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Is Presto an 80's or 90's album?

  1. Presto is an 80's album (14 votes [41.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.18%

  2. Presto is a 90's album (20 votes [58.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 58.82%

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:35 AM

Released in 1989=80's album.  It was a different sound than HYF but it quietly ushered them into the next decade.  The only thing that was 90s about Presto was Neil's sweatshirt in the video for The Pass.  Other than that Roll the Bones, literally and stylistically was most definitely their first 90s album.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:17 AM

I really dont understand how the 90s has so many votes

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 04:11 AM

View Postsavagegrace26, on 18 December 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

I really dont understand how the 90s has so many votes
Probably because it was a semi dramatic shift from HYF along with how similar it is to RTB

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 04:21 AM

Presto is a sexy beast of an album.

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 10:20 PM

I LOVED it when they brought back Presto on the Time Machine tour.  There are some really great SONGS on here.  

Show Dont Tell is a monstrous track, and im calling it right now, we will hear this one on the next tour.   I also like The Pass, Scars, Anagram for Mongo, Chain Lightning.

Its altogther a better album than Roll The Bones which might be my least favourite of all.  Even if Dreamline and Wheres My Thing rank pretty high up there on all time rush FAVOURITES, the rest of the album I just cannot get into at all. Save for maybe The Big Wheel.

Technically - the start of a new decade is the 1's.  I dont know where I heard that, but I dont really subscribe to that theory.  Like for instance this decade "supposedly" started in 2011.  I dont get that.

By that logic, Permanent Waves was a 70's album.  Which it actually technically could be, it was written, recorded in 1979, and relase January 1.  thats basiaclly a 70s album.  Presto though? nah. 80s.

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 05:39 AM

View Postmaxdistortion, on 19 December 2014 - 10:20 PM, said:

I LOVED it when they brought back Presto on the Time Machine tour.  There are some really great SONGS on here.  

Show Dont Tell is a monstrous track, and im calling it right now, we will hear this one on the next tour.   I also like The Pass, Scars, Anagram for Mongo, Chain Lightning.

Its altogther a better album than Roll The Bones which might be my least favourite of all.  Even if Dreamline and Wheres My Thing rank pretty high up there on all time rush FAVOURITES, the rest of the album I just cannot get into at all. Save for maybe The Big Wheel.

Technically - the start of a new decade is the 1's.  I dont know where I heard that, but I dont really subscribe to that theory.  Like for instance this decade "supposedly" started in 2011.  I dont get that.

By that logic, Permanent Waves was a 70's album.  Which it actually technically could be, it was written, recorded in 1979, and relase January 1.  thats basiaclly a 70s album.  Presto though? nah. 80s.

Ive heard that theory as well. That is why there was much debate and confusion when the millennium was celebrated in 2000.

This bodes well for me: i could be an eighties child after all!

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 05:43 AM

View PostLedRush, on 15 December 2014 - 03:47 PM, said:

I think there is a difference between it being a 90s album or being a Rush 90s album.  I can see an argument for being a Rush 90s album as it shows a shift into a direction that was played out in the 90s.  But as far as the music goes, it, and RTB, are firmly rooted in 80s pop/rock sensibilities.  By 1991, RTB (and Presto) sounded very, very different than the rock that was on the radio...it seemed that it had been a relic of a time gone by.  This is largely because of production issues, and those were improved greatly on CP.
Presto sounded different than the rock that was on the radio because you were listening to the rock stations instead of the lite rock stations.  It fit right in on the latter.

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 03:09 PM

I would go along and say the 90's also .  Great Album. :rush:

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 08:49 PM

I agree with those who have commented that Presto is some what of an odd sounding album.  If nothing else, the mixing is different (IMO) from any other Rush album.  Has a thinness to it that no other album has and which, at first, I did not care for - a little to thin for me, at first.  Took me many years to get to like it.  But once I did - wow.  I think its a wonderful album.  Lyrics are great, songs, music - both are great.  And yes, the mixing is perfect.  It lets all the songs breathe.  Wonderful.

As for the 80's vs. 90's argument, I vote for it being an 80's album.  To me i sounds like a (I know this may not make sense but what the heck, it will make sense to me) radically logical progression from HYF.  Radically logical??  Yes.  Yes, thats what it is to me.

I would add that I would also say that RTB sounds like an 80's album to me.  If anything, its more of a throw back to the early 80's in a way.  Almost a logical jump from MP.  MP to Signals (yes both are 80's albums - just very different 80's albums) was almost an irrational jump.  

To me, Rush's first true 90's sounding album was Counterparts.

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 12:52 AM

View Postbathory, on 17 December 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

View PostLedRush, on 15 December 2014 - 03:47 PM, said:

I think there is a difference between it being a 90s album or being a Rush 90s album.  I can see an argument for being a Rush 90s album as it shows a shift into a direction that was played out in the 90s.  But as far as the music goes, it, and RTB, are firmly rooted in 80s pop/rock sensibilities.  By 1991, RTB (and Presto) sounded very, very different than the rock that was on the radio...it seemed that it had been a relic of a time gone by.  This is largely because of production issues, and those were improved greatly on CP.

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Yes, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.  Did you not understand what I was saying?

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 12:54 AM

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View PostLorraine, on 17 December 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:

Whatever Presto is, Rush should do Red Tide next tour.  Would make a great opening song.  :)

As we see the tide of fans with red stars ebb back to the concessions.

I doubt that. It's a high energy song and a heavier version would likely go over well.

But I forgot. You know how to read each audience members mind so you must be right.

rush crows look bored no matter what they f*ckin play.

What is a Rush crow?  Most songs seem to get enthusiastic responses.  Red Tide would not be one of those, I suspect.

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 12:55 AM

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View Postsavagegrace26, on 18 December 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

I really dont understand how the 90s has so many votes
Probably because it was a semi dramatic shift from HYF along with how similar it is to RTB

Which argues that it is a new direction for Rush, but not a 90's album.  It shares almost nothing with most 90s music other than RTB.

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 12:58 AM

View Postmaxdistortion, on 19 December 2014 - 10:20 PM, said:


Technically - the start of a new decade is the 1's.  I dont know where I heard that, but I dont really subscribe to that theory.  Like for instance this decade "supposedly" started in 2011.  I dont get that.

By that logic, Permanent Waves was a 70's album.  Which it actually technically could be, it was written, recorded in 1979, and relase January 1.  thats basiaclly a 70s album.  Presto though? nah. 80s.

The argument is that there was no year 0, so that means the first decade was year 1-10, the second 11-20 and so on.

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 01:33 AM

View PostLedRush, on 21 December 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

View PostGeddy, on 18 December 2014 - 04:11 AM, said:

View Postsavagegrace26, on 18 December 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

I really dont understand how the 90s has so many votes
Probably because it was a semi dramatic shift from HYF along with how similar it is to RTB

Which argues that it is a new direction for Rush, but not a 90's album.  It shares almost nothing with most 90s music other than RTB.
Fair enough, it sounds like 90s Rush album, but otherwise I suppose it's pretty 80s




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