbobby10

Bigbobby10

    Solar Federalist

  • Members *
  • 2877 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:41 PM

I'm going with CP a lot of really underrated pieces and one of my favorite albums

#7 Segue Myles

Segue Myles

    Cupcake Warrior

  • Members
  • 32260 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom
  • Interests:Lacuna Coil
    Nightwish
    Within Temptation
    The Juliana Theory
    REM
    Thrice
    Idlewild
    Jimmy Eat World
    HIM
    Paradise Lost
    AFI
    U2
    Bruce Springsteen
    Sonata Arctica
    Pearl Jam
    Biffy Clyro
    Placebo

Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:44 PM

View Postbigbobby10, on 13 June 2015 - 06:41 PM, said:

I'm going with CP a lot of really underrated pieces and one of my favorite albums

CP is underrated, but its faults cannot be denied.

But aside from CF and EG, Animate, Nobody's Hero, Alien Shore, Double Agent and Speed Of Love are genuinely nice songs!

Cut out Stick It Out and I would have picked Counterparts.

#8 YYZumbi

YYZumbi

    Vapor Trail

  • Members *
  • 18664 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sweden
  • Interests:Vinyl records and music in general.

Posted 13 June 2015 - 07:24 PM

Counterparts by far, I just love it! Counterparts also have my first Rush song that I loved. Stick It Out.

#9 Segue Myles

Segue Myles

    Cupcake Warrior

  • Members
  • 32260 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom
  • Interests:Lacuna Coil
    Nightwish
    Within Temptation
    The Juliana Theory
    REM
    Thrice
    Idlewild
    Jimmy Eat World
    HIM
    Paradise Lost
    AFI
    U2
    Bruce Springsteen
    Sonata Arctica
    Pearl Jam
    Biffy Clyro
    Placebo

Posted 13 June 2015 - 07:26 PM

View PostYYZumbi, on 13 June 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

Counterparts by far, I just love it! Counterparts also have my first Rush song that I loved. Stick It Out.

You love Stick It Out...

...

...

Respect buddy!

#10 YYZumbi

YYZumbi

    Vapor Trail

  • Members *
  • 18664 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sweden
  • Interests:Vinyl records and music in general.

Posted 13 June 2015 - 07:29 PM

View PostSegue Myles, on 13 June 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

View PostYYZumbi, on 13 June 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

Counterparts by far, I just love it! Counterparts also have my first Rush song that I loved. Stick It Out.

You love Stick It Out...

...

...

Respect buddy!

Yes I do... what´s wrong with that? It´s a great song!

#11 rocket ignites

rocket ignites

    The God Of Balance

  • Members
  • 5565 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Duluth, MN
  • Interests:Poker. Minnesota Vikings/Twins/T-Wolves. Being a glass half-full advocate for post 1982 Rush.

Posted 13 June 2015 - 07:38 PM

Counterparts is another inconsistent album.  Stick it out is somewhat obnoxious...don't hate it.  Nobody's Hero...blah...

Cut to the Chase and Animate are the cream of the crop followed by BTS&M.

This album ranked high for me in the 90's...not so much in 2015.

Give me CA.

#12 EagleMoon

EagleMoon

    Beauty and the Bass

  • Members
  • 21779 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Phoenix, Arizona
  • Interests:GUI and graphic design, writing, reading, hiking with my dog and photography.

Posted 13 June 2015 - 07:41 PM

Counterparts easily.

#13 TheAccountant

TheAccountant

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1273 posts

Posted 13 June 2015 - 07:52 PM

When Counterparts came out it was an album I did not care for.  Like Presto I would listen to it once in a while in the hope that I would start to like the like it and always come away disappointed.  And like Presto about 5 years ago I listened to it one day and it just clicked for me.

Unlike Presto it is an album that is not consistent.  It has some real ups and some downs.

I still don't go crazy for Leave that Thing Alone, Double Agent & Stick it Out.  In fact, I often skip some of them when listening to the album.

On the other hand, Cold Fire, Everyday Glory, The Speed of Love, Alien Shore, Nobody's Hero, Between the Sun and the Moon and Animate are all very strong songs.

CA has lower low's and its highs, while good and fine, are not as high as Counterparts.

If this was a tennis match (hey I have used horse racing and boxing as ways to compare albums, why not another sport?) the match would go into a 5th set but Counterparts would win an entertaining match.

#14 LedRush

LedRush

    The Counterparts Remain The Same

  • Members *
  • 24836 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Very small southeast Asian island
  • Interests:Family, guitar, classic video games, Ted Nugent, non-fiction books

Posted 13 June 2015 - 08:09 PM

Rush's worst album vs. CA?  Is this a joke?

#15 Bigbobby10

Bigbobby10

    Solar Federalist

  • Members *
  • 2877 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 June 2015 - 08:11 PM

View PostLedRush, on 13 June 2015 - 08:09 PM, said:

Rush's worst album vs. CA?  Is this a joke?

I think you are talking about the poll before this

#16 LedRush

LedRush

    The Counterparts Remain The Same

  • Members *
  • 24836 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Very small southeast Asian island
  • Interests:Family, guitar, classic video games, Ted Nugent, non-fiction books

Posted 13 June 2015 - 08:41 PM

View Postbigbobby10, on 13 June 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:

View PostLedRush, on 13 June 2015 - 08:09 PM, said:

Rush's worst album vs. CA?  Is this a joke?

I think you are talking about the poll before this

Nope.  CP is more painful than a kick to the nuts, and it scared off a lot of fans who came back to Rush for RTB.

#17 Tombstone Mountain

Tombstone Mountain

    The Grinder of all Yukonian Blades

  • Members *
  • 14371 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Goatnut, TN
  • Interests:Picking it up. Laying it down.
    Staying on the inside track.
    Sniffin' out the truth!

Posted 13 June 2015 - 08:58 PM

Great tour. Really good album. No weak tracks. Great musicianship.

Counterparts is underappreciated.
Top ten for me.





#18 GabesCavesOfIce

GabesCavesOfIce

    The God Of Balance

  • Members *
  • 6471 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Miamisburg, OH. Miamisburg, Oh. Miamisburg, Oh. Miamisburg, Oh
  • Interests:Miamisburg, Oh

    Outland Empire (located on the opposite US coast from Johnny and Dave).

Posted 13 June 2015 - 08:59 PM

Since Signals, the only Rush songs I recall getting a buzz on the radio here in NYC (hi Lorraine, btw NYers kick my butt!) were Big Money and Stick it Out. Force Ten a little bit.

CP was the first Rush record to début #2 on the billboard charts. I think CA might have matched it. Following HYF,P and RTB, which didn't sell well by their standards, that's no small accomplishment.

Great songs on CP- SIO captured the hard rock grunge sound of the early 90s, a great return to hard rock for Rush. CTTC and BSAM are awesome Rush tunes. DA is a close call, should have been a monster tune, still decent. It fell victim to the Rush Unusual Lyric Era.


.

#19 LakesideShark

LakesideShark

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1041 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Largo, Florida
  • Interests:Rush and Helloween and drawing meager cartoons.

Posted 13 June 2015 - 09:15 PM

Counterparts, because it's one of my all-time favorite Rush albums, if not my favorite.  Clockwork Angels is so close, too.  Counterparts was the album that got me into Rush, so...  This was a very tough decision for me.

#20 TexMike

TexMike

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1292 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Austin, TX
  • Interests:Music, photography, travel

Posted 13 June 2015 - 09:22 PM

View PostLedRush, on 13 June 2015 - 08:41 PM, said:

View Postbigbobby10, on 13 June 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:

View PostLedRush, on 13 June 2015 - 08:09 PM, said:

Rush's worst album vs. CA?  Is this a joke?

I think you are talking about the poll before this

Nope.  CP is more painful than a kick to the nuts, and it scared off a lot of fans who came back to Rush for RTB.

Uh, really?  Just who are these fans who "came back" for RTB?  And why the hell would they?  For Roll The Friggin' Bones???  We all get that you hate Counterparts, but RTB certainly wasn't a step back towards classic Rush either.  And that's putting it mildly.





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Segue Myles

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users