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#1 Relayer2112

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 10:07 AM

Just checking how many Rush people out there also like Marillion?

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 10:32 AM

I enjoy Marillion......Fish era more though. Script for a Jester's Tear is awesome.  Hogarth era wrote good tunes but i swear Steve's got the most boring voice on the planet.  My fav tune right now is Sugar Mice........beautiful.  Fish is peter Gabriel like.  and i've said i think Marillion does the  Gabriel era Genesis sound better then  Gabriel Genesis, lol

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:06 AM

I think both parts of their career (Fish and Hogarth) have great music to offer.  I do agree that Steve's voice does get a little tiresome after a while.  He's got a great voice and all, his delivery is just a little blah sometimes.

I enjoy the old stuff, it just doesn't seem to have aged as well with me as old Genesis has.  Too much 80's style keyboard in some of their earlier stuff.

I have been fortunate enough to see live both Hogarth era Marillion and Fish by himself (for Sunsets on Empire).  Both are great acts that seem to be losing some traction as the years go by.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:19 AM

Love Marillion! I think their best work is either Brave or Afraid of Sunlight, but I enjoy virtually everything they've done besides a few songs that grate on my ears. I would like to hear them change up their formula a bit on the next album, as Sounds That Can't Be Made was very similar to the album that preceded it.

I can't stand the Fish vs. Hogarth debate either. Both eras are fantastic, why compare them?

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:26 AM

I like the Fish-era. Clutching at Straws and Misplaced Childhood are amazing albums. Fish has some great solo albums too.

Hogarth-era... well... not really. There are occasional good moments in those albums but overall it's too much like Radiohead... read: "impotent, castrated new-age Brit prog".

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:13 PM

They are in my top 3 favorite bands of all time! LOVE them!!! Seen them in NYC IN 2012. Seen them 10 times total!

I love Fish, BUT I feel sorry for any fan who dismisses the H era because it insanely good!

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:15 PM

View PostDetonator, on 03 November 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

I like the Fish-era. Clutching at Straws and Misplaced Childhood are amazing albums. Fish has some great solo albums too.

Hogarth-era... well... not really. There are occasional good moments in those albums but overall it's too much like Radiohead... read: "impotent, castrated new-age Brit prog".
I see zero in common between H Marillion and Radiohead.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:17 PM

I bet they have at least a marillion fans

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:21 PM

I think Fish-Marillion is great, a awesome band! They died as a band thou when Fish left, they are kinda bad now.

I have seen Fish solo twice. Last time was on his last tour, I was on first row and shake Fish hand. :)

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:25 PM

With Marillion, there will always be the question of "What could have been?".  It's a shame that things went wrong with Fish when they were at their peak.  I think both sides ended up creating great music after the fact, but the question remains.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:28 PM

View PostGeddyLee, on 03 November 2014 - 12:21 PM, said:

I think Fish-Marillion is great, a awesome band! They died as a band thou when Fish left, they are kinda bad now.

I have seen Fish solo twice. Last time was on his last tour, I was on first row and shake Fish hand. :)
Solo Fish is very good. His latest album Feast of Consequences is better than good, its great!
I'm just surprised you think they are "kinda bad now"

I personally find the H era amazing! and more complex in nature than the stuff the did in the 80's.

But I have fought this battle before and to each his own. I just hope you are judging them by more than a small sample size you heard and discarded. Tell me you think the album "Marbles" is bad and I will have nothing more to say.
If you have not heard the album I strongly encourage you to do so!

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:30 PM

View PostTick, on 03 November 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

View PostDetonator, on 03 November 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

I like the Fish-era. Clutching at Straws and Misplaced Childhood are amazing albums. Fish has some great solo albums too.

Hogarth-era... well... not really. There are occasional good moments in those albums but overall it's too much like Radiohead... read: "impotent, castrated new-age Brit prog".
I see zero in common between H Marillion and Radiohead.

Really? I see a lot in common. Maybe not musically... but how both bands lack "power" and ability to hit the listener on the "gut level".

And don't think I haven't listened to both bands... I really tried to like Marbles and Brave as my friends praised them. I also tried to like In Rainbows, OK Computer and Kid A. I gave these albums a lot of time but they simply don't hit me at all... they're impotent music in very similar way. Thom Yorke sounds like a castrated sheep... Hogarth is much better but at times he falls into the same hole... too much quiet moments... you know King Crimson's "Moonchild"? Same problem... fake-artsy-impotent.

And it's not like he doesn't have talent... When Hogarth makes a rock song, he can sometimes hit the nail on the head. "Man of a thousand faces" for example... very good song.

That's how I see it... it's not for me. But hey... opinions are like...

Edited by Detonator, 03 November 2014 - 12:35 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:32 PM

View PostTick, on 03 November 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

View PostDetonator, on 03 November 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

I like the Fish-era. Clutching at Straws and Misplaced Childhood are amazing albums. Fish has some great solo albums too.

Hogarth-era... well... not really. There are occasional good moments in those albums but overall it's too much like Radiohead... read: "impotent, castrated new-age Brit prog".
I see zero in common between H Marillion and Radiohead.

Me too.......i was left scratching my head on that one.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:42 PM

Marillion in its prime.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 12:51 PM

View PostDetonator, on 03 November 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

View PostTick, on 03 November 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

View PostDetonator, on 03 November 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

I like the Fish-era. Clutching at Straws and Misplaced Childhood are amazing albums. Fish has some great solo albums too.

Hogarth-era... well... not really. There are occasional good moments in those albums but overall it's too much like Radiohead... read: "impotent, castrated new-age Brit prog".
I see zero in common between H Marillion and Radiohead.

Really? I see a lot in common. Maybe not musically... but how both bands lack "power" and ability to hit the listener on the "gut level".

And don't think I haven't listened to both bands... I really tried to like Marbles and Brave as my friends praised them. I also tried to like In Rainbows, OK Computer and Kid A. I gave these albums a lot of time but they simply don't hit me at all... they're impotent music in very similar way. Thom Yorke sounds like a castrated sheep... Hogarth is much better but at times he falls into the same hole... too much quiet moments... you know King Crimson's "Moonchild"? Same problem... fake-artsy-impotent.

And it's not like he doesn't have talent... When Hogarth makes a rock song, he can sometimes hit the nail on the head. "Man of a thousand faces" for example... very good song.

That's how I see it... it's not for me. But hey... opinions are like...
I won't presume to tell you what your own ears like and don't like. If you don't like H Marillion then you don't.
I own OK Computer and find it an ok album. (pun intended) I never felt the need to explore Radiohead any further than that.

I personally find H era Marillion to be powerful, emotional, and brilliantly written and arranged. and H is an amazingly captivating front man when I have seen him live on many occasion dating back to 1987.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 01:07 PM

View PostTick, on 03 November 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

View PostDetonator, on 03 November 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

View PostTick, on 03 November 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

View PostDetonator, on 03 November 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

I like the Fish-era. Clutching at Straws and Misplaced Childhood are amazing albums. Fish has some great solo albums too.

Hogarth-era... well... not really. There are occasional good moments in those albums but overall it's too much like Radiohead... read: "impotent, castrated new-age Brit prog".
I see zero in common between H Marillion and Radiohead.

Really? I see a lot in common. Maybe not musically... but how both bands lack "power" and ability to hit the listener on the "gut level".

And don't think I haven't listened to both bands... I really tried to like Marbles and Brave as my friends praised them. I also tried to like In Rainbows, OK Computer and Kid A. I gave these albums a lot of time but they simply don't hit me at all... they're impotent music in very similar way. Thom Yorke sounds like a castrated sheep... Hogarth is much better but at times he falls into the same hole... too much quiet moments... you know King Crimson's "Moonchild"? Same problem... fake-artsy-impotent.

And it's not like he doesn't have talent... When Hogarth makes a rock song, he can sometimes hit the nail on the head. "Man of a thousand faces" for example... very good song.

That's how I see it... it's not for me. But hey... opinions are like...
I won't presume to tell you what your own ears like and don't like. If you don't like H Marillion then you don't.
I own OK Computer and find it an ok album. (pun intended) I never felt the need to explore Radiohead any further than that.

I personally find H era Marillion to be powerful, emotional, and brilliantly written and arranged. and H is an amazingly captivating front man when I have seen him live on many occasion dating back to 1987.
Tick came out of his cave as soon as a someone made a Marillion thread I see! :smash: :eyeroll: :lol: :P
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Posted 03 November 2014 - 01:18 PM

there's great material with H but fish just kicks his ass, imo

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 01:21 PM

View Postbathory, on 03 November 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

there's great material with H but fish just kicks his ass, imo

Easily......to me it's not even close.  And forgive me.......but Hogarth sounds like he's constantly got a cold, lol

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 01:48 PM

For the record, I would never want Marillion to part ways with H in favor of a reunion with Fish. That would bum me out.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 02:41 PM

I don´t compare the two eras of the band at all - they are two completely different bands depending on who´s singing. I prefer Fish-era Marillion, and although the "other band with the same name" has some good songs (Easter, Hooks in You, Beautiful etc), I dislike 95% of their output.




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