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#241 Union 5-3992

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 02:21 PM

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Based on some interviews I don't see this as an opener for Season 4
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 02:33 PM

View PostKenJennings, on 11 April 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

I believe that Chuck's electromagnetic sensitivity is inexorably connected to his betrayal of Jimmy.

We can deduce that his problem began shortly after Jimmy passed the bar. When Chuck first sends Hamlin down to the copy room to break the bad news to Jimmy. It's an interesting notion to think that it all began with Chuck being unable to stand going into the room full of copiers.

He lied to Jimmy to inhibit his career. And Chuck's subconscious, being devoted to honesty and actually loving his brother on some level, has to punish him for it.

We see Chuck's condition beginning to improve toward the end of season one, when he and Jimmy are working well together on the Sandpiper case; at one point as they are working together, both lawyers with a relaxed mutual respect, Chuck even absentmindedly walks outside and uses Jimmy's key fob and retrieves some documents with no ill effects.

When the Sandpiper case becomes too daunting, and HHM is forced to get involved, Chuck acts dishonestly again to prevent Jimmy's hiring at the firm. He then begins a relapse into his EM disorder.

In season two, we see Chuck opposing Jimmy more overtly, publicly questioning him in meetings, going out of his way to trip him up... and as he does this, the condition takes its toll. We see Chuck devolve into a quivering mass of foil at night as the symptoms overcome him, attributed mostly to "going at it too hard" in the office.

His sensitivity comes to a head after investigating Jimmy's forgery, he ironically collapses from the condition in a copy room- the very sort of place that he wouldn't go at the start of the whole situation.

Now he's clandestinely recorded Jimmy, and is very dishonestly scheming to plot his revenge. We see him hardly able to touch the tape recorder (something with a relatively small electrical footprint sets him off so badly because it a direct symbol of his betrayal), he even goes so far to keep it in an insulated faraday drawer, avoiding the pain it brings him.

An interesting throwaway line from Ernesto at the end of the episode "I miss the copy room." ... the one place Chuck won't go.

As he continues his scheming descent into corruption, obsessing over the white whale his brother represents; I think we're going to see Chuck's condition rapidly devolve. He will only heal when he accepts Jimmy, and that doesn't look likely.
I kept thinking back to what you wrote here throughout the rest of the season and it really holds up given the finale. That final brutal thrust of the knife led to his undoing

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 03:03 PM

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 21 June 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

View Postthesweetscience, on 21 June 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 21 June 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Based on some interviews I don't see this as an opener for Season 4
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It makes sense.  It would be the final push in Jimmy's transition to Saul.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 03:04 PM

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 21 June 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

View PostKenJennings, on 11 April 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

I believe that Chuck's electromagnetic sensitivity is inexorably connected to his betrayal of Jimmy.

We can deduce that his problem began shortly after Jimmy passed the bar. When Chuck first sends Hamlin down to the copy room to break the bad news to Jimmy. It's an interesting notion to think that it all began with Chuck being unable to stand going into the room full of copiers.

He lied to Jimmy to inhibit his career. And Chuck's subconscious, being devoted to honesty and actually loving his brother on some level, has to punish him for it.

We see Chuck's condition beginning to improve toward the end of season one, when he and Jimmy are working well together on the Sandpiper case; at one point as they are working together, both lawyers with a relaxed mutual respect, Chuck even absentmindedly walks outside and uses Jimmy's key fob and retrieves some documents with no ill effects.

When the Sandpiper case becomes too daunting, and HHM is forced to get involved, Chuck acts dishonestly again to prevent Jimmy's hiring at the firm. He then begins a relapse into his EM disorder.

In season two, we see Chuck opposing Jimmy more overtly, publicly questioning him in meetings, going out of his way to trip him up... and as he does this, the condition takes its toll. We see Chuck devolve into a quivering mass of foil at night as the symptoms overcome him, attributed mostly to "going at it too hard" in the office.

His sensitivity comes to a head after investigating Jimmy's forgery, he ironically collapses from the condition in a copy room- the very sort of place that he wouldn't go at the start of the whole situation.

Now he's clandestinely recorded Jimmy, and is very dishonestly scheming to plot his revenge. We see him hardly able to touch the tape recorder (something with a relatively small electrical footprint sets him off so badly because it a direct symbol of his betrayal), he even goes so far to keep it in an insulated faraday drawer, avoiding the pain it brings him.

An interesting throwaway line from Ernesto at the end of the episode "I miss the copy room." ... the one place Chuck won't go.

As he continues his scheming descent into corruption, obsessing over the white whale his brother represents; I think we're going to see Chuck's condition rapidly devolve. He will only heal when he accepts Jimmy, and that doesn't look likely.
I kept thinking back to what you wrote here throughout the rest of the season and it really holds up given the finale. That final brutal thrust of the knife led to his undoing
Yeah I remembered this breakdown by KJ and he seems to have hit the nail on the head.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 06:26 PM

so i gues season 4 is gonna be how jimmy,gus and mike will build the business that mr white kills gus and mike to take it over eventually.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 12:02 PM

View Postworkingthemangels63, on 21 June 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

so i gues season 4 is gonna be how jimmy,gus and mike will build the business that mr white kills gus and mike to take it over eventually.
I think we are getting very close to overlapping the BB timeline.  Gus is trying to buy the laundry business as a place to build a super lab which is something he is just trying to get up and running with Gale in the BB arc in season 3 I think?

BB ran for 5 seasons.  This is BCS 4th season.  I wonder if the end is in sight?

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 12:34 PM

View Postthesweetscience, on 22 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

View Postworkingthemangels63, on 21 June 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

so i gues season 4 is gonna be how jimmy,gus and mike will build the business that mr white kills gus and mike to take it over eventually.
I think we are getting very close to overlapping the BB timeline.  Gus is trying to buy the laundry business as a place to build a super lab which is something he is just trying to get up and running with Gale in the BB arc in season 3 I think?

BB ran for 5 seasons.  This is BCS 4th season.  I wonder if the end is in sight?
BCS is currently in 2003. BB started in 2008 so we may have to see some significant time jumps

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 09:13 PM

Hope to see much more extensive Gene fast forwards.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 10:49 PM

View Postthesweetscience, on 22 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

View Postworkingthemangels63, on 21 June 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

so i gues season 4 is gonna be how jimmy,gus and mike will build the business that mr white kills gus and mike to take it over eventually.
I think we are getting very close to overlapping the BB timeline.  Gus is trying to buy the laundry business as a place to build a super lab which is something he is just trying to get up and running with Gale in the BB arc in season 3 I think?

BB ran for 5 seasons.  This is BCS 4th season.  I wonder if the end is in sight?

View Postthesweetscience, on 22 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

View Postworkingthemangels63, on 21 June 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

so i gues season 4 is gonna be how jimmy,gus and mike will build the business that mr white kills gus and mike to take it over eventually.
I think we are getting very close to overlapping the BB timeline.  Gus is trying to buy the laundry business as a place to build a super lab which is something he is just trying to get up and running with Gale in the BB arc in season 3 I think?

BB ran for 5 seasons.  This is BCS 4th season.  I wonder if the end is in sight?

i am sure vince gil
lian has most of it planned out.he will probably tweek it to match the way the series evolves,just like breaking bad,i did not think season one of BCS was that good,but he picked it up here the last two seasons.probably amc,s 2nd best ever series so far.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 07:33 PM

View Postthesweetscience, on 21 June 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 21 June 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Based on some interviews I don't see this as an opener for Season 4
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Need a repost.


This season was brilliant.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 07:51 PM

View Postlerxt1990, on 23 June 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

View Postthesweetscience, on 21 June 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 21 June 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Based on some interviews I don't see this as an opener for Season 4
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Need a repost.


This season was brilliant.
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Posted 24 June 2017 - 12:24 AM

Yes, HAHAHAHAAAA

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 11:05 PM

Re-watching this, and it's even better the second time.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 11:12 PM

View Postworkingthemangels63, on 22 June 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

View Postthesweetscience, on 22 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

View Postworkingthemangels63, on 21 June 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

so i gues season 4 is gonna be how jimmy,gus and mike will build the business that mr white kills gus and mike to take it over eventually.
I think we are getting very close to overlapping the BB timeline.  Gus is trying to buy the laundry business as a place to build a super lab which is something he is just trying to get up and running with Gale in the BB arc in season 3 I think?

BB ran for 5 seasons.  This is BCS 4th season.  I wonder if the end is in sight?

View Postthesweetscience, on 22 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

View Postworkingthemangels63, on 21 June 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

so i gues season 4 is gonna be how jimmy,gus and mike will build the business that mr white kills gus and mike to take it over eventually.
I think we are getting very close to overlapping the BB timeline.  Gus is trying to buy the laundry business as a place to build a super lab which is something he is just trying to get up and running with Gale in the BB arc in season 3 I think?

BB ran for 5 seasons.  This is BCS 4th season.  I wonder if the end is in sight?

i am sure vince gil
lian has most of it planned out.he will probably tweek it to match the way the series evolves,just like breaking bad,i did not think season one of BCS was that good,but he picked it up here the last two seasons.probably amc,s 2nd best ever series so far.
Third, behind Mad Men and BB.




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