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#21 EmotionDetector

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:54 PM

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Personally, I enjoy sitting down, relaxing, and taking in the music, rather than jumping around and flailing my arms like an asshole. smile.gif

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MD?? Really?

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 29 2012, 06:54 PM)
QUOTE (metaldad @ May 29 2012, 06:45 PM)
QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 29 2012, 05:43 PM)
Personally, I enjoy sitting down, relaxing, and taking in the music, rather than jumping around and flailing my arms like an asshole. smile.gif

Thank You  goodpost.gif

MD?? Really?

I'm shocked! You're METALdad afterall...

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:01 PM

QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 29 2012, 06:43 PM)
Personally, I enjoy sitting down, relaxing, and taking in the music, rather than jumping around and flailing my arms like an asshole. smile.gif

All jokes aside...no offence, but you need to get off your high horse just a bit.

You're seriously calling every person who goes to rock concerts and decides that they are going to stand, oh...and wait for it...have fun air drumming / air guitar and whatnot assholes? Really?  wacko.gif  

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:03 PM

Well, if you're as old as the band, you're probably a grizzled asshole yourself.

I guess if you have to take a different pill everyday and can no longer turn on an oven without forgetting you've done so, even a Rush concert isn't enough to help you chill out and have some fun.  

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

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This is the third thread about standing vs. sitting in the past three weeks. Each of the other times, amid all the insults that people throw at each other, it boils down to: just don't be a jerk about standing or sitting at the show. Go with the flow.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

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Same here, if I'm off the floor. On the floor, standing is the rule, I get that, and I'd never argue it. But the further back from the floor you get, the more you'll find people sitting and enjoying the show. That's why I said go with the flow earlier - if you're the lone jerkoff who is standing up, jumping around like a lunatic and blocking people's view behind you, *you* are the problem, not *them*.

But as we saw in the other two threads about this - and in almost every response here - there is no one as selfish as a concert goer. "I don't care if I ruin your night as long as I'm not inconvenienced in any way" is the norm.

Well, I can certainly agree with the first part...

I rarely, if ever, see people standing in the upper bowl...and I follow suit.

...and yeah, that's why since my ridiculous experience on the R30 Tour, I now focus only on getting FLOOR seats. I want to have that guarantee that I can stand and enjoy myself at the shows. So far, so good thankfully.

Your concept the "selfish concert goer"...yeah, that applies to BOTH sides. The guy standing might be selfish, but the guy who sits there bitching at them, telling them to NOT have fun, and throwing crap at them is equally selfish.

That's life I guess.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:29 PM

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QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 29 2012, 06:48 PM)
Same here, if I'm off the floor. On the floor, standing is the rule, I get that, and I'd never argue it. But the further back from the floor you get, the more you'll find people sitting and enjoying the show. That's why I said go with the flow earlier - if you're the lone jerkoff who is standing up, jumping around like a lunatic and blocking people's view behind you, *you* are the problem, not *them*.

But as we saw in the other two threads about this - and in almost every response here - there is no one as selfish as a concert goer. "I don't care if I ruin your night as long as I'm not inconvenienced in any way" is the norm.

Well, I can certainly agree with the first part...

I rarely, if ever, see people standing in the upper bowl...and I follow suit.

...and yeah, that's why since my ridiculous experience on the R30 Tour, I now focus only on getting FLOOR seats. I want to have that guarantee that I can stand and enjoy myself at the shows. So far, so good thankfully.

Your concept the "selfish concert goer"...yeah, that applies to BOTH sides. The guy standing might be selfish, but the guy who sits there bitching at them, telling them to NOT have fun, and throwing crap at them is equally selfish.

That's life I guess.

I understand why you see it that way, I really do. And it even makes a certain amount of sense. But to me, it comes down to an analysis:

1. If everyone stands, everyone enjoys the show.
2. If everyone sits, everyone enjoys the show.
3. If everyone stands but one person sits, that one person can't see the band and will have a lousy night.
4. If everyone sits but one person stands, there could be upwards of 5-10 people behind him whose view will be obstructed, ruining their experience. If that person is there with friends? Forget it... five people standing up while everyone is sitting behind them, now they're ruining dozens of peoples' views.

Everyone paid the same amount of money to be there. Nobody has any rights more than anyone else. So, the questions are, is the person in example 4 "allowed" to stand? Of course. Will his night be ruined if he sits? Clearly not. Is he a douchebag for putting his own selfish desires ahead of the people behind him? Yep.

That's why I said go with the flow earlier. If everyone is standing, awesome. But if you're the *only* one standing, just understand that everyone hates you and you're ruining someone else's night - several someones, most likely. If that's okay with you, then fine. Just don't try to convince people that you're some kind of hero for standing up in the back of the venue. (and I'm not addressing you specifically, ED, just talking in the general "you")

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:37 PM

A question for those who defiantly insist on standing when asked to sit:  

When your fellow concert-goers call security and have them ask you to sit down, will you be just as defiant as when security wasn't there?  

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:37 PM)
A question for those who defiantly insist on standing when asked to sit:  

When your fellow concert-goers call security and have them ask you to sit down, will you be just as defiant as when security wasn't there?  

smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif

The security guard told me and my buddy to keep standing.  

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 29 2012, 07:01 PM)
QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 29 2012, 06:43 PM)
Personally, I enjoy sitting down, relaxing, and taking in the music, rather than jumping around and flailing my arms like an asshole. smile.gif

All jokes aside...no offence, but you need to get off your high horse just a bit.

You're seriously calling every person who goes to rock concerts and decides that they are going to stand, oh...and wait for it...have fun air drumming / air guitar and whatnot assholes? Really?  wacko.gif

I was actually saying that if I were to jump around and obstruct peoples' views (not hard to do, being well over 6 feet tall), and was knowingly ruining the show for people trying to sit & enjoy what they paid for, then it would be I who was the asshole.

Was I calling you an asshole? Hardly. Was I actually addressing anybody on this board as "asshole"? Of course not!

My horse is of standard height, so put your tape measure down, please. Thanks. smile.gif

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (beherit @ May 29 2012, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:37 PM)
A question for those who defiantly insist on standing when asked to sit: 

When your fellow concert-goers call security and have them ask you to sit down, will you be just as defiant as when security wasn't there? 

smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif

The security guard told me and my buddy to keep standing.


Thank you for sharing that, but my question was about when security tells you to sit down, and if you'll do it or not.    

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE (beherit @ May 29 2012, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:37 PM)
A question for those who defiantly insist on standing when asked to sit: 

When your fellow concert-goers call security and have them ask you to sit down, will you be just as defiant as when security wasn't there? 

smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif

The security guard told me and my buddy to keep standing.


Thank you for sharing that, but my question was about when security tells you to sit down, and if you'll do it or not.

I'd imagine they'd ask you again, then perhaps tell ya to hit the road if you got too defensive and beligerant(sp). confused13.gif


Edit to add a real answer: Yes. Wouldn't want to get the boot. Not worth the trouble.

Edited by Tarkus406, 29 May 2012 - 07:59 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 29 2012, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 29 2012, 07:01 PM)
QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 29 2012, 06:43 PM)
Personally, I enjoy sitting down, relaxing, and taking in the music, rather than jumping around and flailing my arms like an asshole. smile.gif

All jokes aside...no offence, but you need to get off your high horse just a bit.

You're seriously calling every person who goes to rock concerts and decides that they are going to stand, oh...and wait for it...have fun air drumming / air guitar and whatnot assholes? Really?  wacko.gif

I was actually saying that if I were to jump around and obstruct peoples' views (not hard to do, being well over 6 feet tall), and was knowingly ruining the show for people trying to sit & enjoy what they paid for, then it would be I who was the asshole.

Was I calling you an asshole? Hardly. Was I actually addressing anybody on this board as "asshole"? Of course not!

My horse is of standard height, so put your tape measure down, please. Thanks. smile.gif

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Sorry...like I said before, I wasn't trying to be offensive. You're a cool dude.

Like I mentioned in my story earlier...I've tried hard to adjust to the people around...and I always do. Like I said, those people in the extra row behind us...I extended what I thought was a generous 'olive branch' by offering to switch spots and let them sit in front, and have us behind them where we could stand (being the last row of the section in the Amptheatre), and they could sit. A win-win. But they strictly denied it just out of spite...and then to watch them leave throughout the show was extremely aggravating.

Anyone who knows me, absolutely knows my love for this band. Rush IS what I'm all about. People hear 'Rush', they think of me immediately. I'm a fanboi...I'm a guy who would be at every show if I could make it and afford it! If those people were die-hard fans like me, I would've felt better about the situation. I love my fellow Rush fans...love all you guys. I believe that we should always look out for each other the best we can.

Unfortunately, that day just really soured my experience, and of course my views on these types of debates. Like I said, this was the only situation where I was asked to sit, and I did. I wasn't happy about it, but I did it. I went with the flow.

Anyways, again, hopefully you didn't take offence to my sharp tongue!  trink39.gif  

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 29 2012, 08:05 PM)
QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 29 2012, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 29 2012, 07:01 PM)
QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 29 2012, 06:43 PM)
Personally, I enjoy sitting down, relaxing, and taking in the music, rather than jumping around and flailing my arms like an asshole. smile.gif

All jokes aside...no offence, but you need to get off your high horse just a bit.

You're seriously calling every person who goes to rock concerts and decides that they are going to stand, oh...and wait for it...have fun air drumming / air guitar and whatnot assholes? Really?  wacko.gif

I was actually saying that if I were to jump around and obstruct peoples' views (not hard to do, being well over 6 feet tall), and was knowingly ruining the show for people trying to sit & enjoy what they paid for, then it would be I who was the asshole.

Was I calling you an asshole? Hardly. Was I actually addressing anybody on this board as "asshole"? Of course not!

My horse is of standard height, so put your tape measure down, please. Thanks. smile.gif

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Sorry...like I said before, I wasn't trying to be offensive. You're a cool dude.

Like I mentioned in my story earlier...I've tried hard to adjust to the people around...and I always do. Like I said, those people in the extra row behind us...I extended what I thought was a generous 'olive branch' by offering to switch spots and let them sit in front, and have us behind them where we could stand (being the last row of the section in the Amptheatre), and they could sit. A win-win. But they strictly denied it just out of spite...and then to watch them leave throughout the show was extremely aggravating.

Anyone who knows me, absolutely knows my love for this band. Rush IS what I'm all about. People hear 'Rush', they think of me immediately. I'm a fanboi...I'm a guy who would be at every show if I could make it and afford it! If those people were die-hard fans like me, I would've felt better about the situation. I love my fellow Rush fans...love all you guys. I believe that we should always look out for each other the best we can.

Unfortunately, that day just really soured my experience, and of course my views on these types of debates. Like I said, this was the only situation where I was asked to sit, and I did. I wasn't happy about it, but I did it. I went with the flow.

Anyways, again, hopefully you didn't take offence to my sharp tongue!  trink39.gif

It's cool, dude. I wasn't really offended, I was just wanting to clear it up that I say things such as "like an asshole" often, and am usually implying that what activity I'm referring to in the expression would make other people think I'm an asshole. wacko.gif

I do get it, though. It is a rock concert. If everyone's standing up, I'm standing too. I prefer to sit, but hell, if I can't see, I'm up! No biggie.

It would get a bit tiring if it was for 3 hours straight though. But I always count on songs like Faithless and other non-crowd-pleasers for a break.

(even though I love the non-crowd-pleasers more than the crowd pleasers sometimes! laugh.gif )

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:14 PM

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(even though I love the non-crowd-pleasers more than the crowd pleasers sometimes! laugh.gif )

Ha! Me too...definitely.  1022.gif  

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 29 2012, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:37 PM)
A question for those who defiantly insist on standing when asked to sit: 

When your fellow concert-goers call security and have them ask you to sit down, will you be just as defiant as when security wasn't there? 

smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif


I'd imagine they'd ask you again, then perhaps tell ya to hit the road if you got too defensive and beligerant(sp). confused13.gif


Edit to add a real answer: Yes. Wouldn't want to get the boot. Not worth the trouble.


new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif  Yah, all it takes is one wrong word to a security dick, and you're gone.  Sometimes, I think they hope that you'll get belligerent.    ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif    

  

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:40 PM

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Another stand/sit thread. laugh.gif All I can say is, I get a seat where I am free to do both. An Isle seat. Or the lawn if it's outside. I will not be told to sit as if I were in school. It's a fu***** 2.gif Concert! 1022.gif  2.gif  

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:45 PM

QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE (beherit @ May 29 2012, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:37 PM)
A question for those who defiantly insist on standing when asked to sit: 

When your fellow concert-goers call security and have them ask you to sit down, will you be just as defiant as when security wasn't there? 

smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif

The security guard told me and my buddy to keep standing.


Thank you for sharing that, but my question was about when security tells you to sit down, and if you'll do it or not.

Why would a security guard tell someone at a Rush concert to sit down?

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:54 PM

QUOTE (beherit @ May 29 2012, 07:45 PM)
QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE (beherit @ May 29 2012, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Workaholic Man @ May 29 2012, 07:37 PM)
A question for those who defiantly insist on standing when asked to sit: 

When your fellow concert-goers call security and have them ask you to sit down, will you be just as defiant as when security wasn't there? 

smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif

The security guard told me and my buddy to keep standing.


Thank you for sharing that, but my question was about when security tells you to sit down, and if you'll do it or not.

Why would a security guard tell someone at a Rush concert to sit down?

Because they either hate Rush or couldn't make the police force or both. tongue.gif  

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:57 AM

I'm definitely with the "go with the flow" crowd.  If everyone around me is sitting down, I am not gonna be the only jerk standing the whole time, but fortunately, every time I go to a Rush show, I get good seats and everyone is always standing, so it's usually all good.

The one time I did go against the flow was when I saw Styx in the late 90s and they played Queen of Spades, which shocked me.  I was literally the only person in our section standing for that song, but I didn't care.  I was gonna enjoy that song to the fullest.  cool.gif  




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