Jump to content


Rush Sector Remaster Sets


  • Please log in to reply
117 replies to this topic

#1 capoetc

capoetc

    Restless Young Rushmantic

  • Members
  • 85 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Atlanta

Posted 29 November 2011 - 07:41 AM

Does anyone have anything to report regarding the new Sectors (1, 2, 3) sets from the Rush Mercury label albums?

Just curious if the remasters are significantly better than past remasters.  Price seems a tad high at $49.95 each too.

Sponsored Post

#2 ak2112

ak2112

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 293 posts

Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:48 AM

I do not have them myself, but I've heard there have been issues with the Farewell to Kings DVD-A version of Closer to the Heart and some issues with other tracks here and there.  

Personally, I wont be getting these unless they release the DVD-A versions as stand-alone albums.  I'm VERY disappointed with the bands decision to release these latest remasters in this way.  I think its just another cash grab and BTW, the band DID have a hand in this release.  The whole thing was terribly thought out and from what I understand, they are mastered even louder than the sonically horrible 97 remasters, which I didnt even think was possible.  Yep, I'm passing on this one.  Bad move boys!!

#3 danielmclark

danielmclark

    The Professor

  • Members
  • 4060 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Texas

Posted 30 November 2011 - 10:53 AM

QUOTE (ak2112 @ Nov 30 2011, 12:48 AM)
I do not have them myself, but I've heard there have been issues with the Farewell to Kings DVD-A version of Closer to the Heart and some issues with other tracks here and there.  

Personally, I wont be getting these unless they release the DVD-A versions as stand-alone albums.  I'm VERY disappointed with the bands decision to release these latest remasters in this way.  I think its just another cash grab and BTW, the band DID have a hand in this release.  The whole thing was terribly thought out and from what I understand, they are mastered even louder than the sonically horrible 97 remasters, which I didnt even think was possible.  Yep, I'm passing on this one.  Bad move boys!!

Do you have some links to reviews posted by people that have heard and/or tested them that say the remasters are louder than the 97's?

I'm not being harsh or sarcastic, I'm just wondering because you're the first person I've seen so far that say that the remasters are louder than the 97's.

As for the band having a hand in it, Mercury owns the back catalog. They call the shots. If they band was involved, it was only to make sure the remasters weren't screwed up. But they have zero say in whether or not a compilation is released.

#4 jonboy71

jonboy71

    Long Awaited Froind

  • Members
  • 28 posts

Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:40 PM

QUOTE (danielmclark @ Nov 30 2011, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE (ak2112 @ Nov 30 2011, 12:48 AM)
I do not have them myself, but I've heard there have been issues with the Farewell to Kings DVD-A version of Closer to the Heart and some issues with other tracks here and there. 

Personally, I wont be getting these unless they release the DVD-A versions as stand-alone albums.  I'm VERY disappointed with the bands decision to release these latest remasters in this way.  I think its just another cash grab and BTW, the band DID have a hand in this release.  The whole thing was terribly thought out and from what I understand, they are mastered even louder than the sonically horrible 97 remasters, which I didnt even think was possible.  Yep, I'm passing on this one.  Bad move boys!!

Do you have some links to reviews posted by people that have heard and/or tested them that say the remasters are louder than the 97's?

I'm not being harsh or sarcastic, I'm just wondering because you're the first person I've seen so far that say that the remasters are louder than the 97's.

As for the band having a hand in it, Mercury owns the back catalog. They call the shots. If they band was involved, it was only to make sure the remasters weren't screwed up. But they have zero say in whether or not a compilation is released.

#5 upstateNYfan

upstateNYfan

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 289 posts

Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (ak2112 @ Nov 30 2011, 01:48 AM)
I do not have them myself, but I've heard there have been issues with the Farewell to Kings DVD-A version of Closer to the Heart and some issues with other tracks here and there.  

Personally, I wont be getting these unless they release the DVD-A versions as stand-alone albums.  I'm VERY disappointed with the bands decision to release these latest remasters in this way.  I think its just another cash grab and BTW, the band DID have a hand in this release.  The whole thing was terribly thought out and from what I understand, they are mastered even louder than the sonically horrible 97 remasters, which I didnt even think was possible.  Yep, I'm passing on this one.  Bad move boys!!

Why is it a bad move? They are entitled to sell their music as they wish. If you don't support the decision, simply don't buy it. Sectors do not diminish artistic integrity one iota. Technology allows a lot of marketing opportunities.  

#6 Todem

Todem

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1466 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Parkland, Florida
  • Interests:Playing guitar, writing,recording and performing music, softball, golf, tennis, stocks, spending as much time as I can with my wife and son.

Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:58 PM

I went ahead and bought the entire set. I love the packaging, it is a nice looking box-set and I am sure the sound quality is very strong.

The 5.1 of Signals has my toes tingling.

I like to collect all of Rush's releases....even though I own all the US Atomic, 97 remasters, Atlantic remasters and all the Mobile Fidelity gold discs and vinyl I still wanted to get this.

I don't think there is anything wrong in it.

I was very pleased with the Moving Pictures  hi res remaster. In fact I loved it.

So it is only natural I would want FBN, AFTK and Signals in this same format. And I get fresh newly remastered versions of Rush's best work. Let's not fool ourselves...Sectors 2 and 3 is the definitive Rush.

Really pumped to get this today as my Amazon box should be on my doorstep when I get home.

I will chime back in once I give every sector a full listen front to back as well as the Hi Res 5.1 copies.

Edited by Todem, 30 November 2011 - 12:59 PM.


#7 Ron2112

Ron2112

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 299 posts
  • Location:Fairfax Station, VA

Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE (ak2112 @ Nov 30 2011, 01:48 AM)
from what I understand, they are mastered even louder than the sonically horrible 97 remasters, which I didnt even think was possible.  

You heard wrong.  If anything, the FBN remaster is a bit quieter than the '97 remaster.

I got Sector 1 yesterday, and there is indeed discernable imporovement with this new batch.  It's as if a layer of murk has been wiped away.  The drums in particular sound crisper, but there is also better separation on the bass end.  Not a huge, dramatic difference, but in a side-by-side, I definitely hear improvement here.

Peace,
Ron

#8 Todem

Todem

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1466 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Parkland, Florida
  • Interests:Playing guitar, writing,recording and performing music, softball, golf, tennis, stocks, spending as much time as I can with my wife and son.

Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:37 PM

A lot of the feedback I have seen has been the Signals remaster and 5.1 is superb.

Also that Geddy's bass and Neils drums are crisper. And Alex's guitars are even better.

I am really looking forward to Sectors 2 and three as well as 2112.

#9 upstateNYfan

upstateNYfan

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 289 posts

Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:41 PM

Thinking I should order them today. trink38.gif  

#10 drbirdsong

drbirdsong

    Bubba Fett

  • Members *
  • 4332 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Holy City of Nashville, Tennessee

Posted 30 November 2011 - 04:30 PM

First of all the packaging is A+.  Reproducing 12 inch album art as 5 inch CD art is a good idea, but only if you have a magnifying glass.  The stroke of genius here is the included booklet with liner notes, lyrics and new photographs.  The design of the boxes and how they fit together is just excellent.  I have the work from the first fifteen years/albums in one place.  I don't think I'll ever need to buy them again.  These along with the gold CDs I have are enough.

As for the sound... I don't think I have ever enjoyed the debut album as much as I did today.  Finding My Way starts with the guitar waaaaaaaaay over to the left and then it pans to the middle and fills up the right side and I just got a chill like I was a teenager.  Before And After has never sounded better.  I have to agree with the person who said that it sounds like a sheen of gauze has been wiped off.  The bass break in Working Man sounds like you are standing next to Geddy.  My 97 remasters are already gone and I got the other two sets.

As for the problems with Fly By Night... If you read the reviews on Amazon.com you will notice that some folks don't have the dropout problem.  I must be one of the lucky ones or maybe it is my CD player, but it plays straight through with no problems at all.  By-Tor And The Snow Dog is just stunning.  I can't wait to get to All The World's A Stage.

I'll be listening to the whole thing over the next few days and if it is as good as the first two albums I may attain a higher state of consciousness.

Warmer sound, fatter bass, crisper drums.  I think that the improved sound with the awesome packaging makes this set well worth it.  I honestly didn't think that Mercury would ever do something this good.  I take back all my bitching.

Applying for renewed fanboy status and don't care who knows it.

1022.gif  1022.gif  2.gif  1022.gif  1022.gif  

#11 subdivisor

subdivisor

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 217 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Pennsylvania

Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:32 PM

im almost through sector 3...the sound is really clean with lots of seperation...all the effects (neil's triggers, bass pedals, etc...) are much more up front, there are definetly some sounds that i am hearing for the first time that were pushed back on the originals...i feel like i can really hear the boys finesse with thier instruments...also, a lot more bottom end on ASOH, PW, and HYF...i have not got to signals yet and im in the process of moving so my 5.1 system is in boxes ...cant wait for sectors 1 and 2 for xmas 1022.gif 2.gif  


#12 Todem

Todem

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1466 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Parkland, Florida
  • Interests:Playing guitar, writing,recording and performing music, softball, golf, tennis, stocks, spending as much time as I can with my wife and son.

Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:13 PM

As expected they arrived today.
The first thing I did was pop in Signals in 5.1


Jaw dropping.


The only tune I did not like and it is like hearing a new mix was The Weapon. I prefer the Mofi mix much more.

Alex's guitars on the 5.1 are insane. You will hear things you never heard before. Also alternate vocal takes abound.

Really a new album in 5.1.

It was worth the price alone.

Tomorrow I will dig into various albums in my car and report back. I have a high end Bose in the car.

#13 MCM

MCM

    Rushaholic

  • Members
  • 1601 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Pittsburgh, PA

Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:39 PM

All this talk makes me want to jump right over to Amazon and buy these up.  Are they really that much better or is it the excitement of new stuff talking?  


(remember, I want them anyways, I will eventually buy them, just looking for a little extra push to drop the cash)  

#14 Ron2112

Ron2112

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 299 posts
  • Location:Fairfax Station, VA

Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:30 PM

QUOTE (MCM @ Nov 30 2011, 08:39 PM)
All this talk makes me want to jump right over to Amazon and buy these up.  Are they really that much better or is it the excitement of new stuff talking?  


(remember, I want them anyways, I will eventually buy them, just looking for a little extra push to drop the cash)

The CDs are a definite improvement.  Whether it's enough of an improvement to justify ~ $9 per disc is up to you.  

To me, the 5.1 versions themselves are worth the price.  The better-sounding albums are gravy.

Peace,
Ron

#15 danielmclark

danielmclark

    The Professor

  • Members
  • 4060 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Texas

Posted 01 December 2011 - 02:31 PM

QUOTE (Ron2112 @ Dec 1 2011, 12:30 PM)
The CDs are a definite improvement.  Whether it's enough of an improvement to justify ~ $9 per disc is up to you.

That's the big question, isn't it? If I had a little more disposable income right now, I'd buy all three in a heartbeat. As much as some people are put off by having to pay about $50 per sector, let's remember that it works about to about $9-10 per album, and that's dirt cheap these days. The only way you get better for a physical CD is buying used - and these are brand new with A+ packaging and they've just been remastered with 3 of them in 5.1... they could probably justify selling them for $75-80 each, to be honest.

There are some stores that sell the single CDs (of the previously released stuff, I mean) for $15 or more. From a strictly dollars-and-cents standpoint, the box sets are a good deal, IMO.

#16 tjtull

tjtull

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1138 posts
  • Location:St. Louis, MO

Posted 01 December 2011 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (danielmclark @ Dec 1 2011, 02:31 PM)
QUOTE (Ron2112 @ Dec 1 2011, 12:30 PM)
The CDs are a definite improvement.  Whether it's enough of an improvement to justify ~ $9 per disc is up to you.

That's the big question, isn't it? If I had a little more disposable income right now, I'd buy all three in a heartbeat. As much as some people are put off by having to pay about $50 per sector, let's remember that it works about to about $9-10 per album, and that's dirt cheap these days. The only way you get better for a physical CD is buying used - and these are brand new with A+ packaging and they've just been remastered with 3 of them in 5.1... they could probably justify selling them for $75-80 each, to be honest.

There are some stores that sell the single CDs (of the previously released stuff, I mean) for $15 or more. From a strictly dollars-and-cents standpoint, the box sets are a good deal, IMO.

Sure, they are a great buy...if you don't already own the original CDs, the MFSL gold discs, and the 97 remasters.

#17 Ron2112

Ron2112

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 299 posts
  • Location:Fairfax Station, VA

Posted 01 December 2011 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE (tjtull @ Dec 1 2011, 02:46 PM)
Sure, they are a great buy...if you don't already own the original CDs, the MFSL gold discs, and the 97 remasters.

Or even if you do.  Throw in the original vinyl and cassette releases in my case.

But it's Rush....I still want the best possible sounding release of each record.

Peace,
Ron

#18 tjtull

tjtull

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1138 posts
  • Location:St. Louis, MO

Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE (Ron2112 @ Dec 1 2011, 03:51 PM)
QUOTE (tjtull @ Dec 1 2011, 02:46 PM)
Sure, they are a great buy...if you don't already own the original CDs, the MFSL gold discs, and the 97 remasters.

Or even if you do.  Throw in the original vinyl and cassette releases in my case.

But it's Rush....I still want the best possible sounding release of each record.

Peace,
Ron

I suppose.  As for me, the only real draw are the 5.1 discs.  I'd love to have them!  Now, if they had one for each album, I'd buy the sets...no question.

#19 danielmclark

danielmclark

    The Professor

  • Members
  • 4060 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Texas

Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (tjtull @ Dec 1 2011, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ Dec 1 2011, 02:31 PM)
QUOTE (Ron2112 @ Dec 1 2011, 12:30 PM)
The CDs are a definite improvement.  Whether it's enough of an improvement to justify ~ $9 per disc is up to you.

That's the big question, isn't it? If I had a little more disposable income right now, I'd buy all three in a heartbeat. As much as some people are put off by having to pay about $50 per sector, let's remember that it works about to about $9-10 per album, and that's dirt cheap these days. The only way you get better for a physical CD is buying used - and these are brand new with A+ packaging and they've just been remastered with 3 of them in 5.1... they could probably justify selling them for $75-80 each, to be honest.

There are some stores that sell the single CDs (of the previously released stuff, I mean) for $15 or more. From a strictly dollars-and-cents standpoint, the box sets are a good deal, IMO.

Sure, they are a great buy...if you don't already own the original CDs, the MFSL gold discs, and the 97 remasters.

That's a factor, absolutely.

#20 tjtull

tjtull

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1138 posts
  • Location:St. Louis, MO

Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (danielmclark @ Dec 1 2011, 04:21 PM)
QUOTE (tjtull @ Dec 1 2011, 01:46 PM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ Dec 1 2011, 02:31 PM)
QUOTE (Ron2112 @ Dec 1 2011, 12:30 PM)
The CDs are a definite improvement.  Whether it's enough of an improvement to justify ~ $9 per disc is up to you.

That's the big question, isn't it? If I had a little more disposable income right now, I'd buy all three in a heartbeat. As much as some people are put off by having to pay about $50 per sector, let's remember that it works about to about $9-10 per album, and that's dirt cheap these days. The only way you get better for a physical CD is buying used - and these are brand new with A+ packaging and they've just been remastered with 3 of them in 5.1... they could probably justify selling them for $75-80 each, to be honest.

There are some stores that sell the single CDs (of the previously released stuff, I mean) for $15 or more. From a strictly dollars-and-cents standpoint, the box sets are a good deal, IMO.

Sure, they are a great buy...if you don't already own the original CDs, the MFSL gold discs, and the 97 remasters.

That's a factor, absolutely.

Plus, my wife would freaking kill me if she saw, yet another, set of RUSH CDs come in the mail wink.gif




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users