YYZumbi Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I am sitting here and listening to Rush ABC 1974. A lot of people complains and get angry when I say that I have bought a Rush bootleg on CD and Vinyl. They have always, and so have I, thought that this is not a official album, but according to this site: http://rushvault.com/2014/10/05/what-to-make-of-rush-live-in-st-louis-1980-recording/ It is a official album!! A popular bootleg of Rush’s 1974 Agora Ballroom concert in Cleveland had been circulating free on the Internet for years in the same way under the title The Fifth Order of Angels before Rush in 2011 put out an authorized version along with three bonus tracks from their 1975 show at the same venue called ABC 1974. In addition to the bonus tracks, the recording quality on the authorized version had been cleaned up quite a bit, although it’s still a very raw sound. The band had said its release of ABC 1974 was an effort to reassert some control over its music, and it’s worth wondering if they should do the same thing with this recording. It could give them a chance to make the sonic quality of the recording even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) That's interesting - I wish the Rush Vault would give its source for that information. Edited November 14, 2014 by toymaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetersvt Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I had it on cassette in the late 80s. The sound quality of the CD is a huge improvement from the tape. But even back then, it was one of the better sounding bootlegs I had. Trading tapes through the mail with no clue what you were going to get sucked compared to now when you can download a song off of the internet in less than a minute. If the quality is good, you download the whole show. But, we did have the built up excitement that lasted a few days knowing you had some new Rush shows in the mail heading your way as opposed to seconds nowdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I ain't buying anything for the most part that I don't really need. No can do..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I ain't buying anything for the most part that I don't really need. No can do.....And so much of it is online. It's amazing how good some things sound if you just hook your laptop up to a reasonably decent set of speakers with a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I ain't buying anything for the most part that I don't really need. No can do..... :P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I ain't buying anything for the most part that I don't really need. No can do..... :PThat popped into my head too. A classic no doubt even for the haters.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official.Nothing here to see then..... :sigh: :outtahere: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZumbi Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official. their live album Clockwork Angels Tour, and Vapor Trails Remixed is not on their site either, does that makes them bootlegs as well...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official. their live album Clockwork Angels Tour, and Vapor Trails Remixed is not on their site either, does that makes them bootlegs as well...? Obviously, they have not updated the discography, but they are definitely selling them: http://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage/media-260/compact-discs/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZumbi Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official. their live album Clockwork Angels Tour, and Vapor Trails Remixed is not on their site either, does that makes them bootlegs as well...? Obviously, they have not updated the discography, but they are definitely selling them: http://www.rushbacks...iscs/index.html Maybe they just does not wanna sell it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official. their live album Clockwork Angels Tour, and Vapor Trails Remixed is not on their site either, does that makes them bootlegs as well...? Obviously, they have not updated the discography, but they are definitely selling them: http://www.rushbacks...iscs/index.html Maybe they just does not wanna sell it?Hey, Rush are cash grabbers, of course they would want to sell it! If it was official. It's not an official Rush album. Personally, I have no ethical problem with bootlegs if they are traded for free. In this day and age, if you buy a bootleg, you ripped yourself off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's on iTunes in the UK for what it's worth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZumbi Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official. their live album Clockwork Angels Tour, and Vapor Trails Remixed is not on their site either, does that makes them bootlegs as well...? Obviously, they have not updated the discography, but they are definitely selling them: http://www.rushbacks...iscs/index.html Maybe they just does not wanna sell it?Hey, Rush are cash grabbers, of course they would want to sell it! If it was official. It's not an official Rush album. Personally, I have no ethical problem with bootlegs if they are traded for free. In this day and age, if you buy a bootleg, you ripped yourself off. But you saw it you self, on the Rushvault-site, they are almost always right I have bought this bootleg three times. One CD and two vinyls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZumbi Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's on iTunes in the UK for what it's worth... See! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's on iTunes in the UK for what it's worth...That probably has to do with copyright laws in Europe. I'm sure a record company with no official affiliation with Rush can obtain copyrights to bootleg recordings. It just a hunch on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It actually says "Maltese"... It is there though: https://itunes.apple.com/mt/album/abc-1974-live/id482147474 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official. their live album Clockwork Angels Tour, and Vapor Trails Remixed is not on their site either, does that makes them bootlegs as well...? Obviously, they have not updated the discography, but they are definitely selling them: http://www.rushbacks...iscs/index.htmlWhich one is it because there on so many? May seem a silly question but I don't see it on there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's nowhere to be found on Rush's official website. Nowhere. It's not official. their live album Clockwork Angels Tour, and Vapor Trails Remixed is not on their site either, does that makes them bootlegs as well...? Obviously, they have not updated the discography, but they are definitely selling them: http://www.rushbacks...iscs/index.htmlWhich one is it because there on so many? May seem a silly question but I don't see it on there.... The link refers to Clockwork Angels Live and Vapor Trails Remix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetersvt Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It's on iTunes in the UK for what it's worth... For What It's Worth is on Feedback, not the ABC 1974 show. :smoke: :P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disk98 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It's on iTunes in the UK for what it's worth... For What It's Worth is on Feedback, not the ABC 1974 show. :smoke: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Fifth Order Of Angels sounds more like a bootleg for the Clockwork Angels tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Fifth Order Of Angels sounds more like a bootleg for the Clockwork Angels tour.It's not. I've heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Fifth Order Of Angels sounds more like a bootleg for the Clockwork Angels tour.It's not. I've heard it.Fifth Order Of Angels sounds more like a bootleg for the Clockwork Angels tour.It's not. I've heard it. I know that, I'm just saying that the name "Fifth Order Of Angels" sounds like it would be appropriate for a Clockwork Angels tour boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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