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I Finally Listened To The Vapor Trails Remix!!!

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losingit2k

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I was hopeful that you'd given it a chance with your thread title, and given the free RS stream which actually sounded good.. it sounded like you actually listened to it at least once. I couldn't get past your second sentence however. If you don't give it a fair shake, then your opinion is pure unadulated bullshit. f**k you. :)

 

:LMAO:

 

I LITERALLY lol'ed on that one! Wow, such venomous hate over one person's opinion on a music album. Sometimes I think people worship Rush as a religion, and saying anything bad about them is like taking the Lord's name in vain. It's really not that important an issue in the grand scheme of things, not even close.

 

That is clearly some of what we are dealing with here: blind (or should we call it "deaf") devotion to a great, but not infalliable, band.

 

I compltely understand the phenomenon, because I used to be that way with Yes. Everything they did was great, every turd they dropped was chocolate ice cream. And then the album Open Your Eyes really opened my ears to the fact that Yes were not perfect, and had not been perfect for a really, really long time.

 

When people are locked into hero-whorhsip mode, and their very identity is wrapped up in being a rabid fan of a particular band, weird things will happen. Suddenly you find yourself believing that Steve Howe's guitar tone has been great all along, instead of starting to suck after the first Asia album. Or you would swear that We Can't Dance was as good an album as Duke. Or that Vapour Trails is a great Rush album that only suffered from poor engineering during recording. And anyone who would dare criticize the quality of the songs is a hater or a Debbie Downer.

 

To quote another awful Rush song, "It is what it is, and whatever."

 

Of course, all opinions expressed above are subject to change at any time.

 

;)

 

The "hero worship" thing does make it difficult to have an honest discussion about whether an album or performance is good or not.

 

I listened to the remix. I've always liked VT, but I don't love it. I listened to the remix on my car stereo and on my iPod. If I'm being honest, I can't tell if I notice a difference in sound, or if I just think I should.

 

I have actually heard a pretty significant difference, even just listening to it ove the RS site.

 

I hear I hugh difference from headphones to regular Speakers in my car. This remix was obviously aimed towards earbuds or IPOD use. Regardless, Its a hugh improvement over the original release. You can at least enjoy the songs for what they are without distractions.
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rushgoober

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Goobs -

 

Here is the deal. I am going to explain to you why everyone gets pissed about this whole thing.

 

VT - okay, its not Rush's best album, the original was of poor quality. We get it. Most people on TRF are huge Rush fans, as you are.

 

People get frustrated because you cant say even 1 positive thing. Literally you have stated there is not even one song that is better than shit.

 

Everyone else says, "sure it might not be their best, but to say its just SPOS (steaming pile of shit) and that all the songs are terrible? You come off as just be a stubburn old fart that really hasnt given it a good try. You have made up your mind, and this is your personal crusade. I think at this point you really couldnt give it a fair try with the new remix as you your mind is so made up and you are so stubborn about it.

 

If you gave it a fair try, I am pretty confident that it would still be your least favorite Rush album, but you could probably make a better case for your opinion than "my ears bleed", "im not a masachist" etc.. And, you also would actually find a few moments or a song that you would get some enjoyment out of.

 

No. You're just adding grist to his mill, unfortunately.

 

Yeah, stop trying to take my fun away! :P

 

I tried VT over and over and over and over again, especially when I joined the board and couldn't believe that people liked the album. I kept trying to see what people saw in it and failed miserably. I listened to a song or two of the remix - enough to know that it was the same thing with just less painful sound. It would be an exercise in extreme futility and unnecessary ear pain.

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I think you and nerd boy should get a room, then you can hate each all you want. Really dude, who cares what you think. Go join the Trenken( Mr. Happy fan club). Vapor trail RULES

 

It's posts like this that make me want to troll all day long.

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rushgoober

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I think you and nerd boy should get a room, then you can hate each all you want. Really dude, who cares what you think. Go join the Trenken( Mr. Happy fan club). Vapor trail RULES

 

Apparently you care what I think because you always read my posts and threads and comment on them. :P

 

Hating an album by a music group isn't the same as being a hateful person, not even close, but those in Rush hero worship mode can't tell the difference. I just enjoy debate and spicy conversation. And who's nerd boy?

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I think you and nerd boy should get a room, then you can hate each all you want. Really dude, who cares what you think. Go join the Trenken( Mr. Happy fan club). Vapor trail RULES

 

It's posts like this that make me want to troll all day long.

Knock yourself out!!!!
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Moved to Grand Designs.. priceless!

 

:clap:

 

It's probably appropriate as we don't need any more VT threads choking up the Rush sub-forum, even if it is the only sane one there other than the VT is shit thread.

 

:rfl:

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I think you and nerd boy should get a room, then you can hate each all you want. Really dude, who cares what you think. Go join the Trenken( Mr. Happy fan club). Vapor trail RULES

 

It's posts like this that make me want to troll all day long.

 

:cheers:

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Moved to Grand Designs.. priceless!

 

:clap:

 

It's probably appropriate as we don't need any more VT threads choking up the Rush sub-forum, even if it is the only sane one there other than the VT is shit thread.

 

:rfl:

 

In fact, it shows how deep the Rush is my religion hero worship everything they touch is gold philosophy actually runs if a thread like this has to be moved because people don't want to hear that the emperor has no clothes. I feel bad for people listening to such a bad album and thinking it's good.

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I'm so happy about a particular recent development that resulted from this thread that I'm not even going to bother to point out that it's not so much "debate" Goober enjoys as it is "slinging insults and derogatory adjectives with no reasoned discussion of viewpoints."

 

Oh, wait... :oops: :lol:

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I'm so happy about a particular recent development that resulted from this thread that I'm not even going to bother to point out that it's not so much "debate" Goober enjoys as it is "slinging insults and derogatory adjectives with no reasoned discussion of viewpoints."

 

Oh, wait... :oops: :lol:

 

I like the name Vapor Trolls - it's appropriate! Actually, it's my favorite one I've had yet! :cheers:

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Goobs, are you ever going to like Vapor Trails?

 

Or am I going to climb into this Forum and use you as a scratching post? :P

 

Oh babycat, don't make any promises you can't keep. :P

 

:LMAO: ..!

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I'm so happy about a particular recent development that resulted from this thread that I'm not even going to bother to point out that it's not so much "debate" Goober enjoys as it is "slinging insults and derogatory adjectives with no reasoned discussion of viewpoints."

 

Oh, wait... :oops: :lol:

 

I like the name Vapor Trolls - it's appropriate! Actually, it's my favorite one I've had yet! :cheers:

 

I feel honoured to have been the one to facilitate its bestowing upon you ;)

 

By the way, I think it's awesome that you feel bad for me about my listening to Vapour Trails and thinking it's good, because I feel exactly the same way about you and Counterparts! :yes: :lol:

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I'm so happy about a particular recent development that resulted from this thread that I'm not even going to bother to point out that it's not so much "debate" Goober enjoys as it is "slinging insults and derogatory adjectives with no reasoned discussion of viewpoints."

 

Oh, wait... :oops: :lol:

 

I like the name Vapor Trolls - it's appropriate! Actually, it's my favorite one I've had yet! :cheers:

Ask and ye shall recieve.

 

New title Vapor Troll.. priceless!

 

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Ok, I really didn't. I kept thinking with all this fantastically obnoxious talk about the VT remix I should really listen to it and see what I think, but after suffering through the 30 second clips and no improvement whatsoever over the original other than it being less physically painful to listen to (clearer sound doesn't magically make bad songs good), I just couldn't do it. I want to, in theory, but when it comes down to it I'm just not that masochistic to put myself through an hour plus of such a horrible album again when there is so much good and great music out there for my ears to spend time with instead.

 

Looking at the Rush board these days with 800 threads about Rush's worst moment in their recorded history (by a very long margin) is pretty disgusting and obnoxious. Likely many feel the same way about my posts on the matter and this thread. it is what it is, but thankfully it's not forever as VT's new 15 minutes will soon be up and people will revert back to talking about their great albums again.

 

And the ironic thing is all this talk is about an album that will at most sell a few thousand copies and be enjoyed only by the most rabid, forgiving and sentimental of their hardcore fan base.

 

With all the mastrubatory VT threads out there, someone needs to be the voice of reason and remember that this album is still a giant steaming POS.

 

Maybe it's time for a little vacation off this board then? ;)

 

Just kidding - your posts doesn't bother me :)

 

I honestly can't fathom why so many people get bothered by the opinions of one person about a music group (especially since I love most of their albums), but some people take it way too seriously, and oddly WAY too personally. Just disagree and write me off as crazy if you don't like my opinions, or ignore me entirely, but some people just can't seem to help themselves and are like moths to a flame... every time! :P

 

Goober,

 

I'm going to hunt you down like a slimy dog and tether you to a poll and force you to listen to this newly polished work of art you call a "turd"! Then after you have suffered through this painful ordeal, I will make you listen to it again and remove one of your toe nails after each song so you would know what real pain is. Then I will take these appendages and make a soup out of them, hang you over the pot and have you soak in the Vapor of steam rising from this keratin concoction before you are force fed the putrid soup. Oh, but it wouldn't be over then. Oh no, not by a long shot. After a Day of this prolonged event I will wait for you to defecate an enormous putrefied excrement and carefully I'll grab this Steaming pile of Crap (with Gloves of course) insert it into a turkey baster which will then inject this colon induced stool sample into your ears and ask:

 

"Compare! Which Steaming pile of crap do you prefer!" :P

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