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CA Album Battle 5: Clockwork Angels vs. A Farewell To Kings

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Poll: CA Album Battle 5: Clockwork Angels vs. A Farewell To Kings (37 member(s) have cast votes)

Which is better?

  1. Clockwork Angels (14 votes [37.84%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.84%

  2. A Farewell To Kings (23 votes [62.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 62.16%

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#161 Tombstone Mountain

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 06:50 PM

View PostSegue Myles, on 05 June 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

View PostTombstone Mountain, on 05 June 2015 - 06:00 PM, said:

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View PostTombstone Mountain, on 05 June 2015 - 11:17 AM, said:

AFTK loses to CA. The amount of epic tracks on CA puts it on top.

The Anarchist
Carnies
Halo Effect
Seven Cities Of Gold
The Wreckers
The Garden
BU2B
Caravan
Wish Them Well

How are any of these more epic than A Farewell To Kings, Xanadu or Cygnus X-1?

As for CA's title track and Headlong Flight, how are they more epic than Xanadu alone?

As for songs like Carnies, The Wreckers, BU2B2 or The Garden, how can they top songs as classic and timeless as Cinderella Man, or Closer To The Heart?

And as a segue to the next track, come on, their is now way that BU2B2 tops Madrigal?

Seriously, there is absolutely NOTHING on CA that outdoes AFTK.

You go well overboard with CA, and when it comes to the greatness of AFTK, so do I!
Ok cupcake boy. Here's my response.

The Anarchist
Carnies
Halo Effect
Seven Cities Of Gold
The Wreckers
The Garden
BU2B--close to being bold
Caravan
Wish Them Well
Headlong Flight
Clockwork Angels

Bolded because they're all time classic tracks.

The rest are merely good to real good. Fantastic songwriting. As I said, AFTK is a great album, Clockwork Angels simply has an overabundance of greatness. It has several mini-epics.

Interesting how you don't address the greatness of Caravan. A sizzling track.
Carnies, Halo Effect, are less than equal to Cinderella Man?
You dismiss The Garden as being inferior to CTTH? Whatever man. These things are self-evident. If you can't see it for yourself, no one can really help you.

Maybe Dr. Cooper can...maybe. If you get on his good side

I have to say, when it comes to CA we have the same favourite songs!

Afraid that I prefer every song on AFTK to CA, and thats that. OK whatever dude. Jam away at your leisure

My surprise came, not from your favouring CA, but from the use of the word Epic. The entirety of the album is epic. And they're are mini epic songs on the album. We just had a poll confirm that

Was gobsmacked, because, just in my opinion, not one song comes close to the epic grandeur of AFTK. AFTK is a collection of songs. They don't tie in to one another. With Clockwork Angels they all relate to one another. Don't rant about the book. Keep it out of the conversation

And as for the shorter songs on AFTK, they carrt a weight, a vibe, that just isn't their on CA, or any other album to be exact. We can debate that...each album has it's own vibe. The vibe of CA carries a vibe that is unmistakable. I prefer it to AFTK. I don't want Rush albums to sound the same...that is a common wish here. Part of the allure of CA comes from the sound. Which many people complain to the point of sounding like their wussy ears can't handle even listening to great songs.

It's chum

I am truly stunned anyone can think otherwise, but bear in mind your taking moderate offense to my tone is exactly the sort of feeling others get with the way you post at times. I really don't care what THOSE (and yes they can be narrowed down to a few) people think. Really not offended by your tone. I know your a young person trying to make sense out of life. When you strike it out on your own, things will change for you in terms of perception of reality.

I don't know if you realise it, but the way I responded to you is exactly how I HATE to come across. But you do. All the time. I love your touchy feely times.

And I don't need any gang to come forward to back me up either. Ahhh but you have a few don't you? We all have people that we tend to follow and who do likewise

And I don't namedrop. This is getting like the Treeduck thread

In fact, I was more stunned by your reaction to my post considering, than I was to your opinion on AFTK. It's boring me

But...the whole purpose of these threads is for us who see CA differently to analyze where exactly CA fits in the overall view of the bands discography. We can disagree, which we all do (tastes are different after all), but I must say I am quite impressed by how strong the devotion towards CA is against these early albums.

Our clashing aside, this is a real eye opener for me. And believe me, there will come a time when only 1 album in two decades gets picked over CA.
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Posted 05 June 2015 - 06:55 PM

Guys, this is ridiculous.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 06:57 PM

View PostAncient Ways, on 05 June 2015 - 06:55 PM, said:

Guys, this is ridiculous.

I'm honestly sorry.

Embarrassed enough as it is.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 07:25 PM

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View PostBlue J, on 05 June 2015 - 05:55 PM, said:

View PostLorraine, on 05 June 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

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View PostLorraine, on 05 June 2015 - 04:57 PM, said:

I think Natural Science is one of the only Rush songs that I like better on the album than when they do it in concert.  :unsure:

What does this have to do with AFTK and CA?

Nothing.  :)

What about Digital Man, too?

I have a bootleg with a good version of that song on it.  I'll check and let you know later which one it is.

I was going to resurrect my Digital Man poll thread.  Just love that song!!  :wub:

Yes, I'd love to know which show it is.

I'm looking now.

Countdown to London speeds the song up slightly.  So that's out.

Music in the Abstract has poor sound quality.  But Geddy sings it beautifully.  Lots of trill in his voice.  :wub: :wub: :wub:   This might have been the one I was thinking about because Geddy does sing it better here than on the album.  He was in fine form that night!  

You may be right.  Unfortunately, these are the only two bootlegs I have with the song on it from that time period.

If you ever find a bootleg with a good version of it, let me know.  I thought I had, but it might have been in my dreams.  :wacko:

I think those may be the only two I have from that era, also. I will have to revisit Abstract, though, as I don't remember Ged's voice standing out on that one.

Edited by Blue J, 05 June 2015 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2015 - 09:22 PM

CA starts slowly and, IMO, the recording could be much better.  Then with Halo Effect it takes off and basically every song from there on is very good.  AFTK does not have the recording issues and, with the exception of Madrigal, every song is at least very good.

If it was a boxing match I would say that CA puts up a brave and valiant effort, giving every thing its got, but it goes down to defeat.  

Its good, but its just against better competition.

AFTK wins an entertaining match by a relatively comfortable margin and gets my vote.

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 12:02 AM

AFTK. And I LOVE CA. 2112 through MP is just perfect

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 12:31 AM

AFTK. And I LOVE CA. 2112 through MP is just perfect

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 06:24 AM

Getting even easier yet. A Farewell To Kings by a long shot...

Edited by Narps, 06 June 2015 - 10:03 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2015 - 09:49 AM

View PostNarps, on 06 June 2015 - 06:24 AM, said:

Getting even easy yet. A Farewell To Kings by a long shot...

Narpalicious, I would have been very surprised to see you vote any other way, considering your tattoo :D

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 10:07 PM

AFtK has Xanadu, but the album as a whole is merely average.  I like CA as a whole much more.

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:06 AM

Average. Wow...

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:10 AM

View PostNarps, on 07 June 2015 - 01:06 AM, said:

Average. Wow...

Yeah no kidding.

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:13 AM

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Average. Wow...

Yeah no kidding.
Just amazes me and I guess it always will. The very young typically which helps some...

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:18 AM

View PostNarps, on 07 June 2015 - 01:13 AM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 07 June 2015 - 01:10 AM, said:

View PostNarps, on 07 June 2015 - 01:06 AM, said:

Average. Wow...

Yeah no kidding.
Just amazes me and I guess it always will. The very young typically which helps some...

That went through my mind as well.

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:23 AM

View PostEagleMoon, on 07 June 2015 - 01:18 AM, said:

View PostNarps, on 07 June 2015 - 01:13 AM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 07 June 2015 - 01:10 AM, said:

View PostNarps, on 07 June 2015 - 01:06 AM, said:

Average. Wow...

Yeah no kidding.
Just amazes me and I guess it always will. The very young typically which helps some...

That went through my mind as well.
Gotta stop meeting like this... :)

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 09:38 AM

View PostEagleMoon, on 07 June 2015 - 01:10 AM, said:

View PostNarps, on 07 June 2015 - 01:06 AM, said:

Average. Wow...

Yeah no kidding.

No kidding is right. I don't get how even the most objective rock and roller could call the music on that album 'average'. But to each his/her own.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:28 AM

Kings, obviously.

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 06:02 PM

Clockwork Angels don´t even get close here...





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