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Poll: Snakes & Arrows VS Vapor Trails Remixed (59 member(s) have cast votes)

Snakes & Arrows VS Vapor Trails Remixed

  1. Snakes & Arrows (21 votes [35.59%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.59%

  2. Vapor Trails Remixed (38 votes [64.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 64.41%

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#21 ZachenFoot

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:30 PM

Vapor Trails Remixed.

I actually hated the original VT. Bad production can ruin an album for me. The remix was superbly done. Some songs lost a little character (the new "Freeze" was a notable letdown) and I still think "Out of the Cradle" is their worst song to date, but the difference in sound is night and day, and the new production takes the songs out of demo mode and make them sound finish.

I feel like we have the final vision of what VT was supposed to be, and it's a triumphant record. S&A doesn't even come close.

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:48 PM

Went with VT based on today's experience.  The re-mixed Ceiling Unlimited came on the I-shuffle and was amazing.

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 11:17 PM

This is very easy...S&A has Far Cry and the instrumentals, and everything else melts into one song of mid-tempo snooze fests.  VT is power, with great songs of loss and great lyrics.  This isn't close.

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:15 PM

Not a fan of either, but S&A is easily superior.

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:39 PM

VT by ten country miles.

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:49 PM

VT is the much greater album. As has been said before, Far Cry and the instrumentals are the only things worth listening to on Snakes which is tied with Presto for the worst Rush has to offer.

Who wants to listen to Geddy plod through Peart's sermons backed by turgid muck?   I'd rather listen to f***ing Coldplay.

Edited by laughedatbytime, 27 December 2017 - 02:49 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:58 PM

I like Vapor Trails more than Snakes & Arrows. I really lover Vapor Trails. Don't ilke VP remix though...so no vote from me

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 03:18 PM

I prefer the original mix (but not the mastering) for VT.

I ate that album up when it came out. It hit me in just the right place but now I can barely listen to it and the remix did nothing to change my opinion of the album.

That being said I prefer Snakes. Only one track does not float my boat and a couple of others arent very uniformly strong but enjoyable. Ill say two songs I straight dislike, Faithless and Bravest Face.

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 04:15 PM

View PostDigital Dad, on 27 December 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

Ill say two songs I straight dislike, Faithless and Bravest Face.

I will agree with that. Both songs I really dislike too. I couldn't believe they trotted out Faithless on the TM Tour. Wasted opportunity to play something from VT instead! :16ton:

Edited by Wil1972, 27 December 2017 - 04:15 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 08:19 PM

Tie if we're talking original Vapor Trails, Love them both.

Snakes And Arrows if we're talking remix.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 02:51 AM

Snakes and arrows for production, vaportrails original for passion and full on energy. Not heard SA remix, VP I simply can't get past that bass drum!

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:42 AM

Hmmm....polished turd vs polished turd

Hard to care really.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 06:56 PM

View PostFridge, on 28 December 2017 - 03:42 AM, said:

Hmmm....polished turd vs polished turd

Hard to care really.
Boy.  Don't you know that you can't polish a turd?

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 07:16 PM

I don’t remember the last time I listened to Snakes.

I’ve listened to the VT remix maybe just 3 or 4 times. Now it sits on the shelf gathering dust, mere centimeters away from his fellow dust collector, Snakes.


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:23 PM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 28 December 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

I don’t remember the last time I listened to Snakes.

I’ve listened to the VT remix maybe just 3 or 4 times. Now it sits on the shelf gathering dust, mere centimeters away from his fellow dust collector, Snakes.
I listen to both quite often, at least in part.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:42 PM

View Postgoose, on 28 December 2017 - 11:23 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 28 December 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

I don’t remember the last time I listened to Snakes.

I’ve listened to the VT remix maybe just 3 or 4 times. Now it sits on the shelf gathering dust, mere centimeters away from his fellow dust collector, Snakes.
I listen to both quite often, at least in part.

I prefer the original VT over the remix. I occasionally listen to the original. Spun that one sometime early last month.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:45 PM

I like Vapor Trails .. but the remix is unlistenable for me - much prefer the original

Freeze is one of their more underrated songs IMHO

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Edited by Lucas, 28 December 2017 - 11:46 PM.


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Posted 29 December 2017 - 08:46 AM

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I listen to both quite often, at least in part.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 09:28 AM

View Postcygnusthecat, on 29 December 2017 - 08:46 AM, said:

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I listen to both quite often, at least in part.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 12:12 PM

Made a VT playlist combining both versions,only OLV & Ghostrider from Remixed made it in

Although Ged's bass very much improved in the remix, Secret Touch just destroyed by all the other unnecessary changes

Bringing out the acoustic guitars in Earthshine interesting but end result suffers from loss in power

The engineering static, or whatever nasty stuff it is, at various parts of Peaceable Kingdom are simply appalling. I nearly asked for my money back

OLV definitely improved, if only by the end solo addition but i quite like the echoey drums too. The bass in remixed Ghost Rider just pure sex.

The original VT just blows S&A away for me, although S&A a great album overall which beats CA easily as an overall piece of work.

My combined VT playlist blows S&A away too obvs but not sure if the remixed VT on its own wins. Too much loss of power in parts and dont like a lot of the changes.

I mean, taking out that little lick of Al's in Ceiling Unlimited remixed was just daft and says it all really. I cant listen to that song as a result. When Alex Lifeson decides on something in track composition, you just leave it in and dont mess about.




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