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#21 Flavia2112

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Posted 25 December 2020 - 02:59 AM

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I`d sacrifice all of AFTK if it ensured I could keep Permanent Waves and Hemispheres.
I might do that...but Xanadu is one of my all-time favorites...and I wouldn't really want Cygnus X-1 Book Two without Book One... Maybe I'd sacrifice...what's something I don't like as much...Hold Your Fire for Permanent Waves and Hemispheres.
Yes, don`t let my indifference to AFTK drag you down.  I can`t exactly pin it down, but I just don`t think it`s as good as the other pre-1985 stone-cold classics.
I wonder why. For me everything in the 70s and early 80s (except maybe the first album) is fully amazing (notwithstanding the few Ayn Rand-ian sentiments that bother me), then as you get into the mid-80s, there'll be the occasional not-so-good song (except on Presto), more so in the 90s...sorry for talking your ear off typing your eyes off, but I'm curious. Not liking (or being indifferent to) AFTK specifically is very different than, say, not liking the first album or the synth era.
You`d do well to talk my ears off type my eyes out, as I`m happy to converse at great length about anything! I completely agree with you, my AFTK problem makes no sense.  Chronology and/or synths are far more often the reasons for favouring one record or era over another, or indeed Neil addressing wider issues than the self could be another. Many think it is their favourite.  I can still remember the sense of disappointment I felt when I heard it the first time, as like you, I`m newer to the band than most TRF stalwarts. Maybe it depends on your love of Coleridge? I know that I had always disliked Kubla Khan, so approached Xanadu in a slightly jaundiced way, and much prefer Neil`s own thoughts. I`m not saying they should have interpreted Sylvia Plath, but I like literature grounded in my world or at least about things I can relate to.  I am confused by how the majesty of Hemispheres and PW sit after AFTK, which for me lacks the personal, observational and insightful lyrics of Circumstances, TSOR, Natural Science.  AFTK seems to be about other people and other things, detached, and lacking in great riffs too to my ears, so I feel that I`m removed too, rather than engaged.  I`m trying to explain what is fundamentally an album that leaves me strangely cold.  I don`t think I`ve done it very well!
I see your point about it being detached. Xanadu and Cinderella Man are based on other things, I don't know what Madrigal's about... I should research this. I actually knew nothing about Coleridge until I heard Xanadu, and then when I read Kubla Khan I was too busy being like "oh, that's what they were talking about!" to actually think about whether I liked the poem. Errrr...stay on topic, Flavia. Ummmm...I don't have time to think about what I want to type...
I guess this really proves that there isn't just the fan who only cares about Tom Sawyer, the fan who hates the synths, and the fan who thinks Rush can do no wrong.
I`m not entirely alone, as there are at least two other TRFers who share my position on AFTK. But I`m almost certainly on my own in truly not understanding the love for Xanadu.  Madrigal and Cinderella Man have a B-side quality about them, again, in context of the records that followed, and I think the title track is really missing some "ooompphh".  The joy of Rush is at its mostest when the best elements of the three majestic powers are apparent - if I may be so bold, I don`t think that happens here.
"Three majestic powers" hahaha
Edit: 100TH POST! SENSE O'CLOCK NEWS HERE I COME!

Edited by Flavia2112, 25 December 2020 - 03:00 AM.


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Posted 25 December 2020 - 10:04 AM

I would sacrifice most Rush tunes for a hardcore live version of Vital Signs.  Rocking out to that in West Palm Beach during the Time Machine Tour was the highlight of my live Rush experiences.

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Posted 28 December 2020 - 04:03 AM

View Postpjbear05, on 25 December 2020 - 10:04 AM, said:

I would sacrifice most Rush tunes for a hardcore live version of Vital Signs.  Rocking out to that in West Palm Beach during the Time Machine Tour was the highlight of my live Rush experiences.
That would be cool.
What's cooler, though, is "live Rush experiences," plural. :(




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