Aikenrooster Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Well, Croatia gets robbed, as referees call a foul on them, in the penalty box, with a tie game, which was a dive, and Brasil takes the lead, then goes on to win 3-1, gaining the first 3 points in group A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pat-garofalo/2014/06/11/brazils-world-cup-stadium-in-manaus-highlights-out-of-control-costs According to current estimates, the price tag for Brazil’s World Cup will be about $11.5 billion. That amount, combined with the bill for the 2016 Summer Olympics, which are scheduled to take place in Rio de Janeiro, has many Brazilians questioning whether their nation might have been better off spending its money on something else. Last year, the country was wracked by days of protests during the Confederations Cup, a pre-World Cup tournament, with protesters holding signs that read “Health and Education, Not the Cup.” "People are going hungry and the government builds stadiums," Eleuntina Scuilgaro, an 83-year-old protester, told The New York Times. Perhaps no World Cup site exemplifies the extravagance of the tournament more than Manaus. Four games will take place in the city – including a match between the United States and Portugal on June 22 – located 900 miles up the Amazon River. Manaus is the only city in Brazil’s vast Amazonas state to play host, and its distance from the other host cities will cause some teams to log thousands of miles during the month-long tournament. (The U.S. will travel nearly 9,000 miles just for its three first-round games, according to an analysis by the online publication Quartz.) Most travel sites explicitly warn against attempting to reach the city by road. The games will be played in the 42,000-seat Arena Amazonia, built specifically for the World Cup for about $300 million. Brazilian officials portray the stadium as an investment in developing Manaus’ economy. But according to experts, there’s good reason to doubt that the stadium – which won’t house a top-flight Brazilian soccer team once the World Cup is over – can drive development or tourism. FIFA sucks. I feel bad for the people of Brazil, I would love to get Rod's take on this one! Wonder if he is part of the 60% opposed to hosting the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikenrooster Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 http://www.usnews.co...f-control-costs According to current estimates, the price tag for Brazil’s World Cup will be about $11.5 billion. That amount, combined with the bill for the 2016 Summer Olympics, which are scheduled to take place in Rio de Janeiro, has many Brazilians questioning whether their nation might have been better off spending its money on something else. Last year, the country was wracked by days of protests during the Confederations Cup, a pre-World Cup tournament, with protesters holding signs that read “Health and Education, Not the Cup.” "People are going hungry and the government builds stadiums," Eleuntina Scuilgaro, an 83-year-old protester, told The New York Times. Perhaps no World Cup site exemplifies the extravagance of the tournament more than Manaus. Four games will take place in the city – including a match between the United States and Portugal on June 22 – located 900 miles up the Amazon River. Manaus is the only city in Brazil’s vast Amazonas state to play host, and its distance from the other host cities will cause some teams to log thousands of miles during the month-long tournament. (The U.S. will travel nearly 9,000 miles just for its three first-round games, according to an analysis by the online publication Quartz.) Most travel sites explicitly warn against attempting to reach the city by road. The games will be played in the 42,000-seat Arena Amazonia, built specifically for the World Cup for about $300 million. Brazilian officials portray the stadium as an investment in developing Manaus’ economy. But according to experts, there’s good reason to doubt that the stadium – which won’t house a top-flight Brazilian soccer team once the World Cup is over – can drive development or tourism. FIFA sucks. I feel bad for the people of Brazil, I would love to get Rod's take on this one! Wonder if he is part of the 60% opposed to hosting the cup.Yeah, I think if I'm ever going to take my philosophy seriously, I'm going to have to quit watching sports. The corporate commercialism backed by central bank loans that have to be paid back by the unborn is sickening, and the people who watch sports, like me, are neutralized sitting in front of the tv. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Of course I'm against Brazil hosting huge events like the World Cup and the Olympics while our hospitals and schools struggle. Protests and strikes are still happening and most likely will continue until October, when we have a presidential election. A lot was promised in terms of legacy of the WC, but the government did not deliver. Airports did not finish their refurbishment, subways were not 100% finalized etc. I'm not one of the protesters, but generally support their cause if the protest is not violent - unfortunately it hasn't been the case on a bunch of occasions. With all that said, I'll try to watch as many games as I can, but not at the venues. FIFA will not see a single dime off my pocket. Brazil's win today was a shame, they got a penalty shoot which simply did not exist. Football wise it will be an interesting WC: Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar etc. should be fun to watch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 http://www.usnews.co...f-control-costs According to current estimates, the price tag for Brazil’s World Cup will be about $11.5 billion. That amount, combined with the bill for the 2016 Summer Olympics, which are scheduled to take place in Rio de Janeiro, has many Brazilians questioning whether their nation might have been better off spending its money on something else. Last year, the country was wracked by days of protests during the Confederations Cup, a pre-World Cup tournament, with protesters holding signs that read “Health and Education, Not the Cup.” "People are going hungry and the government builds stadiums," Eleuntina Scuilgaro, an 83-year-old protester, told The New York Times. Perhaps no World Cup site exemplifies the extravagance of the tournament more than Manaus. Four games will take place in the city – including a match between the United States and Portugal on June 22 – located 900 miles up the Amazon River. Manaus is the only city in Brazil’s vast Amazonas state to play host, and its distance from the other host cities will cause some teams to log thousands of miles during the month-long tournament. (The U.S. will travel nearly 9,000 miles just for its three first-round games, according to an analysis by the online publication Quartz.) Most travel sites explicitly warn against attempting to reach the city by road. The games will be played in the 42,000-seat Arena Amazonia, built specifically for the World Cup for about $300 million. Brazilian officials portray the stadium as an investment in developing Manaus’ economy. But according to experts, there’s good reason to doubt that the stadium – which won’t house a top-flight Brazilian soccer team once the World Cup is over – can drive development or tourism. FIFA sucks. I feel bad for the people of Brazil, I would love to get Rod's take on this one! Wonder if he is part of the 60% opposed to hosting the cup.Yeah, I think if I'm ever going to take my philosophy seriously, I'm going to have to quit watching sports. The corporate commercialism backed by central bank loans that have to be paid back by the unborn is sickening, and the people who watch sports, like me, are neutralized sitting in front of the tv. I love sports but I do sometimes feel like a hypocrite lending any support at all to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Well, Croatia gets robbed, as referees call a foul on them, in the penalty box, with a tie game, which was a dive, and Brasil takes the lead, then goes on to win 3-1, gaining the first 3 points in group A.Did you think there was any chance that Brazil would be allowed to lose that game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 By the way...I love the Cup! http://www.artcaffe.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Vuvuzela.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 http://www.usnews.co...f-control-costs According to current estimates, the price tag for Brazil’s World Cup will be about $11.5 billion. That amount, combined with the bill for the 2016 Summer Olympics, which are scheduled to take place in Rio de Janeiro, has many Brazilians questioning whether their nation might have been better off spending its money on something else. Last year, the country was wracked by days of protests during the Confederations Cup, a pre-World Cup tournament, with protesters holding signs that read “Health and Education, Not the Cup.” "People are going hungry and the government builds stadiums," Eleuntina Scuilgaro, an 83-year-old protester, told The New York Times. Perhaps no World Cup site exemplifies the extravagance of the tournament more than Manaus. Four games will take place in the city – including a match between the United States and Portugal on June 22 – located 900 miles up the Amazon River. Manaus is the only city in Brazil’s vast Amazonas state to play host, and its distance from the other host cities will cause some teams to log thousands of miles during the month-long tournament. (The U.S. will travel nearly 9,000 miles just for its three first-round games, according to an analysis by the online publication Quartz.) Most travel sites explicitly warn against attempting to reach the city by road. The games will be played in the 42,000-seat Arena Amazonia, built specifically for the World Cup for about $300 million. Brazilian officials portray the stadium as an investment in developing Manaus’ economy. But according to experts, there’s good reason to doubt that the stadium – which won’t house a top-flight Brazilian soccer team once the World Cup is over – can drive development or tourism. FIFA sucks. I feel bad for the people of Brazil, I would love to get Rod's take on this one! Wonder if he is part of the 60% opposed to hosting the cup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Very good! ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Of course I'm against Brazil hosting huge events like the World Cup and the Olympics while our hospitals and schools struggle. Protests and strikes are still happening and most likely will continue until October, when we have a presidential election. A lot was promised in terms of legacy of the WC, but the government did not deliver. Airports did not finish their refurbishment, subways were not 100% finalized etc. I'm not one of the protesters, but generally support their cause if the protest is not violent - unfortunately it hasn't been the case on a bunch of occasions. With all that said, I'll try to watch as many games as I can, but not at the venues. FIFA will not see a single dime off my pocket. Brazil's win today was a shame, they got a penalty shoot which simply did not exist. Football wise it will be an interesting WC: Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar etc. should be fun to watch.You think the Olympics committee is corrupt until you start looking at FIFA. I can see the Olympics coming to be a bit of a benefit seeing all the infrastructure improvements, and the fact the Olympics don't rape the host country quite as bad as FIFA does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The Jon Oliver video should be broadcast in schools, as far as I´m concerned. I don´t think I´ve ever seen a better summary of the dissatisfactions with this WC. Another thing I don´t think he mentions is that FIFA wanted 8 stadiums to host games, but the Brazilian government insisted on having 12. Another excuse to laundry all the money between governments and construction companies. Why would you build a huge stadium in Manaus, where the average attendance at a soccer match is less than 1,000 people? I´m not even mad at Oliver´s stereotyping of Brazilians - he´s right, we ARE excited about everything. Some of my posts here on the forum are proof of that! ;) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The Jon Oliver video should be broadcast in schools, as far as I´m concerned. I don´t think I´ve ever seen a better summary of the dissatisfactions with this WC. Another thing I don´t think he mentions is that FIFA wanted 8 stadiums to host games, but the Brazilian government insisted on having 12. Another excuse to laundry all the money between governments and construction companies. Why would you build a huge stadium in Manaus, where the average attendance at a soccer match is less than 1,000 people? I´m not even mad at Oliver´s stereotyping of Brazilians - he´s right, we ARE excited about everything. Some of my posts here on the forum are proof of that! ;)Manuas stands out to me too... that thing built in the jungle will only host 4 games?? Can't really even drive there - right? Seems like a HUGE waste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikenrooster Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 Mexico gets 3 points with the win over Cameroon! If they can beat Croatia, they should advance. Referees again made bad calls, according to news stories, screwing Mexico out of 2 goals by calling phoney offsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I saw the Mexico goals that were annulled...both should have been validated!!! Holland vs Spain was a great game! Who knew Holland had so many tricks in the bag? I'm watching Chile - Australia right now...should be easy for Chile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscanobarga Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Hopefully the end of Tiki-Taka is upon us. It was always just a slightly prettier version of Catenaccio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritz44 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Wasn't easy for Chile after all, despite the 3-1 scoreline. The Aussies were the better side in the second half. We play the Italians tonight. Two european teams in the Brasilian heat - draw written all over it. Well I can hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucey Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Wasn't easy for Chile after all, despite the 3-1 scoreline. The Aussies were the better side in the second half. We play the Italians tonight. Two european teams in the Brasilian heat - draw written all over it. Well I can hope. I think we could beat them, providing we start one of Barkley or Sterling and not just "park the Bus". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The British better hope that a tiebreaker doesn't go to the country with the better food. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I'm really surprised with Costa Rica...they did quite well against Uruguay. Great 2nd half with Uruguay thinking it would be an easy win, but ended up getting olé'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Italy 2 England 1 Final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 The England - Uruguay match next week has now taken a dramatic context and will most likely be a great game, with both teams desperate to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Italy 2 England 1 Final England lacked composure in the final 3rd and this defeat could be fatal. However, this as always going to be a learning experience first and foremost for the likes of Sturridge, Sterling, Welbeck, Barkley and Lallana, zero expectations from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 The England team visited an orphanage in Brazil today. "I'ts heartbreaking to see their sad little faces with no hope." Said José, 6 years old. :D :D :D 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 21:30 pm here, and Japan - Ivory Coast is on in few minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikenrooster Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 I forgot just how good Italia is. They play defense first, and foremost, and they don't really care if you have the ball more than they do. Then, when they have the ball, they just kick it around a bit, luring you to sleep, and then, they strike lightening quick. In the last 20 minutes of that game, both teams were used up. The weather was similar to the weather in Florida, and luckily, they played that game at night. England in trouble now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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