CooJoe Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 How do ya'll interperet the finale of 2112 (Attention all planets f the solar federation...) I could see several ways to do it. The way I like to think of it is what the protagonist saw in his dream was real, and they came back "To claim the home where they belong Home to tear the Temples down... Home to Change" The upbeat sorta music seems to indicate something good. Possibaly it was some federation thing to reinstate their control. Or the most likely explanation is the boys just wanted an excuse to use the cool robotic voice. Sorry if this has been already brought up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfuentes Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 I interpret it exactly the way you've described it as. And yes, Neil's "Robotic" voice at the end of it is very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyt Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 sounds to me like the priests squashed the protagonist pretty good and that this was 'their song' we have assumed control! come to think of it; looking at those qoutes makes me really appreciate the dream: it has such clarity! but then he's so depressed (reciting the lyrics and music ). it's as if he sobered up and then...just goes in for the kill [/]and then everything takes over[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooJoe Posted April 6, 2005 Author Share Posted April 6, 2005 I just like the Irony of the way I saw it first. After the protagonist kills himself, the dream comes true. Then again it could be the priests song too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sawyer Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Well I always thought of it as an epilog, the final phase of transition. Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation We have assumed control. We have assumed control. We have assumed control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyt Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 QUOTE (CooJoe @ Apr 5 2005, 10:36 PM) After the protagonist kills himself, the dream comes true. what a schmuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyt Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 QUOTE (pinkfloyd1973 @ Apr 5 2005, 10:36 PM) Well I always thought of it as an epilog, the final phase of transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Porschetta Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 I always thought he said, "We have consumed a troll." Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sawyer Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 QUOTE (Red Porschetta @ Apr 5 2005, 08:44 PM) I always thought he said, "We have consumed a troll." Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyt Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 yeah they're all gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Quigley_Moog Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 I think the Solar Federation killed him and that is why they sing "we have assumed control" at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Man Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 I think CooJoe got it right in his first post. The Elder race have come back & re-taken control of their world. They left the planet long ago The elder race still learn and grow Their power grows with purpose strong To claim the home where they belong Home to tear the Temples down... Home to change! The Elder race are announcing to the Solar Federation: Attention All Planets of the Solar Feceration, We have assumed control... The idea that the priests won doesn't make sense. They are in charge all thru the song, they are the Federation. If they won in the end why would they be announcing "Attention All Planets of the Solar Fedeartion, We have assumed control"? They already have control, are they just reminding themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostGirl Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkd Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Apr 6 2005, 11:36 AM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanzo Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 what! is neils voice really in this......where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPeartFan2112 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 QUOTE (Digital Man @ Apr 6 2005, 11:06 AM) I think CooJoe got it right in his first post. The Elder race have come back & re-taken control of their world. They left the planet long ago The elder race still learn and grow Their power grows with purpose strong To claim the home where they belong Home to tear the Temples down... Home to change! The Elder race are announcing to the Solar Federation: Attention All Planets of the Solar Feceration, We have assumed control... The idea that the priests won doesn't make sense. They are in charge all thru the song, they are the Federation. If they won in the end why would they be announcing "Attention All Planets of the Solar Fedeartion, We have assumed control"? They already have control, are they just reminding themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushGuru Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 I think Digital Man has hit the nail right on the head. That was always my interpretation and I was speeding (I almost said "rushing" ) through the replys so I could post what Dig posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyt Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 QUOTE (Digital Man @ Apr 6 2005, 11:06 AM) I think CooJoe got it right in his first post. The Elder race have come back & re-taken control of their world. They left the planet long ago The elder race still learn and grow Their power grows with purpose strong To claim the home where they belong Home to tear the Temples down... Home to change! The Elder race are announcing to the Solar Federation: Attention All Planets of the Solar Feceration, We have assumed control... The idea that the priests won doesn't make sense. They are in charge all thru the song, they are the Federation. If they won in the end why would they be announcing "Attention All Planets of the Solar Fedeartion, We have assumed control"? They already have control, are they just reminding themselves? it's all a dream with the elder race in control. dude wakes up, gets a reality check, checks out, and then the priests remind everyone what's up: no one plays guitar in our galaxy. if the elder race won 2112 would end with some more acoustic guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES-335 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 QUOTE (Red Porschetta @ Apr 5 2005, 10:44 PM) I always thought he said, "We have consumed a troll." Am I wrong? BURP ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES-335 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Concerning the question, I agree with Coojoe and DM. That is what I have though for decades. If it was different, I would have experienced all those chill bumps throughout the years for the wrong reason ... and would ask for them back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPeartFan2112 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 QUOTE (ES-335 @ Apr 10 2005, 06:02 PM) QUOTE (Red Porschetta @ Apr 5 2005, 10:44 PM) I always thought he said, "We have consumed a troll." Am I wrong? BURP ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arndrake Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 QUOTE (ES-335 @ Apr 10 2005, 06:02 PM)QUOTE (Red Porschetta @ Apr 5 2005, 10:44 PM) I always thought he said, "We have consumed a troll." Am I wrong? BURP ... It's still cracking me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooJoe Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 QUOTE (daveyt @ Apr 10 2005, 05:17 PM) QUOTE (Digital Man @ Apr 6 2005, 11:06 AM) I think CooJoe got it right in his first post. The Elder race have come back & re-taken control of their world. They left the planet long ago The elder race still learn and grow Their power grows with purpose strong To claim the home where they belong Home to tear the Temples down... Home to change! The Elder race are announcing to the Solar Federation: Attention All Planets of the Solar Feceration, We have assumed control... The idea that the priests won doesn't make sense. They are in charge all thru the song, they are the Federation. If they won in the end why would they be announcing "Attention All Planets of the Solar Fedeartion, We have assumed control"? They already have control, are they just reminding themselves? it's all a dream with the elder race in control. dude wakes up, gets a reality check, checks out, and then the priests remind everyone what's up: no one plays guitar in our galaxy. if the elder race won 2112 would end with some more acoustic guitar. There's was guitar (electric) in the finale. Another thing, the voice makes it sound like it's being broadcasted (possibly from an Elder Race vessel) Also the music would likely sound more sinister if it was the federation winning. Then again it's a song open to interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyt Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 i don't think it's open to interpretation because the dude kills himself because he realizes the elders aren't coming back; it is a dream. i know that sounds harsh but if he killed himsef for nothing that would really suck. perhaps neil tries the happy ending with hemispheres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyt Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 QUOTE (CooJoe @ Apr 10 2005, 09:35 PM) Also the music would likely sound more sinister if it was the federation winning. this is a good point to bring up because the music, if it were brought to theatre, is a great musical score for a nice battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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