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Poll: Is Rush the best? (98 member(s) have cast votes)

Is Rush the best?

  1. Yes (57 votes [57.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.58%

  2. No (42 votes [42.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.42%

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:48 PM

Yes. Only because the only other band that could compare, IMO, is no longer a going concern.  sad.gif




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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:57 PM

No, they're not, and they don't need to be.... no.gif

All that matters is that they are masters at their respective musical instruments.  Masters, virtuosos, whatever descriptor you care to use....they are that.  What makes them great is their work as a band.  They could be the 3 greatest musicians in the History of Mankind, but if they don't work together or compliment each other, then their music will be crap....

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:33 PM

Anyone who votes yes deserves automatic fanboi status. confused13.gif

Rush isn't even the best in Rock...

King Crimson, Yes, VdGG, other top notch prog acts, and countless Jazz fusion groups > Rush in terms of sheer musicianship

But does that really affect my opinion. no.gif

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:00 AM

QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 24 2012, 10:33 PM)
Anyone who votes yes deserves automatic fanboi status. confused13.gif

Rush isn't even the best in Rock...

King Crimson, Yes, VdGG, other top notch prog acts, and countless Jazz fusion groups > Rush in terms of sheer musicianship

But does that really affect my opinion. no.gif

Yeah, the question is about raw talent, if you vote yes you are a fanboy, and I admit to being one but I still didn't vote yes, that's just silly tongue.gif  

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:31 AM

QUOTE (Snaked @ Apr 24 2012, 06:44 AM)
Thats not really a balanced question IMO.

As a 3 piece unit they are probably the most balanced and adept at what they do but individually there are more "talented" on each instrument.

The problem comes in that those with more "talent" are most likely influenced in some way by the members of RUSH.

While Neil is my FAVORITE drummer he is by no means the most talented anymore.. however it's easy to argue he is the most influential drummer in rock history.  Look at any of the top drummers out there, a vast majority of them will cite Neil as being a (or THE) reason they picked up the sticks.

Same goes for Geddy and Alex. Both favorites of mine in their respective roles but there are more technically talented musicians out there. But again, many of those "talented" musicians will likely cite Geddy or Alex as an influence, at least to some degree.
(and even if they dont cite Geddy or Alex they will cite people like John Myung, John Petrucci etc who were very largely influenced by RUSH).


I think RUSH are a rare breed of masters of their craft within the music industry. Both in writing and performing. However, I dont think individually any of them would get nearly the notoriety they do as a unit.


Are they my favorite? Yup.
And at the end of the day thats all that matters, eh?

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The Beatles had something magical with the four of them, something that was impossible for them to capture as solo artists, even though they did occasionally scale those same heights, but for the most part it was that unique combination of musicians that allowed them to be as brilliant as they were.  And the members of The Beatles were nowhere near as talented as the members of Rush, at least in terms of the playing of the individual instruments they play.  In terms of being masters of songwriting and melody, that's a different matter.

So are they each the most talented at their given instruments?  Perhaps not, but each are masters at them.  In the end, it's the magical combination of what the three of them do as a unit that makes them among the most talented.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:41 AM

You have to say no.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Apr 24 2012, 12:35 PM)
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QUOTE (New World Kid @ Apr 24 2012, 12:24 PM)
Talent to me just means raw playing ability. In that case no, not even close. Even out of their era, they weren't technically the best.

If you want technical talent, go play some King Crimson, Mars Volta or Dream Theater.

But Rush I think is the best at fitting creative ideas into a listenable format. I think Rush wants less to do with "showing off" and more to do with "reaching audiences," which I immensely respect.

And Neil could potentially be the best lyricist in rock. But in raw terms of talent and skill, no, they're not even close.

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What they lack in raw talent, they make up for it in terms of Chemistry.... which makes them that more enjoyable for me - especially live.

Exactly...to me, their chemistry is unmatched.  1022.gif

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:40 PM

On pure talent alone, for three guys?  Yes.  I can't see how anyone could think differently.  Bias is a strong element for me here but I'm trying my best to be 100% objective and I can honestly say I've never heard another band do some of the things I've heard Rush do.  They are talented on a level that most musicians never glimpse, let alone dwell in for forty years.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:43 PM

Before anyone throws me into the fanboy fire let me ask you this: how many other bassists, drummers or guitar players are playing like these guys at their age?  

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:15 PM

I voted "yes" because of their additive talents.

1 great instrumentalist
2 compelling and intelligent lyrics
3 Their talent for sonic exploration while maintaining such a strong musical identity
4. live show performance ability

Who else could beat them in all of these categories?  Sure, there are better artists then Rush in any one category, or for or two albums.  

But to do it all, and to keep so many people interested in them for so many years?      

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:39 PM

Rush are probably the most technically proficient of the bands you hear on the radio in a particular day. But there are plenty of musicians with "better" chops. Mangini/Petrucci/Myung of Dream Theater are technically superior to Lee/Lifeson/Peart at their own instruments, but they lack Rush's consistency and succinctness as songwriters.

The only "trio" I can think of that is more technical than Rush is Primus - and they're lacking in the guitar department in terms of pure chops, as LaLonde is more avant garde than technical. Mid-70s King Crimson came close. Planet X would count as well, but they have to bring a bassist on tour. ELP are also close; Palmer and Peart are roughly equal, but Lee has an edge over Lake. Emerson is, of course, the wild card.

Chemistry and songwriting? Rush are undeniably top tier.

Edited by Deckiller, 25 April 2012 - 11:44 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2012 - 12:06 AM

I'm not so sure there even is such a thing as the most talented band. I mean there are and always has been lots of great musicians and songwriters around...

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:49 AM

QUOTE (Snaked @ Apr 24 2012, 08:44 AM)
As a 3 piece unit they are probably the most balanced and adept at what they do but individually there are more "talented" on each instrument.

Probably there's not a band which components are better than Rush ones, while maybe there are single players better than the Three... wink.gif

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:31 AM

QUOTE (Snyder80 @ Apr 25 2012, 08:43 PM)
Before anyone throws me into the fanboy fire let me ask you this: how many other bassists, drummers or guitar players are playing like these guys at their age?

Don't worry about the ones who throw the fanboi epithet around like confetti. Most of them are just envious of the Boyz and jealous that they don't have fans as passionate.  wink.gif  

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:20 AM

Influencial they've got to be way up there but honestly I can't rate them as the most talented band as far as technical prowess goes.


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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 25 2012, 03:31 AM)
QUOTE (Snaked @ Apr 24 2012, 06:44 AM)
Thats not really a balanced question IMO.

As a 3 piece unit they are probably the most balanced and adept at what they do but individually there are more "talented" on each instrument.

The problem comes in that those with more "talent" are most likely influenced in some way by the members of RUSH.

While Neil is my FAVORITE drummer he is by no means the most talented anymore.. however it's easy to argue he is the most influential drummer in rock history.  Look at any of the top drummers out there, a vast majority of them will cite Neil as being a (or THE) reason they picked up the sticks.

Same goes for Geddy and Alex. Both favorites of mine in their respective roles but there are more technically talented musicians out there. But again, many of those "talented" musicians will likely cite Geddy or Alex as an influence, at least to some degree.
(and even if they dont cite Geddy or Alex they will cite people like John Myung, John Petrucci etc who were very largely influenced by RUSH).


I think RUSH are a rare breed of masters of their craft within the music industry. Both in writing and performing. However, I dont think individually any of them would get nearly the notoriety they do as a unit.


Are they my favorite? Yup.
And at the end of the day thats all that matters, eh?

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The Beatles had something magical with the four of them, something that was impossible for them to capture as solo artists, even though they did occasionally scale those same heights, but for the most part it was that unique combination of musicians that allowed them to be as brilliant as they were.  And the members of The Beatles were nowhere near as talented as the members of Rush, at least in terms of the playing of the individual instruments they play.  In terms of being masters of songwriting and melody, that's a different matter.

So are they each the most talented at their given instruments?  Perhaps not, but each are masters at them.  In the end, it's the magical combination of what the three of them do as a unit that makes them among the most talented.

I concur......well said!

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Posted 12 August 2020 - 06:56 AM

Most talented band of all time in any genre? Nope.
But they are among the most talented bands in rock for sure.

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Posted 12 August 2020 - 09:04 AM

who cares? a good band is a good band

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Posted 12 August 2020 - 10:09 AM

A big old yes from me. World's best drummer and best bassist complimented by the world's most underrated guitarist, not to mention as a songwriting team they can best just about anyone who wasn't a Beatle. I'm sorry DT, KC, RTF.... close but no cigar.

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Posted 12 August 2020 - 10:36 AM

Neil, is one of the most talented drummers out there, Geddy is up there with the most talented bassists. I think Alex is more so known for his creativity and accenting riffs than for his skills/talent although his skillset is very diverse. So no, Rush is not #1, but Top 5 at least.




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