Cygnus 2112 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Whatever. It happens. If any thing was intentional they didn't rip off the SONG. Stuff like this happens all the time, since the beginning of writing music. The freakin' "ABC Song" is "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star". And they both ripped off Happy Birthday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I'm just surprised Journey could riff like this! I picked them up on the Evolution album and hadnt't listened to anything before. And yes, the two parts from the songs sound very much alike. However, as Schon is swimming in and out of his gold pieces, I doubt he suffered much from it. Edit: It's like when someone back on tNMS accused Geddy's bass riff at the and of the live version of "CTTH" of being a rip off of the jam in "My Sharona".You hooked up with Journey just a little to late. I am a fan of early Journey, but I can say that about just about every 70's band. :codger: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatLightInYourEyes Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.You gotta BS degree right? That's awesome bro. Artistic Sequestration. Good band name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.You gotta BS degree right? That's awesome bro. Artistic Sequestration. Good band name.Is it "go" time? Is it "go" time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Clearly Journey got in their delorean and plagiarized xanadu. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) Me too. :codger: Edited November 1, 2013 by Narpet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiRising79 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.You gotta BS degree right? Ask 1001.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Come on guys. I got this ticket free, but I still want to see a good fight! :codger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.You gotta BS degree right? Ask 1001..I send salutations, sadly the chap seldom answers...sniff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most. GR79 I'm sorry for bringing this to light. I see your point of view entirely, believe me. But look at it this way: Neal Schon could not capitalize on it. He didn't know how to take the next step in the progressional wheel. While Alex, Geddy and Neil did. They turned a little 4 second riff into a well crafted opus called Xanadu and spring boarded into three other albums from there. Journey didn't even have the foresight to add words to the riff and left it as an instrumental jam over the same repeating riff. The way I see it. Neal Schon came up with a sketch and Rush created a masterpiece. :musicnote: :musicnote: :musicnote: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.You are aware of the genesis of La Villa Strangiato? It's far from an original composition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.You are aware of the genesis of La Villa Strangiato? It's far from an original composition.Don't do it man! GR79 might slash his wrist! Honestly, I can't believe this hasn't been discussed here before. Edited November 1, 2013 by losingit2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most. GR79 I'm sorry for bringing this to light. I see your point of view entirely, believe me. But look at it this way: Neal Schon could not capitalize on it. He didn't know how to take the next step in the progressional wheel. While Alex, Geddy and Neil did. They turned a little 4 second riff into a well crafted opus called Xanadu and spring boarded into three other albums from there. Journey didn't even have the foresight to add words to the riff and left it as an instrumental jam over the same repeating riff. The way I see it. Neal Schon came up with a sketch and Rush created a masterpiece. :musicnote: :musicnote: :musicnote:L2K—whacking the hive I see?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.GR79 I'm sorry for bringing this to light. I see your point of view entirely, believe me. But look at it this way: Neal Schon could not capitalize on it. He didn't know how to take the next step in the progressional wheel. While Alex, Geddy and Neil did. They turned a little 4 second riff into a well crafted opus called Xanadu and spring boarded into three other albums from there. Journey didn't even have the foresight to add words to the riff and left it as an instrumental jam over the same repeating riff. The way I see it. Neal Schon came up with a sketch and Rush created a masterpiece. :musicnote: :musicnote: :musicnote:L2K—whacking the hive I see?!? Leave it to me right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 He'll probably end up hating everything Rush has recorded and extend his trolling further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 He'll probably end up hating everything Rush has recorded and extend his trolling further. Nah, he just saw his father in the Santa suite that's all! Everything that came prior and after was still RUSH. Neal Schon had a gold nugget and placed it back in the river. Alex knew better! :Alex: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 He'll probably end up hating everything Rush has recorded and extend his trolling further. Nah, he just saw his father in the Santa suite that's all! Everything that came prior and after was still RUSH. Neal Schon had a gold nugget and placed it back in the river. Alex knew better! :Alex:You're funny when you drink...what is the Cuban drink of choice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 He'll probably end up hating everything Rush has recorded and extend his trolling further.Nah, he just saw his father in the Santa suite that's all! Everything that came prior and after was still RUSH. Neal Schon had a gold nugget and placed it back in the river. Alex knew better! :Alex:You're funny when you drink...what is the Cuban drink of choice? Cuba Libre! Or a Corona. Neither which I partake of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiRising79 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.You are aware of the genesis of La Villa Strangiato? It's far from an original composition. Three Magnum Opus Rush albums are now compromised, imo, but please go on anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I defy anyone to present an artist that doesn't borrow, rip-off or steal. To me this is a non-issue. Totally different songs. Non-issue? Are you being serious? The power chord, arpeggio-type and Chorus effect here are not only the foundation for the entire Hemispheres album, but strongly influential in Permanent Waves, and to a lesser degree, MP. It is NOT unique only to a specific passage in Xanadu. The artistic "sequestration" here manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most.You are aware of the genesis of La Villa Strangiato? It's far from an original composition. Three Magnum Opus Rush albums are now compromised, imo, but please go on anyway. :laughing guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Nickel and Dime is a nothing instrumental that no one cares about. Neal Schon probably forgot all about it by 1978. Journey fans memories don't go back to 1977. This is the epitome of a non-issue. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Nickel and Dime is a nothing instrumental that no one cares about. Neal Schon probably forgot all about it by 1978. Journey fans memories don't go back to 1977. This is the epitome of a non-issue. The artistic "sequestration" manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most. How can you not see that? Oh wait... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Nickel and Dime is a nothing instrumental that no one cares about. Neal Schon probably forgot all about it by 1978. Journey fans memories don't go back to 1977. This is the epitome of a non-issue. The artistic "sequestration" manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most. How can you not see that? Oh wait...I don't even know if sequestration is a real word or not and if it is is it in context? It's something to do with horses isn't it? :hail: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Nickel and Dime is a nothing instrumental that no one cares about. Neal Schon probably forgot all about it by 1978. Journey fans memories don't go back to 1977. This is the epitome of a non-issue. Burning the midnight oil with Treeduck...speak oh wise man. He may be from Manchester, but he's right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Nickel and Dime is a nothing instrumental that no one cares about. Neal Schon probably forgot all about it by 1978. Journey fans memories don't go back to 1977. This is the epitome of a non-issue. The artistic "sequestration" manifests itself on a scale beyond the comprehension of most. How can you not see that? Oh wait...I don't even know if sequestration is a real word or not and if it is is it in context? It's something to do with horses isn't it? :hail:I just know it's something Obama doesn't like............. :codger: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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