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Which song do you think is better?

  1. 2112 (22 votes [40.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 40.74%

  2. Cygnus X-1 Book II - Hemispheres (32 votes [59.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 59.26%

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:37 PM

Hemispheres.
Period.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 07:32 AM

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2112

Better, more varied, and more interesting music, better story-telling, and a better match between music and story.  I love Hemispheres, but this isn't a close call for me.

Excellent post.  Except I would go slightly further and say that I like Hemispheres, not love it.  Its a fine, ok, middle of the pack song.  Nothing wrong with it but nothing special.

2112, for all  the reasons listed, is far better.  Got my vote - no second thoughts needed.

Agreed! Hemispheres is just...average in the best way possible. I am glad they quit the epics after this, as the result was expansive shorter "epics" like Red Barchetta, Natural Science and The Camera Eye. They have a greater impact on the senses than any five minute segment of Hemispheres.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 09:28 AM

View PostSegue Myles, on 07 March 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

View PostTheAccountant, on 06 March 2015 - 06:55 PM, said:

View PostLedRush, on 06 March 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

2112

Better, more varied, and more interesting music, better story-telling, and a better match between music and story.  I love Hemispheres, but this isn't a close call for me.

Excellent post.  Except I would go slightly further and say that I like Hemispheres, not love it.  Its a fine, ok, middle of the pack song.  Nothing wrong with it but nothing special.

2112, for all  the reasons listed, is far better.  Got my vote - no second thoughts needed.

Agreed! Hemispheres is just...average in the best way possible. I am glad they quit the epics after this, as the result was expansive shorter "epics" like Red Barchetta, Natural Science and The Camera Eye. They have a greater impact on the senses than any five minute segment of Hemispheres.

I like the way you said " average in the best way possible".  Its a good average Rush song.  If you compare it to the the broader universe of Rock music its better than most stuff (hence, IMO, the "best way possible" is spot on).  But when compared to Rush's music its just a decent average.

I also agree with you on them quitting the epics.  Their had been a time and place for them but it was time to move on, change and grow.  The epics I really like (2112, By-Tor, Xanadu) are just that - epic.  I love them.  But rather than continuing to try them and become stuck in what they were doing they changed, created other types of songs and their art grew as a result.  In some ways it makes me appreciate the epics even more since I have the, in some ways equally epic, post epic period (PW, MP, synth era and post synth era) to compare the epics to.  Yes, I used "epic" a lot in that last sentence but it was done so on purpose.  It was designed to be an epic sentence (chuckle).

As for Red Barchetta, The Camera Eye and Natural Science I am glad you mentioned them.  Natural Science is, to my ears, still part of the epic era but almost a farewell to it.  Like it more than Hemispheres but I like the live versions way more than the studio.  Red Barchetta is, for me, a top 10 - 15 Rush song.  Way better than Hemispheres.   The Camera Eye is a song I actually find hard to place.   Its not an "epic" but its not what they were turning into.  Like Natural Science its sort of a transition song.  Its actually like Hemispheres for me.  Good, solid song.  But nothing great.  But I agree that it is somewhat better than Hemispheres.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 10:09 AM

While I think the total body of work (Album) of Hemispheres is way better.

Just comparing side 1 - 2112 is the better of the 2, albeit they are both incredible.
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Posted 07 March 2015 - 12:10 PM

If Hemispheres is "just average," I won't say what I think of the post-Signals  Rush albums.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 12:15 PM

I prefer Hemispheres because I think it holds together as one song instead of a bunch of different songs strung together. I can listen to Hemispheres, start to finish, whereas with 2112 I prefer some sections over others (I cringe at the thought of "Discovery").

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 12:38 PM

CNN has projected Hemispheres in a landslide.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 12:45 PM

2112 sounds very dated to me when I listen to it.

Hemispheres is timeless.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 12:49 PM

I should say 2112 since it was my gateway drug, but it's only beaten by 3 songs, and Hemispheres is one of them.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:13 PM

Playing 2112 rigt now.

Just leagues ahead of every other epic the band ever wrote.

I think this is the best song the band ever wrote. No competition. Of its time, and gloriously so! Nothing about Hemispheres comes close to topping this.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:15 PM

2112: 10.0

Hemispheres: 2.5

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:18 PM

View PostTheAccountant, on 07 March 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

View PostSegue Myles, on 07 March 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

View PostTheAccountant, on 06 March 2015 - 06:55 PM, said:

View PostLedRush, on 06 March 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

2112

Better, more varied, and more interesting music, better story-telling, and a better match between music and story.  I love Hemispheres, but this isn't a close call for me.

Excellent post.  Except I would go slightly further and say that I like Hemispheres, not love it.  Its a fine, ok, middle of the pack song.  Nothing wrong with it but nothing special.

2112, for all  the reasons listed, is far better.  Got my vote - no second thoughts needed.

Agreed! Hemispheres is just...average in the best way possible. I am glad they quit the epics after this, as the result was expansive shorter "epics" like Red Barchetta, Natural Science and The Camera Eye. They have a greater impact on the senses than any five minute segment of Hemispheres.

I like the way you said " average in the best way possible".  Its a good average Rush song.  If you compare it to the the broader universe of Rock music its better than most stuff (hence, IMO, the "best way possible" is spot on).  But when compared to Rush's music its just a decent average.

I also agree with you on them quitting the epics.  Their had been a time and place for them but it was time to move on, change and grow.  The epics I really like (2112, By-Tor, Xanadu) are just that - epic.  I love them.  But rather than continuing to try them and become stuck in what they were doing they changed, created other types of songs and their art grew as a result.  In some ways it makes me appreciate the epics even more since I have the, in some ways equally epic, post epic period (PW, MP, synth era and post synth era) to compare the epics to.  Yes, I used "epic" a lot in that last sentence but it was done so on purpose.  It was designed to be an epic sentence (chuckle).

As for Red Barchetta, The Camera Eye and Natural Science I am glad you mentioned them.  Natural Science is, to my ears, still part of the epic era but almost a farewell to it.  Like it more than Hemispheres but I like the live versions way more than the studio.  Red Barchetta is, for me, a top 10 - 15 Rush song.  Way better than Hemispheres.   The Camera Eye is a song I actually find hard to place.   Its not an "epic" but its not what they were turning into.  Like Natural Science its sort of a transition song.  Its actually like Hemispheres for me.  Good, solid song.  But nothing great.  But I agree that it is somewhat better than Hemispheres.

The Camera Eye, Red Barchetta, Natural Science, Xanadu, 2112, Fountain, Cygnus X-1...all far greater than  side one of Hemispheres.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:18 PM

2112 is their masterwork, their best song of all time. Everything about the song is absolute Rush perfection. Hemispheres, while awesome is it's own right, doesn't stand a ghost of a chance.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:20 PM

View PostDisk98, on 07 March 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

2112: 10.0

Hemispheres: 2.5

2112- 10/10

Hemispheres- 6/10

Of course, I am referring only to the songs. Side B of Hems is far greater than the rather nice second side of 2112.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:20 PM

The fact anyone would call Hemisphere average is beyond me..........sorry Mr. Segue.  I know i did but i've repented.

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The fact anyone would call Hemisphere average is beyond me..........sorry Mr. Segue.  I know i did but i've repented.

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You keep Hems, I keep VT. Much happier with that album.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:22 PM

And

2112-8/10

Hemispheres-Gift of those Canadian Gods.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:24 PM

View PostSegue Myles, on 07 March 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 07 March 2015 - 02:20 PM, said:

The fact anyone would call Hemisphere average is beyond me..........sorry Mr. Segue.  I know i did but i've repented.

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You keep Hems, I keep VT. Much happier with that album.
That's a good deal.  Bye!

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:24 PM

I wouldn't call Hemispheres average though. It is pretty sick, and their functioning tighter as a group here than they ever had before, but 2112 is still the better song.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:27 PM

Hemispheres - 26

2112 - 15




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