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#1 Akron162

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:59 PM

Ive never listened to Opeth, not once, not even by accident, not one song. But i was reading how they are one of the biggest exponents of the progressive metal in the last 20 years or so.

So i said, "meeeh, why not..." and  looked for one of their cited songs: "Advent".

It started playing and as soon as the music started i said "this is not bad at all", it continued for a moment and i said "this is actually pretty good", it kept going and i said "wow, this is really awesome"... and then the f***ing vocals started... those stupid annoying growls and shrieks and all that bullshit that i hate so much in black and death metal. My heart plummeted to my feet.

i kept listening for a while, and the music just kept getting better and better, but those hideous growls just continued to get in the way. I had to stop it.

I'm heartbroken right now. What a way to ruin some awesome music. If it wasn't for those stupid vocals i would be getting all their albums now.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:14 PM

I can remember when I thought like that. My suggestions are to either get into death metal somehow (Amon Amarth did it for me) or listen to Opeth's non-metal stuff such as Damnation and Heritage. Hope that helps.

Oh and Opeth do have a few metal songs without growls such as A Fair Judgement, Face of Melinda, and Porcelain Heart.

Edited by adace1, 18 March 2013 - 05:16 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:17 PM

Harvest is a good hit song by them.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:22 PM

I couldn't stand the growling vocals on Opeth tracks for a very long time but the music was just so good I got drawn in. Blackwater Park is now my favourite album by them, followed by their latest, non growl, Heritage.
I can't listen to any other band with death metal vocals, one is enough for me.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:27 PM

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#6 Akron162

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:33 PM

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

I used to feel the same way.  The death growls kept me away from Opeth for a long time. But thanks to the persistence of TRF members sullysue and -Jane-, I finally decided to give them a whole hearted try.  I bought Watershed and just listened to it, and kept listening to it.  Not all of their songs have death growls, and even the ones that do, they aren't necessarily all death growls.  Anyway, I was converted after that, and I've grown to really enjoy and appreciate the way Mikael growls, to the point of trying to imitate it, especially while driving.  I don't sound anything like him, but it sure is fun to make the faces like I do.

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Also, the albums Heritage and Damnation have no death growls on them, at all.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:23 PM

I was also the same way with Opeth's use of death growls. At first I hated them, then I began to tolerate them, and now I enjoy them most of the time. While it's not my favorite vocal style I'm able to listen to and enjoy other bands with growling vocalists due to Opeth.

However, my two favorite Opeth albums happen to be Damnation and Heritage - the only ones without any growling.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:35 PM

You lot love the death growls and the black screamos, you're just trying to preserve your trendy image for your latest girlfriend, so she doesn't call you an old fart rocker again...

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:36 PM

never understood the hatred for growls if they're done well...not every vocalist should sound like geoff tate

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:55 PM

View Postbathory, on 18 March 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

never understood the hatred for growls if they're done well...not every vocalist should sound like geoff tate

Fully agree!!! If they´re done well and fit the song, I think they´re great. I saw Opeth live in ´06 just after Ghost Reveries was released, and man, what a show!!! Akerfeldt effortlessly changes from growling to melodic vocals on the same sentence, and it sounds freaking evil when he goes back and forth.

I really like his growling vocals, but the band is so good that I didn´t mind when they left them behind for Heritage. I think Akron 162 should give them another shot, and start straight with Heritage!

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:56 PM

Opeth is awesome. I'm pretty much with everyone else, as it took me a bit to get into growls also. My first experience with them was a German gothic metal band called Darkseed and I slowly started to like growling more and more. From there, it was a bit easier for me because of how much I enjoyed the band. So, at least you like Opeth's music for now. I'm sure you can get used to the growls if you really like the music. But, they're not for everyone.

But if you can't stand the growls and still just love the music, then you have to get Damnation. A brilliant record with no growling vocals, as others have said. I love that album.

Edited by HemispheresserehpsimeH, 18 March 2013 - 06:56 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:07 PM

If this was the TS's first time with Opeth, he really needs to give them more of a go.  Or perhaps he's just not ready for them.  He's knows they are out there, and what their music sounds like.  Maybe it just needs to sink in some, like it did for me.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:54 PM

View Postbathory, on 18 March 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

never understood the hatred for growls if they're done well...not every vocalist should sound like geoff tate

Actually i dont really like Geoff Tate either. I think he oversings.

But is good to know about the Heritage and Damnation albums. I will check them out.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 01:15 AM

I usually dislike growls, too, but Opeth is so awesome that I don't mind them at all with them.  It took a bit of time for me to really warm up to them, and some of them are still a bit much for me at times, but I can handle them.  The music and the normal voices are more than great enough to make them hackable.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:22 AM

I felt the same way at first.  I got Ghost Reveries, listened to it for a bit, didn't like the growls, so put it away.  Then a few months later I played it again and it suddenly clicked for me, and now they're one of my favourite bands, and my two least favourite of their albums are the ones where there are no growls :lol:

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:52 AM

Akron, if you like the music - and what's there not to like? -  you'll find a way to come to terms with the growls.
I suggest the song Bleak from Blackwater Park: it's probably the best song to find a sort of "meaning" to the growls in Opeth's music. The stark contrast between clean parts and growling parts is what makes the song. It wouldn't be the same if sung all clean. Come back and tell me I'm wrong. :D-13:

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 01:03 PM

View PostH. P. L., on 19 March 2013 - 05:52 AM, said:

Akron, if you like the music - and what's there not to like? -  you'll find a way to come to terms with the growls.
I suggest the song Bleak from Blackwater Park: it's probably the best song to find a sort of "meaning" to the growls in Opeth's music. The stark contrast between clean parts and growling parts is what makes the song. It wouldn't be the same if sung all clean. Come back and tell me I'm wrong. :D-13:
I feel the same way about Hessian Peel from Watershed.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:17 AM

Can't that that Mikael's death growls (well death growls in general) turned me off of Opeth when I first started out, but the growls at the time was more of a thing that I needed to warm up to because I wasn't of a death metal listener at the time. It took some time and effort, but eventually they clicked with me. It's because of Opeth that I could pretty much listen to anything with death growls, screaming, etc. in it and enjoy it.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:05 AM

View PostPolarizeMe, on 20 March 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

Can't that that Mikael's death growls (well death growls in general) turned me off of Opeth when I first started out, but the growls at the time was more of a thing that I needed to warm up to because I wasn't of a death metal listener at the time. It took some time and effort, but eventually they clicked with me. It's because of Opeth that I could pretty much listen to anything with death growls, screaming, etc. in it and enjoy it.

You are not a natural english speaker, are you? No offense, me neither.

Anyway, maybe i would give it another try, but it's gonna be hard, i really dislike that style of singing.




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