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On a previous thread I was discussing momentum and shifting things in the first set. I know this is not going to happen but the flow seems off for me in the first set and uneven with the second. I feel the abundance of 3 CA songs off the bat is too much and should be limited to 1 a night and alternate. I put together a list if you kept a core of the show in tact I can see this making people happy with more spots alternating nightly with some more familiar songs and definitely adding more to the guessing game nightly. I appreciate the A.B.C. set's but the first set especially needs work. I saw 3 shows this tour and felt like everyone couldn't wait to get to the P/G part of the show to get loose or Roll The Bones and explode for set 2.

 

 

 

The World Is...The World Is...

  • Headlong Flight/Carnies/Anarchist alternate
  • Far Cry/Good News First alternate
  • Malignant Narcissism
  • Earthshine/Freeze/One Little Victory alternate
  • Test For Echo
  • Cold Fire/Double Agent/Animate alternate
  • Roll The Bones
  • Show Don't Tell/Chain Lightning alternate
  • Time Stand Still/Big Money alternate
  • Distant Early Warning/Between The Wheels/Kid Gloves alternate
  • Losing It/New World Man alternate
  • Subdivisions

 

No Country For Old Hen's

  • Tom Sawyer
  • Red Barchetta/Limelight/YYZ/The Camera Eye alternate
  • The Spirit of Radio
  • Natural Science/Entre Nous alternate
  • Jacob's Ladder
  • Prelude/La Villa Strangiato alternate
  • Cygnus X-1
  • Drum Solo
  • Cygnus Voyage
  • Closer To The Heart (with jam)
  • Xanadu
  • 2112

 

Mel's

  • Lakeside Park/Passage To Bangkok alternate
  • Anthem/Beneath, Between, and Behind alternate
  • What You're Doing/In The Mood/Before and After alternate
  • Working Man

Exit Stage Left...

 

 

 

 

 


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No matter how you slice it the first 3-5 songs just aren't gonna blow up my skirt because of the material involved. Just not my preference. Once you get back to the early 90's there is quality stuff to choose from live at least e.g. RTB. Beyond that the true awesomness begins. End of first set and all of second set. Going to tomorrow night and can't wait... :dweez:
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I wouldn't mind it, but you're right: it ain't never gonna happen.

 

Although I'm keen to the whole "reverse chronological" timeline for the setlist, I do agree that some of the songs don't seem to "fit" where they are. "The Wreckers" for example, simply is not a good number 2 song - in ANY setlist.

 

I thought it might sound better if they kept the same exact songs they're doing now, but not worry so much about the exact order. Make the first set 1982-2012, and the second set 1976-1981, and the encore 1974-1975,but feel free to stick those songs wherever in the mix. Of course, that would mess up the whole "stage props" effect.

 

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

 

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

 

Why exactly can't it work?

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

 

Why exactly can't it work?

They go backwards in time with the music and the stage setup. Having seen the show it would be weird to suddenly move forward in time and it would be a bit silly watching them play yyz with an amp propped up on a chair under a disco ball.

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

 

Why exactly can't it work?

They go backwards in time with the music and the stage setup. Having seen the show it would be weird to suddenly move forward in time and it would be a bit silly watching them play yyz with an amp propped up on a chair under a disco ball.

 

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As anyone who is obsessed with set lists will tell you - encores are a law onto themselves.

 

I haven't seen the production, so my set is purely based on the current set lists. but I'm sure there are a number of ways you could get around that.

 

There are a lot of rules in the universe - but the rule of following the exact order and formula of a rush tour is not one of them.

 

If you use your imagination anything is possible.

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The fact that some of you put so much time and effort into this proves to me that some of you need hobbies!

I wish there was a way to like this comment twice :)

 

 

Let he who is without Internet forum membership cast the first stone ;)

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No matter how you slice it the first 3-5 songs just aren't gonna blow up my skirt because of the material involved. Just not my preference. Once you get back to the early 90's there is quality stuff to choose from live at least e.g. RTB. Beyond that the true awesomness begins. End of first set and all of second set. Going to tomorrow night and can't wait... :dweez:

 

Narp the second set will blow your mind. Seeing it and hearing it live is something to behold.

 

Celebrate the moment brother.

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

 

Why exactly can't it work?

They go backwards in time with the music and the stage setup. Having seen the show it would be weird to suddenly move forward in time and it would be a bit silly watching them play yyz with an amp propped up on a chair under a disco ball.

 

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As anyone who is obsessed with set lists will tell you - encores are a law onto themselves.

 

I haven't seen the production, so my set is purely based on the current set lists. but I'm sure there are a number of ways you could get around that.

 

There are a lot of rules in the universe - but the rule of following the exact order and formula of a rush tour is not one of them.

 

If you use your imagination anything is possible.

It's their concept, not mine and not yours. I'm just commenting on the reality we live in.

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

 

Why exactly can't it work?

They go backwards in time with the music and the stage setup. Having seen the show it would be weird to suddenly move forward in time and it would be a bit silly watching them play yyz with an amp propped up on a chair under a disco ball.

 

1

As anyone who is obsessed with set lists will tell you - encores are a law onto themselves.

 

I haven't seen the production, so my set is purely based on the current set lists. but I'm sure there are a number of ways you could get around that.

 

There are a lot of rules in the universe - but the rule of following the exact order and formula of a rush tour is not one of them.

 

If you use your imagination anything is possible.

 

 

 

 

 

Kev, you have to check out the show continuously. It is strictly reverse chronology. Strictly, for a reason, and has an awesome effect.

 

What they are doing, songs, lights, props, and sometimes instruments, everything moves in a specific manner, and the songs are connected and intertwined with each other.

 

There are plenty of full show vids on you tube, I suggest you watch a full show from up close before disagreeing.

 

Can anyone recall a band doing a show in this manner? I can't, and was blown away by it.

 

Think of it this way-

 

The first set is like a recent show, say either TM or CA tour.

 

The second set can easily be a replication of the MP tour.

 

The encore is a replica of them as an opening act or bar band.

 

This is how they chose to honor their career as a touring band.

 

It works 100%. I can't recall thinking that on any other tour, any other band. Very few things in life achieve goals with such perfection in this manner.

 

It honors the fact that Rush is an "era" band. Distinct and separate eras, modern hard rock, synth, pop hard rock, prog, hard rock blues with an ounce of prog. They have distinct styles over the years. There are many reasons that the way they produced R40 is probably the best concept tour of all time that honors an entire career.

 

 

 

 

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On a previous thread I was discussing momentum and shifting things in the first set. I know this is not going to happen but the flow seems off for me in the first set and uneven with the second. I feel the abundance of 3 CA songs off the bat is too much and should be limited to 1 a night and alternate. I put together a list if you kept a core of the show in tact I can see this making people happy with more spots alternating nightly with some more familiar songs and definitely adding more to the guessing game nightly. I appreciate the A.B.C. set's but the first set especially needs work. I saw 3 shows this tour and felt like everyone couldn't wait to get to the P/G part of the show to get loose or Roll The Bones and explode for set 2.

 

 

 

The World Is...The World Is...

  • Headlong Flight/Carnies/Anarchist alternate
  • Far Cry/Good News First alternate
  • Malignant Narcissism
  • Earthshine/Freeze/One Little Victory alternate
  • Test For Echo
  • Cold Fire/Double Agent/Animate alternate
  • Roll The Bones
  • Show Don't Tell/Chain Lightning alternate
  • Time Stand Still/Big Money alternate
  • Distant Early Warning/Between The Wheels/Kid Gloves alternate
  • Losing It/New World Man alternate
  • Subdivisions

No Country For Old Hen's

  • Tom Sawyer
  • Red Barchetta/Limelight/YYZ/The Camera Eye alternate
  • The Spirit of Radio
  • Natural Science/Entre Nous alternate
  • Jacob's Ladder
  • Prelude/La Villa Strangiato alternate
  • Cygnus X-1
  • Drum Solo
  • Cygnus Voyage
  • Closer To The Heart (with jam)
  • Xanadu
  • 2112

Mel's

  • Lakeside Park/Passage To Bangkok alternate
  • Anthem/Beneath, Between, and Behind alternate
  • What You're Doing/In The Mood/Before and After alternate
  • Working Man

Exit Stage Left...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL. I'd mind it. PASS on TFE. PASS on VT tracks. PASS on any Power Windows.

 

The current setlists are pretty solid. If I had any gripes at all, I'd say they were too light on Signals presence.

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

 

Why exactly can't it work?

They go backwards in time with the music and the stage setup. Having seen the show it would be weird to suddenly move forward in time and it would be a bit silly watching them play yyz with an amp propped up on a chair under a disco ball.

 

1

As anyone who is obsessed with set lists will tell you - encores are a law onto themselves.

 

I haven't seen the production, so my set is purely based on the current set lists. but I'm sure there are a number of ways you could get around that.

 

There are a lot of rules in the universe - but the rule of following the exact order and formula of a rush tour is not one of them.

 

If you use your imagination anything is possible.

 

 

 

 

 

Kev, you have to check out the show continuously. It is strictly reverse chronology. Strictly, for a reason, and has an awesome effect.

 

What they are doing, songs, lights, props, and sometimes instruments, everything moves in a specific manner, and the songs are connected and intertwined with each other.

 

There are plenty of full show vids on you tube, I suggest you watch a full show from up close before disagreeing.

 

Can anyone recall a band doing a show in this manner? I can't, and was blown away by it.

 

Think of it this way-

 

The first set is like a recent show, say either TM or CA tour.

 

The second set can easily be a replication of the MP tour.

 

The encore is a replica of them as an opening act or bar band.

 

This is how they chose to honor their career as a touring band.

 

It works 100%. I can't recall thinking that on any other tour, any other band. Very few things in life achieve goals with such perfection in this manner.

 

It honors the fact that Rush is an "era" band. Distinct and separate eras, modern hard rock, synth, pop hard rock, prog, hard rock blues with an ounce of prog. They have distinct styles over the years. There are many reasons that the way they produced R40 is probably the best concept tour of all time that honors an entire career.

 

 

 

 

.

Excellent post. What's so hard about this concept??

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My ONLY complaint about this set list is that it doesn't include at least one song from EVERY album! (Even the albums I'm not a big fan of). Other than that, we're good.....

Ya know, I would have loved it as well but, I think years ago they could gave done that, but age and physical endurance has limited them. Thus is even a short tour by Rush standards, for a reason. They are playing what they are playing, we should be happy about it, stop whining about it and stop masturbating over dream setlists that aren't going to happen. This is their final.gift to us, don't be ingrates, folks.

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

 

Why exactly can't it work?

They go backwards in time with the music and the stage setup. Having seen the show it would be weird to suddenly move forward in time and it would be a bit silly watching them play yyz with an amp propped up on a chair under a disco ball.

 

1

As anyone who is obsessed with set lists will tell you - encores are a law onto themselves.

 

I haven't seen the production, so my set is purely based on the current set lists. but I'm sure there are a number of ways you could get around that.

 

There are a lot of rules in the universe - but the rule of following the exact order and formula of a rush tour is not one of them.

 

If you use your imagination anything is possible.

 

I've stuck to that concept. I just don't like the really early stuff - so I've placed it with a traditional encore section.

 

 

 

Kev, you have to check out the show continuously. It is strictly reverse chronology. Strictly, for a reason, and has an awesome effect.

 

What they are doing, songs, lights, props, and sometimes instruments, everything moves in a specific manner, and the songs are connected and intertwined with each other.

 

There are plenty of full show vids on you tube, I suggest you watch a full show from up close before disagreeing.

 

Can anyone recall a band doing a show in this manner? I can't, and was blown away by it.

 

Think of it this way-

 

The first set is like a recent show, say either TM or CA tour.

 

The second set can easily be a replication of the MP tour.

 

The encore is a replica of them as an opening act or bar band.

 

This is how they chose to honor their career as a touring band.

 

It works 100%. I can't recall thinking that on any other tour, any other band. Very few things in life achieve goals with such perfection in this manner.

 

It honors the fact that Rush is an "era" band. Distinct and separate eras, modern hard rock, synth, pop hard rock, prog, hard rock blues with an ounce of prog. They have distinct styles over the years. There are many reasons that the way they produced R40 is probably the best concept tour of all time that honors an entire career.

 

 

 

 

.

Excellent post. What's so hard about this concept??

 

It's an "alternative" setlist.

I don't like the rally early stuff, so I've replaced it with a traditional hits encore.

Lots of bands do it.

 

You people are like dustin Hoffman in rainman.

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Here's my alternative r40 set

 

Carnies

Clockwork Angels

Working them Angels

Animate

Leave that Thing Alone (with drum solo)

Roll the Bones

Bravado

Show don't Tell

Open Secrets

Prime Mover (or) Turn the Page

The Percussor

Emotion Detector

---

Distant Early Warning (or) Red Sector A*

Countdown

Analog Kid (or) Witch Hunt

Red Barchetta

Natural Science (or) The Camera Eye

Jacob's Ladder

Hemispheres Prelude

LA Villa Strangiato

Xanadu

Closer to the Heart

2112

 

Encore 1

----------

Lakeside Park

Anthem

 

Encore 2

----------

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

Spirit of Radio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*yes, with acoustic kit

You do understand the concept, right? This can't work with their tour concept. I thought the CA songs were well received and they looked like they had a great time playing them which wasn't the case for every song.

 

Why exactly can't it work?

They go backwards in time with the music and the stage setup. Having seen the show it would be weird to suddenly move forward in time and it would be a bit silly watching them play yyz with an amp propped up on a chair under a disco ball.

 

1

As anyone who is obsessed with set lists will tell you - encores are a law onto themselves.

 

I haven't seen the production, so my set is purely based on the current set lists. but I'm sure there are a number of ways you could get around that.

 

There are a lot of rules in the universe - but the rule of following the exact order and formula of a rush tour is not one of them.

 

If you use your imagination anything is possible.

 

I've stuck to that concept. I just don't like the really early stuff - so I've placed it with a traditional encore section.

 

 

 

Kev, you have to check out the show continuously. It is strictly reverse chronology. Strictly, for a reason, and has an awesome effect.

 

What they are doing, songs, lights, props, and sometimes instruments, everything moves in a specific manner, and the songs are connected and intertwined with each other.

 

There are plenty of full show vids on you tube, I suggest you watch a full show from up close before disagreeing.

 

Can anyone recall a band doing a show in this manner? I can't, and was blown away by it.

 

Think of it this way-

 

The first set is like a recent show, say either TM or CA tour.

 

The second set can easily be a replication of the MP tour.

 

The encore is a replica of them as an opening act or bar band.

 

This is how they chose to honor their career as a touring band.

 

It works 100%. I can't recall thinking that on any other tour, any other band. Very few things in life achieve goals with such perfection in this manner.

 

It honors the fact that Rush is an "era" band. Distinct and separate eras, modern hard rock, synth, pop hard rock, prog, hard rock blues with an ounce of prog. They have distinct styles over the years. There are many reasons that the way they produced R40 is probably the best concept tour of all time that honors an entire career.

 

 

 

 

.

Excellent post. What's so hard about this concept??

 

It's an "alternative" setlist.

I don't like the rally early stuff, so I've replaced it with a traditional hits encore.

Lots of bands do it.

 

You people are like dustin Hoffman in rainman.

 

they play 3 or 4 hits depending on the a b or c list. Most tours Rush plays to their hits crowd by featuring hits in the encore.

 

This tour is different, they are playing to all eras, for all fans. It's a creative and unique perspective and a salute to a tremendous touring career.

 

Not sure why some fans need to put down others. Autism? Not everyone is born perfect like a hit song. Some are born better, like a progressive tune.

 

 

 

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