Lost In Xanadu Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I know the PC era Genesis takes a bit of a beating here, but curious to see what the PG era Genesis fans think are the proggiest PC Genesis tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Lately I've actually been digging portions of And Then There Were Three (Burning Rope, Deep in the Motherlode, Down and Out) and Duke (Behind the Lines, Duchess, Duke's Travels, Duke's End). And I've always loved Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering. I've tried but just cannot get into anything after Duke, although I like Abacab the song, mostly out of youthful nostalgia. I will defend Phil, however, in that he isn't solely to blame for the shift to overt pop. It's my understanding that it's Tony, more so than Mike and Phil, who doesn't like playing the old material. And I think Phil has gone on record saying the Lamb is his favorite Genesis album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 One thing both era fans can agree on is that Mama is a fing classic of theirs. PC always delivers the goods when it comes to his darker songs like that and In The Air Tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sawyer Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 one of my favs... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akron162 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 They are not prog enough. Thats the best i can say about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I've recently heard some tunes from a mini LP called "Spot the Pigeon". I think they were outtakes from what would have been on "Wind and Wuthering". Love the tune "Inside and Out". If you haven't heard it, check it out here. The first half is slow and acoustic but then bang! it begins to rock!: http://youtu.be/gPgj5XN_SK0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I've recently heard some tunes from a mini LP called "Spot the Pigeon". I think they were outtakes from what would have been on "Wind and Wuthering". Love the tune "Inside and Out". If you haven't heard it, check it out here. The first half is slow and acoustic but then bang! it begins to rock!: http://youtu.be/gPgj5XN_SK0 Yeah, that's a cool EP. They are indeed Wind and Wuthering outtakes. But they are not of an inferior quality; they simply did not fit the flow and feel of the album. I have a copy of the EP on blue vinyl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Never really cared for the PG stuff. Was turned on to Genesis during the PC days so I find I like that stuff best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 One thing both era fans can agree on is that Mama is a fing classic of theirs. PC always delivers the goods when it comes to his darker songs like that and In The Air Tonight. Surprisingly, I listened to Mama earlier - very good! :) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Bay Rush Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Anything from Trick of the Tail. If I had to pick one, Dance on a Volcano. Took me a while to figure that odd time out on the drums. 7/8 if I remember correctly?????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Personally I think Home By The Sea is a classic. There are a few PC songs that are excellent... but not a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) I can't really pick a favorite. When i first got "Wind and Wuthering" I loved it immediately with Eleventh Earl of Mar being my favorite tune. Eventually I got "Trick of the Tail" which I liked but took a few plays to really get into. I love it now. "And then there were three" is a very transitional album with shorter pop tunes but somehow still progressive sounding. I'm thinking Duke is the first pop oriented album. edit: The first time i ever heard of "Trick of the Tail" or even classic 70s Genesis was in an interview with Geddy or Alex in a magazine at the time of Power Windows. They mentioned "Dance on a Volcano" specifically. I'm like "huh?" never heard of that! Edited March 9, 2013 by circumstantial tree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I love trick of the tail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Another vote for Home By The Sea - that song is GREAT - the Home By the Sea/Second Home section is awesome. I also love the song Abacab, One for the Vine and Duke's Travels/Duke's End are really good, and of course all of Trick of the Tail reigns supreme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugen Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 a trick, wind. are prog, after that duke, a little..., and a couple of songs on others albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 One thing both era fans can agree on is that Mama is a fing classic of theirs. PC always delivers the goods when it comes to his darker songs like that and In The Air Tonight.I like Plenty of Phil era stuff. Abacab is great, and I like Man on the Corner, in the darker vein. Some of the MoTown-influenced stuffs is good by me, too. No Reply At All, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) I love the Phil Collins lead-singer era of Genesis' music... "A Trick of the Tail"; "Wind and Wuthering" and "...And Then There Were Three" are simply amazing start to finish. I recently listened to all of the Genesis albums (studio/live/compilations) start to finish in cronological order and was surprised at just how good the albums from the 1980s are and just how well they've held up. The pop stuff is very good, the rest (non-pop stuff, I guess you could call it) is fantastic. Edited March 9, 2013 by ReGorLaTroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Bay Rush Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The pop songs are all really good songs if you like pop style songs. And, they made buckets of money starting right around the early 80s. (Collins has a net worth of something like USD, $200 million). I think the debate (or argument) comes from the old hard-core early Genny prog fans (like me) who feel like the band sold out, pretty much starting with Duke. If you were never unsure if Genesis sold out with Duke and everything after, ask yourself this - could you see Peter Gabriel singing those songs and being the frontman of the band on those albums? No goddam way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 If you were never unsure if Genesis sold out with Duke and everything after, ask yourself this - could you see Peter Gabriel singing those songs and being the frontman of the band on those albums? No goddam way.I'm not sure I'd call ceasing to churn out self-indulgent prog that virtually no one wants to hear anymore "selling out". I'd call it a natural evolution for a band that wanted to keep making new music that they found interesting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I love the Phil Collins lead-singer era of Genesis' music... "A Trick of the Tail"; "Wind and Wuthering" and "...And Then There Were Three" are simply amazing start to finish. I recently listened to all of the Genesis albums (studio/live/compilations) start to finish in cronological order and was surprised at just how good the albums from the 1980s are and just how well they've held up. The pop stuff is very good, the rest (non-pop stuff, I guess you could call it) is fantastic.That comic sans ms, cursive text is quite difficult to read on tablets and phones, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Inside and Out is probably the last decent true Prog song Genesis released. I'm not a fan of post W&W Genesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 That comic sans ms, cursive text is quite difficult to read on tablets and phones, pal. Sorry, thanks for letting me know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priest_of_syrinx Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 "Me and Sarah Jane" may not have anything crazy rhythmically, but harmonically it is a beast of a song. If that isn't progressive, I don't know what is. "Cul de Sac" is another song with many progressive elements that isn't mentioned often. And "Down and Out" is an extremely obvious mention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Owl Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 A Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering I still consider among their "Prog era" albums... It was really after Steve Hackett left the band that Genesis started trending towards the shorter pop-heavy albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I never liked Wind and Wuthering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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