Ancient Ways Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Plus ça change, plus c'est le même chosehttp://www.therushforum.com/index.php?/topic/10880-the-story-behind-2112/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiquark Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 One more thing! The bible chapter is "Job", which makes perfect sense if you consider that the "working men" of Rush consider their music to be a job. ... IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW... :rush: :Alex: :Neil: :geddy: :rush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Neil doesn't mention the bible in this 1976 article...Nor would I expect him to, given that I think the odds that the title of the album having anything to do with the Bible is next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfriar Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 It's a date. The year 2112.Like May 13th, 2112 for example. That is what I always thought. Can someone convert that into Trek stardate?No problem Buck :)2+1= :rush:-1-2= :rush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabesCavesOfIce Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 It's a date. The year 2112.Like May 13th, 2112 for example. That is what I always thought. Can someone convert that into Trek stardate? My daughters birthday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 It's a date. The year 2112.Like May 13th, 2112 for example. That is what I always thought. Can someone convert that into Trek stardate? My daughters birthday! What's the future like? Does time travel really make you sick? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I'm convinced that they drove by my house that I lived in as a kid, which is my username, and thought 'heyyyyyy that's a cool number to use'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2U1S1H2 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I thought it was just Neil's birthday! In military time 9:12 in the evening is 21:12 his birthday is the 12 of September 9 or 9/12 2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I thought it was just Neil's birthday! In military time 9:12 in the evening is 21:12 his birthday is the 12 of September 9 or 9/12 2112Interesting theory but definative answer yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I figured that they saw my license plate and decided that would be a cool name for a song/album??? Or they saw my password in TRF and thought the same!Or my email password and a bunch of others... :)Wait....you are using my password? That is going to mess something up for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I thought it was just Neil's birthday! In military time 9:12 in the evening is 21:12 his birthday is the 12 of September 9 or 9/12 2112 Say where did you get that avatar image. I think I first posted that image on TRF some time ago. Anyway as RUSH fans we should never use 2112 in passwords maybe a veriation of..... even though at one time I did so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudbuytjane Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I thought it was just Neil's birthday! In military time 9:12 in the evening is 21:12 his birthday is the 12 of September 9 or 9/12 2112 Say where did you get that avatar image. I think I first posted that image on TRF some time ago. Anyway as RUSH fans we should never use 2112 in passwords maybe a veriation of..... even though at one time I did so. Haha, me too. One of my early PINs was 2112. No more. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I thought it was just Neil's birthday! In military time 9:12 in the evening is 21:12 his birthday is the 12 of September 9 or 9/12 2112Interesting theory but definative answer yet? They've said that it was a play on the 1812 overture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Has Rush ever explained where the 2112 number came from? In my biblical readings, I noticed that there's a bible verse that seems relevant to both the number (21:12) and the fact that Rush is a band: Job 21:1212 They sing to the music of timbrel and lyre; they make merry to the sound of the pipe. Also in 2112 Geddy sings "the meek shall inherit the earth" which is also from the bible. That being said, I didn't think Neil was very religious... Holy f**k. It's a play on 1812 Overture and a date in the future... I thought Rush fans were supposed to be intelligent. Too intelligent! Over thinkers. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Even if it is just a coincidence, it's a kind of anthropoligical discovery (I'm not joking)Yeah, it's cool. Neil likes literary allusion, so it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Plus ça change, plus c'est le même chosehttp://www.therushfo...ry-behind-2112/ Indeed: http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?/topic/57640-the-meaning-of-the-title-2112/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiquark Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Plus ça change, plus c'est le même chosehttp://www.therushfo...ry-behind-2112/ Indeed: http://www.therushfo...the-title-2112/ Another interesting coincidence from that thread: ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION-7ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION-14ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION-21 WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL-4WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL-8WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL-12 Ending up with 21 words from the first phrase and 12 from the second. Hence the title, 2112. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 2+1-1-2 = 0. These were the chances of Rush carrying on as a band if the album flopped. Hence the album and song name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I always liked that it was a palindrome or whatever you call it, same forwards and backwards!Just like boob! :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I always liked that it was a palindrome or whatever you call it, same forwards and backwards! Two to one, reflection on the water. Notice the water and the reflection on the album cover. :) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Rush_2112.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 In order to make an intelligent or worthwhile critical assessment of any form of literature or art, a person should be familiar with what they are talking about - it does not necessarily mean that you follow or adhere to what is being discussed .. Knowledge is power, and there is no reason to fear keeping an open mind - this applies to everyone, be they hard core followers of religion or not ... That said, there are undeniable references to The Bible in some of Neil's lyrics - again, I am NOT implying Neil FOLLOWS these beliefs, however, any good thinker is like a sponge, and soaks up inspiration and ideas no matter where they come from .. To be opposed to something - be it Ayn Rand's philosophy or excerpts from The Bible - you should first be familiar with it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Has Rush ever explained where the 2112 number came from? In my biblical readings, I noticed that there's a bible verse that seems relevant to both the number (21:12) and the fact that Rush is a band: Job 21:1212 They sing to the music of timbrel and lyre; they make merry to the sound of the pipe. Also in 2112 Geddy sings "the meek shall inherit the earth" which is also from the bible. That being said, I didn't think Neil was very religious... Holy f**k. It's a play on 1812 Overture and a date in the future... I thought Rush fans were supposed to be intelligent. You've spent time in SOCN - you *know* that isn't true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Has Rush ever explained where the 2112 number came from? In my biblical readings, I noticed that there's a bible verse that seems relevant to both the number (21:12) and the fact that Rush is a band: Job 21:1212 They sing to the music of timbrel and lyre; they make merry to the sound of the pipe. Also in 2112 Geddy sings "the meek shall inherit the earth" which is also from the bible. That being said, I didn't think Neil was very religious... There is no religious reference to this number. Perhaps it's Satanic right? 2+1+1+2 = 6. 666 I'm KIDDING! Guys it's simple. It's a reference to the War Of 1812. Hence the ending of 2112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleAgent33 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Let's look at in numerology terms. Break 2112 into seperate numbers. 21 and 12. 21+12=33.There is some signifigance to the number 33. To name a couple of things. 33 is publicly said to be the highest degree of Freemasonry. The 33rd degree is when you obtain occult knowledge and wisdome, and find out who pulls the strings in world affairs.33 is also the number of couples needed to form stable genetics for a race. So 33 also symbolizes genetics, and stability in a spiecies. You trekkies from the Cygnus x-1 fourm might like that one :). Remember the TNG episode up the long ladder?(I think that's the right episode). Edited May 18, 2015 by DoubleAgent33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbutre Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 And when the earth has orbited the sun 2112 times, Tchaikovski will admit that he stole 'Ouverture 1812' from Rush. We have assumed control (3x). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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