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#1 Mara

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:14 PM

I am white, white, white. Not quite glow-in-the-dark white, but "pasty" is not far off.

Strangely enough I do tan well, but I won't do it anymore.  For one thing, I work and have hobbies and have better things to do with my time than to just lie around in the sun like I did in high school.  I don't need the skin damage and wrinkles.  But mainly I do not want skin cancer - my stepsister's husband, in his fifties, is probably going to be dead before this time next year from melanoma.  :(

But still, I wanted a little color.  So I did some research  - don't want to look streaky or like an Oompa Loompa - no orange.  I wanted something that would last and not sweat off (I sweat more in one workout than any five people do in three).

So I tried L'Oreal Sublime Bronze Mist.  I highly, HIGHLY recommend!  After two applications I was a nice warm brown.  A third and I looked like I'd spent a week in the Bahamas.  It dries in a snap, especially standing in front of a fan.  It smelled a little strong at first but that faded pretty quickly.  It lasts.  And most importantly, it passed the Mara Soaking Wet With Sweat test.  It didn't streak or run even though I was drenched from head to toe, and didn't even rub off on my white t-shirt.  Stuff is awesome. The only drawback is that the spray does go everywhere - I did it in the bathtub and the bottoms of my feet are now a very dark brown from walking around in it!  (But who cares - no one sees my feet).  It also did take up on the backs of my hands a lot faster than on the rest of me - after the first application I quit spraying them and they're still pretty dark and match the rest of me.

I did follow recommendations from other users to exfoliate thoroughly in the shower, shave whatever I usually shave (  ;)  ), and then moisturize like crazy before and after applying.

Mileage may vary - I didn't do "test spots" beforehand but would suggest it to make sure the color is what you want.  I had several days off from work and figured if it looked like shit after two days, I had time for it to wear off.  I also did NOT do my face.

Edited by Mara, 08 July 2014 - 10:16 PM.


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:31 PM

My regemine seems to be working out well.
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Jk, I have some Loreal face stuff. I like it.  I've also used Nutragena.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:17 AM

Maybe it's just me, but I think pale girls rule.

Glad you found a product you like, though.  "Sublime Bronze Mist" sounds like serious stuff.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:39 AM

There's "pale" and then there is "lost ships could use my legs as a beacon to find land".  I don't want to be mistaken for someone's handbag, like the chick umoveme posted above.  Not even close.  Just enough so that I am not reflective.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 01:39 PM

Cool, thanks for the recommendation.  I, too, have glow-in-the-dark legs.

Is it easy to get even coverage with this stuff?  Other things I've tried in the past have left streaks :(

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 01:41 PM

I don't tan very well, and I'm white. Whiter than a vampire! Well not that white, but white. I get bored lying around in the sun, so that doesn't help and I don't like the smell of sun cream and it's sticky all over your hands so you can't touch anything, so you can't do anything...except lie around in the sun. So I don't do all that stuff, not since the 80's. My skin is white but it's better off, it's not cracked like the earth in Death Valley in the middle of July.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 01:50 PM

Oh yeah I'll add that I too like pale girls a lot more than I used to. A permatan is not necessarily the great thing. Pale is just as good or better! :hail:

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:20 PM

I'm pale and I don't tan at all.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:24 PM

I don't self tan... and I haven't sunbathed in years.

I tried a tanning salon a few years back. Only for a about 3/4 weeks and only for about 3 minutes a session, but didn't enjoy that "microwaved" feeling you get after.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:07 PM

View Postx1yyz, on 09 July 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

Cool, thanks for the recommendation.  I, too, have glow-in-the-dark legs.

Is it easy to get even coverage with this stuff?  Other things I've tried in the past have left streaks :(

I didn't have any trouble with it being streaky.  I did miss a couple of spots on the first go, but it evened out after I hit it with the second wave.  You don't have to rub it in, but I now put on a pair of latex gloves (like hair colorist gloves) and smooth it out some - I think that does help keep it even.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 08:04 PM

View PostMara, on 09 July 2014 - 07:07 PM, said:

View Postx1yyz, on 09 July 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

Cool, thanks for the recommendation.  I, too, have glow-in-the-dark legs.

Is it easy to get even coverage with this stuff?  Other things I've tried in the past have left streaks :(

I didn't have any trouble with it being streaky.  I did miss a couple of spots on the first go, but it evened out after I hit it with the second wave.  You don't have to rub it in, but I now put on a pair of latex gloves (like hair colorist gloves) and smooth it out some - I think that does help keep it even.

Oh, the gloves are a great idea!  I've ended up with tanned hands before—looks quite odd.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:34 PM

View Postx1yyz, on 09 July 2014 - 08:04 PM, said:

View PostMara, on 09 July 2014 - 07:07 PM, said:

View Postx1yyz, on 09 July 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

Cool, thanks for the recommendation.  I, too, have glow-in-the-dark legs.

Is it easy to get even coverage with this stuff?  Other things I've tried in the past have left streaks :(

I didn't have any trouble with it being streaky.  I did miss a couple of spots on the first go, but it evened out after I hit it with the second wave.  You don't have to rub it in, but I now put on a pair of latex gloves (like hair colorist gloves) and smooth it out some - I think that does help keep it even.

Oh, the gloves are a great idea!  I've ended up with tanned hands before—looks quite odd.

Seriously, make sure you exfoliate with a loofah or something in the shower beforehand.  It'll cling to any dry patches of skin and those will end up darker.  I also put on a pretty generous amount of lotion (just Jergens, nothing fancy) beforehand and gave that some time to soak in.

And the bottoms of my feet are quite bronzed!  I got it all over the floor of the shower and then walked around in it - I just didn't think about that happening!  But no one sees the bottoms of my feet, so I don't care.

Edited by Mara, 09 July 2014 - 09:36 PM.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:13 AM

Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange.  I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:23 PM

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Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange.  I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.


the chemicals in self tanners and skin lotions are harmful - toxic even.  and this company tests on animals... :(  

Mara, you're better off spending 10-15 minutes a day in natural sunlight with no commercial sunscreen on.  most you want to build up to without protection is 30 minutes.  any longer than that  & use a natural sunscreen.  absorb that Vitamin D girl!  it does a body good - literally!

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:51 PM

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View PostYa_Big_Tree, on 10 July 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange.  I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.


the chemicals in self tanners and skin lotions are harmful - toxic even.  and this company tests on animals... :(  

Mara, you're better off spending 10-15 minutes a day in natural sunlight with no commercial sunscreen on.  most you want to build up to without protection is 30 minutes.  any longer than that  & use a natural sunscreen.  absorb that Vitamin D girl!  it does a body good - literally!
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:30 PM

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View PostYa_Big_Tree, on 10 July 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange.  I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.


the chemicals in self tanners and skin lotions are harmful - toxic even.  and this company tests on animals... :(  

Mara, you're better off spending 10-15 minutes a day in natural sunlight with no commercial sunscreen on.  most you want to build up to without protection is 30 minutes.  any longer than that  & use a natural sunscreen.  absorb that Vitamin D girl!  it does a body good - literally!

Don't care about the chemicals as long as we're not talking excessive amounts of, say, arsenic (an element, technically) or cyanide.  I mainline aspartame, which according to some people is akin to snorting ricin (despite scads of research indicating otherwise and the fact that the stuff's been around for 30+ years without being directly linked to a spike in cancer).  Tap water is also full of chemicals but I shower in it daily.   Oh well.
I may need to rethink based on the animal testing, though.  I have a choice - they do not.  (But is that hypocritical of me given that I eat meat)?

I'm not doing unprotected sun exposure to tan.  Am not.  I am watching a family lose its husband and father far too young from melanoma.  He wasn't a "sun worshiper" at all, but having fair skin and living in Arizona triggered that sequence that is going to kill him.

Edited by Mara, 10 July 2014 - 08:14 PM.


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 08:30 AM

View PostMara, on 10 July 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

View Postladirushfan80, on 10 July 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostYa_Big_Tree, on 10 July 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange.  I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.


the chemicals in self tanners and skin lotions are harmful - toxic even.  and this company tests on animals... :(  

Mara, you're better off spending 10-15 minutes a day in natural sunlight with no commercial sunscreen on.  most you want to build up to without protection is 30 minutes.  any longer than that  & use a natural sunscreen.  absorb that Vitamin D girl!  it does a body good - literally!

Don't care about the chemicals as long as we're not talking excessive amounts of, say, arsenic (an element, technically) or cyanide.  I mainline aspartame, which according to some people is akin to snorting ricin (despite scads of research indicating otherwise and the fact that the stuff's been around for 30+ years without being directly linked to a spike in cancer).  Tap water is also full of chemicals but I shower in it daily.   Oh well.
I may need to rethink based on the animal testing, though.  I have a choice - they do not.  (But is that hypocritical of me given that I eat meat)?

I'm not doing unprotected sun exposure to tan.  Am not.  I am watching a family lose its husband and father far too young from melanoma.  He wasn't a "sun worshiper" at all, but having fair skin and living in Arizona triggered that sequence that is going to kill him.

first this:   - http://theunboundeds...sunscreen-myth/

According to a June 2014 article featured in The Independent (UK), a major study conducted by researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden found that women who avoid sunbathing during the summer are twice as likely to die as those who sunbathe every day.
The epidemiological study followed 30,000 women for over 20 years and “showed that mortality was about double in women who avoided sun exposure compared to the highest exposure group.”
Researchers concluded that the conventional dogma, which advises avoiding the sun at all costs and slathering on sunscreen to minimize sun exposure, is doing more harm than actual good.


That’s because overall sun avoidance combined with wearing sunscreen effectively blocks the body’s ability to produce vitamin D3 from the sun’s UVB rays, which is by far the best form of vitamin D.

In the USA, vitamin D deficiency is at epidemic levels. Ironically, vitamin D deficiency can lead to aggressive forms of skin cancer. A ground-breaking 2011 study published in Cancer Prevention Research suggests that optimal blood levels of vitamin D offers protection against sunburn and skin cancer.

Additionally, vitamin D protects the body from diseases like multiple sclerosis, rickets (in the young), tuberculosis, inflammatory bowel disease, type 1 diabetes, inflammatory bowel disease, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus and Sjogren’s syndrome.

According to the Vitamin D Council, researchers at the University of Alabama at Birmingham recently reported that “lack of sun exposure may lead to cognitive decline over time.”

A dissident dermatologist

Bernard Ackerman, MD, (deceased 2008) was one of the world’s foremost authorities on the subject of skin cancer and the sun, sunscreens and melanoma skin cancer risks.

Below are Ackerman’s views excerpted from an article in The New York Times (July 20, 2004), titled “I BEG TO DIFFER; A Dermatologist Who’s Not Afraid to Sit on the Beach”:

The link between melanoma and sun exposure (dermatology’s dogma) is unproven.There’s no conclusive evidence that sunburns lead to cancer.There is no real proof that sunscreens protect against melanoma.There’s no proof that increased exposure to the sun increases the risk of melanoma.

A 2000 Swedish study concluded that higher rates of melanoma occurred in those who used sunscreen versus those who did not.

Sunscreens: Cancer-Causing Biohazards

Elizabeth Plourde, PhD, is a California-based scientist who authored the book Sunscreens – Biohazard: Treat as Hazardous Waste, which extensively documents the serious life-threatening dangers of sunscreens not only to people but to the environment as well.

Dr. Plourde provides proof that malignant melanoma and all other skin cancers increased significantly with ubiquitous sunscreen use over a 30-year period. She emphasizes that many sunscreens contain chemicals that are known carcinogens and endocrine-disrupting chemicals (EDC).

Environmentally, she notes: “In areas where there has been much exposure to ED [endocrine disrupting] chemicals, coral and other sea populations have died off and the prevalence of dual-sexed fish has risen.”

Dr. Plourde’s research on mice and sunscreen exposure also showed increases in both pup and maternal mortality as well as reproductive issues in subsequent generations.

Additionally, the book documents how sunscreen chemicals have polluted our water sources including oceans, rivers and municipal drinking water. Worse yet, testing revealed that 97% of Americans have sunscreen chemicals in their blood!

Dr. Plourde’s book also has a chapter on the importance of vitamin D3 to health, and she posits that the widespread vitamin D3 deficiency is linked to overuse of sunscreen combined with sun avoidance in general.

Sources:

http://www.independent.co.uk
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org
http://www.nytimes.com
http://www.faim.org
https://www.vitamindcouncil.org
http://science.naturalnews.com

Credit: “Compelling evidence: Slathering on toxic sunscreen and avoiding the sun could jeopardize your health and shorten your life,” from naturalnews.com, by Paul Fassa


It has become my belief based on a shit ton of research that absorbing all of these chemicals is a contributing factor and quite possibly a cause to cancer - not a preventative measure. there are natural sunscreens you can purchase and even make yourself...

In my opinion, it is not hypocritical to consume meat and want to support no more animal testing... i feel it does depend on where you choose purchase said animal products.  and for the record, L'Oreal is one of them who does test on animals... http://www.mediapeta...aniesdotest.pdf



i could also provide documentation supporting how horrible aspartame is... and how harmful fluoridated water is... etc etc etc.
People are going to choose what they feel they want or need in their life - and i'm not one to judge or convince them otherwise.  I'm just providing information...

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 10:25 AM

View Postladirushfan80, on 11 July 2014 - 08:30 AM, said:

View PostMara, on 10 July 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

View Postladirushfan80, on 10 July 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostYa_Big_Tree, on 10 July 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange.  I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.


the chemicals in self tanners and skin lotions are harmful - toxic even.  and this company tests on animals... :(  

Mara, you're better off spending 10-15 minutes a day in natural sunlight with no commercial sunscreen on.  most you want to build up to without protection is 30 minutes.  any longer than that  & use a natural sunscreen.  absorb that Vitamin D girl!  it does a body good - literally!

Don't care about the chemicals as long as we're not talking excessive amounts of, say, arsenic (an element, technically) or cyanide.  I mainline aspartame, which according to some people is akin to snorting ricin (despite scads of research indicating otherwise and the fact that the stuff's been around for 30+ years without being directly linked to a spike in cancer).  Tap water is also full of chemicals but I shower in it daily.   Oh well.
I may need to rethink based on the animal testing, though.  I have a choice - they do not.  (But is that hypocritical of me given that I eat meat)?

I'm not doing unprotected sun exposure to tan.  Am not.  I am watching a family lose its husband and father far too young from melanoma.  He wasn't a "sun worshiper" at all, but having fair skin and living in Arizona triggered that sequence that is going to kill him.

first this:   - http://theunboundeds...sunscreen-myth/

According to a June 2014 article featured in The Independent (UK), a major study conducted by researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden found that women who avoid sunbathing during the summer are twice as likely to die as those who sunbathe every day.
The epidemiological study followed 30,000 women for over 20 years and “showed that mortality was about double in women who avoided sun exposure compared to the highest exposure group.”
Researchers concluded that the conventional dogma, which advises avoiding the sun at all costs and slathering on sunscreen to minimize sun exposure, is doing more harm than actual good.

That’s because overall sun avoidance combined with wearing sunscreen effectively blocks the body’s ability to produce vitamin D3 from the sun’s UVB rays, which is by far the best form of vitamin D.
In the USA, vitamin D deficiency is at epidemic levels. Ironically, vitamin D deficiency can lead to aggressive forms of skin cancer. A ground-breaking 2011 study published in Cancer Prevention Research suggests that optimal blood levels of vitamin D offers protection against sunburn and skin cancer.
Additionally, vitamin D protects the body from diseases like multiple sclerosis, rickets (in the young), tuberculosis, inflammatory bowel disease, type 1 diabetes, inflammatory bowel disease, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus and Sjogren’s syndrome.
According to the Vitamin D Council, researchers at the University of Alabama at Birmingham recently reported that “lack of sun exposure may lead to cognitive decline over time.”
A dissident dermatologist

Bernard Ackerman, MD, (deceased 2008) was one of the world’s foremost authorities on the subject of skin cancer and the sun, sunscreens and melanoma skin cancer risks.
Below are Ackerman’s views excerpted from an article in The New York Times (July 20, 2004), titled “I BEG TO DIFFER; A Dermatologist Who’s Not Afraid to Sit on the Beach”:
The link between melanoma and sun exposure (dermatology’s dogma) is unproven.There’s no conclusive evidence that sunburns lead to cancer.There is no real proof that sunscreens protect against melanoma.There’s no proof that increased exposure to the sun increases the risk of melanoma.
A 2000 Swedish study concluded that higher rates of melanoma occurred in those who used sunscreen versus those who did not.
Sunscreens: Cancer-Causing Biohazards

Elizabeth Plourde, PhD, is a California-based scientist who authored the book Sunscreens – Biohazard: Treat as Hazardous Waste, which extensively documents the serious life-threatening dangers of sunscreens not only to people but to the environment as well.
Dr. Plourde provides proof that malignant melanoma and all other skin cancers increased significantly with ubiquitous sunscreen use over a 30-year period. She emphasizes that many sunscreens contain chemicals that are known carcinogens and endocrine-disrupting chemicals (EDC).
Environmentally, she notes: “In areas where there has been much exposure to ED [endocrine disrupting] chemicals, coral and other sea populations have died off and the prevalence of dual-sexed fish has risen.”
Dr. Plourde’s research on mice and sunscreen exposure also showed increases in both pup and maternal mortality as well as reproductive issues in subsequent generations.
Additionally, the book documents how sunscreen chemicals have polluted our water sources including oceans, rivers and municipal drinking water. Worse yet, testing revealed that 97% of Americans have sunscreen chemicals in their blood!
Dr. Plourde’s book also has a chapter on the importance of vitamin D3 to health, and she posits that the widespread vitamin D3 deficiency is linked to overuse of sunscreen combined with sun avoidance in general.
Sources:
http://www.independent.co.uk
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org
http://www.nytimes.com
http://www.faim.org
https://www.vitamindcouncil.org
http://science.naturalnews.com

Credit: “Compelling evidence: Slathering on toxic sunscreen and avoiding the sun could jeopardize your health and shorten your life,” from naturalnews.com, by Paul Fassa

It has become my belief based on a shit ton of research that absorbing all of these chemicals is a contributing factor and quite possibly a cause to cancer - not a preventative measure. there are natural sunscreens you can purchase and even make yourself...

In my opinion, it is not hypocritical to consume meat and want to support no more animal testing... i feel it does depend on where you choose purchase said animal products.  and for the record, L'Oreal is one of them who does test on animals... http://www.mediapeta...aniesdotest.pdf



i could also provide documentation supporting how horrible aspartame is... and how harmful fluoridated water is... etc etc etc.
People are going to choose what they feel they want or need in their life - and i'm not one to judge or convince them otherwise.  I'm just providing information...

it is never easy to lose loved ones nor is it easy to watch the pain and suffering of all those involved.  you have my understanding, love, & support.

So they should take a D3 supplement.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:08 PM

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View PostYa_Big_Tree, on 10 July 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Mara I'm as white as they come (red hair genes) I use Coconut oil to actually brown a bit with the sun naturally. It doesn't burn me and makes me a lil darker. Self tanners I use the Jergen's lotion with tint added for a lil colour. It's not striking and it's easy to apply and doesn't make you look orange.  I stay away from cancerous tanning beds like mad.


the chemicals in self tanners and skin lotions are harmful - toxic even.  and this company tests on animals... :(  

Mara, you're better off spending 10-15 minutes a day in natural sunlight with no commercial sunscreen on.  most you want to build up to without protection is 30 minutes.  any longer than that  & use a natural sunscreen.  absorb that Vitamin D girl!  it does a body good - literally!

Don't care about the chemicals as long as we're not talking excessive amounts of, say, arsenic (an element, technically) or cyanide.  I mainline aspartame, which according to some people is akin to snorting ricin (despite scads of research indicating otherwise and the fact that the stuff's been around for 30+ years without being directly linked to a spike in cancer).  Tap water is also full of chemicals but I shower in it daily.   Oh well.
I may need to rethink based on the animal testing, though.  I have a choice - they do not.  (But is that hypocritical of me given that I eat meat)?

I'm not doing unprotected sun exposure to tan.  Am not.  I am watching a family lose its husband and father far too young from melanoma.  He wasn't a "sun worshiper" at all, but having fair skin and living in Arizona triggered that sequence that is going to kill him.

first this:   - http://theunboundeds...sunscreen-myth/

According to a June 2014 article featured in The Independent (UK), a major study conducted by researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden found that women who avoid sunbathing during the summer are twice as likely to die as those who sunbathe every day.
The epidemiological study followed 30,000 women for over 20 years and “showed that mortality was about double in women who avoided sun exposure compared to the highest exposure group.”
Researchers concluded that the conventional dogma, which advises avoiding the sun at all costs and slathering on sunscreen to minimize sun exposure, is doing more harm than actual good.

That’s because overall sun avoidance combined with wearing sunscreen effectively blocks the body’s ability to produce vitamin D3 from the sun’s UVB rays, which is by far the best form of vitamin D.
In the USA, vitamin D deficiency is at epidemic levels. Ironically, vitamin D deficiency can lead to aggressive forms of skin cancer. A ground-breaking 2011 study published in Cancer Prevention Research suggests that optimal blood levels of vitamin D offers protection against sunburn and skin cancer.
Additionally, vitamin D protects the body from diseases like multiple sclerosis, rickets (in the young), tuberculosis, inflammatory bowel disease, type 1 diabetes, inflammatory bowel disease, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus and Sjogren’s syndrome.
According to the Vitamin D Council, researchers at the University of Alabama at Birmingham recently reported that “lack of sun exposure may lead to cognitive decline over time.”
A dissident dermatologist

Bernard Ackerman, MD, (deceased 2008) was one of the world’s foremost authorities on the subject of skin cancer and the sun, sunscreens and melanoma skin cancer risks.
Below are Ackerman’s views excerpted from an article in The New York Times (July 20, 2004), titled “I BEG TO DIFFER; A Dermatologist Who’s Not Afraid to Sit on the Beach”:
The link between melanoma and sun exposure (dermatology’s dogma) is unproven.There’s no conclusive evidence that sunburns lead to cancer.There is no real proof that sunscreens protect against melanoma.There’s no proof that increased exposure to the sun increases the risk of melanoma.
A 2000 Swedish study concluded that higher rates of melanoma occurred in those who used sunscreen versus those who did not.
Sunscreens: Cancer-Causing Biohazards

Elizabeth Plourde, PhD, is a California-based scientist who authored the book Sunscreens – Biohazard: Treat as Hazardous Waste, which extensively documents the serious life-threatening dangers of sunscreens not only to people but to the environment as well.
Dr. Plourde provides proof that malignant melanoma and all other skin cancers increased significantly with ubiquitous sunscreen use over a 30-year period. She emphasizes that many sunscreens contain chemicals that are known carcinogens and endocrine-disrupting chemicals (EDC).
Environmentally, she notes: “In areas where there has been much exposure to ED [endocrine disrupting] chemicals, coral and other sea populations have died off and the prevalence of dual-sexed fish has risen.”
Dr. Plourde’s research on mice and sunscreen exposure also showed increases in both pup and maternal mortality as well as reproductive issues in subsequent generations.
Additionally, the book documents how sunscreen chemicals have polluted our water sources including oceans, rivers and municipal drinking water. Worse yet, testing revealed that 97% of Americans have sunscreen chemicals in their blood!
Dr. Plourde’s book also has a chapter on the importance of vitamin D3 to health, and she posits that the widespread vitamin D3 deficiency is linked to overuse of sunscreen combined with sun avoidance in general.
Sources:
http://www.independent.co.uk
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org
http://www.nytimes.com
http://www.faim.org
https://www.vitamindcouncil.org
http://science.naturalnews.com

Credit: “Compelling evidence: Slathering on toxic sunscreen and avoiding the sun could jeopardize your health and shorten your life,” from naturalnews.com, by Paul Fassa

It has become my belief based on a shit ton of research that absorbing all of these chemicals is a contributing factor and quite possibly a cause to cancer - not a preventative measure. there are natural sunscreens you can purchase and even make yourself...

In my opinion, it is not hypocritical to consume meat and want to support no more animal testing... i feel it does depend on where you choose purchase said animal products.  and for the record, L'Oreal is one of them who does test on animals... http://www.mediapeta...aniesdotest.pdf



i could also provide documentation supporting how horrible aspartame is... and how harmful fluoridated water is... etc etc etc.
People are going to choose what they feel they want or need in their life - and i'm not one to judge or convince them otherwise.  I'm just providing information...

it is never easy to lose loved ones nor is it easy to watch the pain and suffering of all those involved.  you have my understanding, love, & support.

So they should take a D3 supplement.

a D or D3 supplement would help.  but the best source of vitamin D is literally soaking up the sun.  10-20 minutes a day depending on where you live is all a body needs... :)

but it's more than just soaking up the sun and/or taking a supplement.  it's attitude.  emotions. dietary intake.  exercise. state of mind.   it's all connected.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 03:23 PM

I can't disagree with any of that.

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