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#341 treeduck

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 04:10 PM

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View PostTick, on 02 October 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

Overrated... I will say, Ace Frehley
The thing about Frehley is a lot of people think he's dumb and he can't even read music or something but he's actually very knowledgeable. A enormous amount of people now judge KISS as talentless clowns who just got by on the gimmick of costumes and masks. So in that light he's actually underrated.

I don't listen to Kiss or Aces solo material but if there's is one talented memeber of that band its him. Gene and Paul can kiss me arse.
I never said he wasn't talented but some think he is a guitar great. He's just not that good.
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Posted 10 October 2015 - 05:16 PM

Definatly Clapton for me.

He had Cream.  But Solo he's boring and bland to my ears.

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 04:30 AM

View Postbluefox4000, on 10 October 2015 - 05:16 PM, said:

Definatly Clapton for me.

He had Cream.  But Solo he's boring and bland to my ears.

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 04:38 AM

Do people really praise Kurt Cobain as a guitarist?

I always assumed they were praising him as a musician an artist, which is fair praise. As a guitarist he's nothing special.

I remember seeing the solo for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" being with the top 20-something guitar solos on a top 100 list for some website... That guitar solo is literally just the vocal line of the verses played on the guitar, why would it ever be considered even a good guitar solo?

(which reminds me, if you're a guitarist in desire of a headache, listen to Weezer's "Green Album"... Every single song on that album has a guitar solo of this same fashion, the vocal line played again on the guitar. All 10 songs of the album. I'm not exaggerating...)

Nirvana isn't overrated but Kurt is.

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 04:47 AM

Slash
Kirk Hammett
Daron Malakian (the fact that I saw this guy listed as "underrated" here on TRF qualifies him as "overrated" in my book)

David Gilmour
I find that Gilmour is the go-to example of guitarists when people argue "emotional playing > technical ability". He can bend some strings during ambient interludes. Cool. For the longest time I despised Pink Floyd for being boring / overrated / stoner music, and I still consider the band to be these things... But now I can appreciate their music enough to the point to like them, but still consider them overrated... Especially David and the fact that he can hold a note. Again, how cool.

Here's a one man band who's both very emotional and technical:



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Posted 11 October 2015 - 02:21 PM

View Postbluefox4000, on 10 October 2015 - 05:16 PM, said:

Definatly Clapton for me.

He had Cream.  But Solo he's boring and bland to my ears.

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I wouldn't go that far.  Some of it strikes me that way, but there are some gems as well.

Can't stand Layla in the original version.  Unplugged is cool, though.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 01:46 PM

The only track from Clapton that I like is from the short lived Derek and the Dominoes.

It's "Why Does Love Have To Be So Sad" Otherwise he just seems so boring, even when playing the Blues classics like "Further Up On The Road"

His solos don't seem to go anywhere and always fail to keep my attention.

It's a mystery to me how he has managed to remain so popular.

Then again, that's music for you.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 02:32 PM

Clapton i've dug through some solo stuff.  but he strikes me more as someone who works better in a band playing off of others.  left on his own.  he just.......glides along in the background.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 02:35 PM

I wouldn't know...

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 02:48 PM

I don't know about over rated. Maybe over hyped is a good term for some of them anyway. It seems everywhere I go I hear something about Joe Bonamasa. He was even on tv the other day. I guess every once in a while the media needs a white blues hero. For a long time it was Stevie Ray Vaughn. It's like people have to convince themselves that white guys can make music like this too.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 02:53 PM

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I'm not sure if you guys have soul-meters, but I don't think any of you can honestly tell me that you can tell whether or not a guitarist has "soul" or not...
I am sorry but i have to name drop here.Back in the eighties iwas trying my hardest to be the next Van Halen.By chance i met a bloke from Texas called Stevie Ray Vaughan and played with him for about half an hour.We played a blues jam and he let me take first solo.Of couse i showed off and virtually did EVH's Eruption over this 12  bar jam.He took next solo and he played one note.I felt like packing my guitar away so powerful was that opening note.He told me later 'That i wasn't a bad guitar player but i played a bit too fast'slow down and think about the notes'.I have never forgot those words.Flash is great and recently saw Malmsteen(see my photo)who was mesmerising in his own ego i am God way,but give me a guitarist who can say something with a couple of notes is forever lasting.Anyway my vote is Slash because he doesn't move me and i think it's more about his image and Kirk! H!,get yer foot off that damn wah-wah.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 02:57 PM

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I don't know about over rated. Maybe over hyped is a good term for some of them anyway. It seems everywhere I go I hear something about Joe Bonamasa. He was even on tv the other day. I guess every once in a while the media needs a white blues hero. For a long time it was Stevie Ray Vaughn. It's like people have to convince themselves that white guys can make music like this too.
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Posted 12 October 2015 - 03:11 PM

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I don't know about over rated. Maybe over hyped is a good term for some of them anyway. It seems everywhere I go I hear something about Joe Bonamasa. He was even on tv the other day. I guess every once in a while the media needs a white blues hero. For a long time it was Stevie Ray Vaughn. It's like people have to convince themselves that white guys can make music like this too.

Go see Joe live, he's fantastic!

A top top guitarist.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 03:17 PM

I have a dvd of Joe B live and he is good when he plays slow blues but his rockers don't  do much for me.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 03:20 PM

Bruce Springsteen.

Ain't nothing but power Chords.

i'm putting this here becuse..........i like dissing springsteen, lol.

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 02:12 PM

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I don't know about over rated. Maybe over hyped is a good term for some of them anyway. It seems everywhere I go I hear something about Joe Bonamasa. He was even on tv the other day. I guess every once in a while the media needs a white blues hero. For a long time it was Stevie Ray Vaughn. It's like people have to convince themselves that white guys can make music like this too.

Go see Joe live, he's fantastic!

A top top guitarist.

Why would I see him live when I can just watch him on tv? :P I think he was on PBS. Anyway, I know what you mean. I'm sure he's great live but he's not near the top of my list.

A few years ago a guy I used to go to concerts with had an extra ticket to see Eric Johnson so I went. I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Maybe not my first choice either and I'm not much into the guitar hero thing but I remember it being really good. This was in the summer of 2011.





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